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1291265900 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1291265904 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1291278847 M * arekm Bertl_zZ: seems to be working but kbuild forced credentials debugging to be off in my config, so I would have to rebuild again to get creds debugging active ;/
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1291281782 M * ncopa hi
1291281795 M * ncopa anyone running a desktop guest in vserver?
1291282329 M * arekm Bertl_zZ: do you need test with creds debugging, too?
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1291289144 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1291289148 M * Bertl morning folks!
1291289168 M * Bertl arekm: it would be good to know that we do not leak credentials 
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1291291512 M * Bertl arekm: also it would be nice to enable Linux-VServer debugging and more specifically the space debugging, bit #10
1291291595 M * Bertl I think we might still have cases which crash the host like: not setting a space (cred), but entering it with CLONE_NEWUSER, which will lead to tasks with NULL creds ... and I doubt the kernel handles that well atm
1291291667 M * Bertl but it is good to know that it actually fixes the issue for you :)
1291293687 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: what is your opinion on the second cred delta?
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1291302537 M * disposable i have an ubuntu host on which i want to create an ubuntu guest (because of LTS). when i use "newvserver --dist lucid ....", it tells me it only knows debian releases. how do i create an ubuntu one? /usr/share/debootstrap contains scripts for ubuntu releases but i've no idea what to do with those. 
1291302730 M * ghislain newvserver ? don't know this command. command is vserver build.... no?
1291302843 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-166-127-67.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1291302843 J * tolkor ~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu
1291302862 M * disposable ghislain: it's the same thing, but the question was about ubuntu guests.
1291302953 M * ghislain hum did you try what is there: http://linux-vserver.org/Installing_Ubuntu_on_Debian
1291302957 M * ghislain perhaps it can help
1291303027 M * disposable ghislain: thanks, i've somehow missed that
1291303055 M * ghislain daniel: i think i allready  asked this but seems i lost the answer :( how can i copy a file from the host to a guest partition mounted by the guest fstab (so that you do not see in the host)
1291303072 M * ghislain disposable: hope that solves your issue
1291303075 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace
1291303110 M * ghislain wwith -s because -e do not work i guess ?
1291303135 M * daniel_hozac no
1291303137 M * daniel_hozac with -e
1291303215 M * ghislain oh yes it work silly me had a typo in the path..tsss
1291303221 M * ghislain thanks again daniel
1291303559 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: did I miss an answer from you or did you just not get around checking the patch?
1291303634 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: looks good to me.
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1291304161 M * Bertl okay, what do you think about cred/real_cred = NULL
1291304190 M * Bertl should we prevent that by simply checking before assigning or should we simply set defaults at creation time?
1291304212 M * daniel_hozac creating defaults seems like a maintenance nightmare.
1291304254 M * daniel_hozac unless there is something like init_cred that we can copy from and create a namespace with.
1291304295 M * Bertl I was more thinking of simply copying the ones from the context creating process, but yeah, keeps an unnecessary reference around
1291304586 M * daniel_hozac hmm.
1291304605 M * daniel_hozac i guess that works.
1291304623 M * daniel_hozac the reference would be replaced as soon as vc_set_space is called.
1291304656 M * Bertl correct, unless util-vserver doesn't use CLONE_NEWUSER for whatever reason
1291304670 M * Bertl (i.e. old tools, etc)
1291304690 M * daniel_hozac right
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1291309669 M * arekm Bertl: ok, do you know where debug credentials puts any info? debugfs?
1291309941 M * Bertl it basically causes all kind of panic/BUG_ON() invarious places if something is wrong
1291309970 M * Bertl and some kernel printk()s are added, which should show up in dmesg (with debugging enabled)
1291310021 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1291310048 M * arekm nothing bad in dmesg then
1291310368 M * Bertl did you boot with 'debug' or set the log level high enough?
1291310623 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1291311208 M * arekm Bertl: no
1291311294 M * arekm hope that dmesg -n 8 will be enough
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1291311699 M * Bertl should do the trick ...
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1291326160 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org
1291326201 M * arekm Bertl: installed on a bit more busy server, will see what happens
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