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1290997511 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1290997517 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1291022639 M * harobed hi, ben green is here ?
1291022759 M * harobed some help about « http://repo.psand.net/ lenny main" debian repository : util-vserver-basic-debian package error => "/var/lib/vservers/.: Function not implemented" » (http://bit.ly/i7MstW) ?
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1291025041 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr
1291025876 M * BenG morning
1291025893 M * BenG I just found a new kernel config bit! VSERVER_WARN_DEVPTS
1291025935 M * BenG what's that about then?
1291025958 M * BenG well, I'm saying yes for this build
1291026896 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1291026901 M * Bertl morning folks!
1291026983 M * Bertl BenG: did you read the help text?
1291027013 M * BenG ah, no, where would that be (excuse ignorance)
1291027016 M * BenG ?
1291027040 M * Bertl how did you configure the kernel?
1291027062 M * BenG make config
1291027082 M * BenG I'll do a make menuconfig to see the help?
1291027125 M * Bertl with make config simply press '?' when the option is prompted
1291027157 M * BenG somehow I knew I'd end up feeling a bit stupid
1291027174 M * BenG okay, will do
1291027201 M * Bertl same for make menuconfig, not sure about the x11 version
1291027816 M * Chlorek make gconfig works as well
1291027839 M * Chlorek xconfig don't, because it depends on qt3
1291027847 M * Chlorek (not in my system)
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1291035742 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1291038994 M * Mr_Smoke make menuconfig is still my favorit
1291039005 M * Mr_Smoke favorite*, but that's because I rarely use remote X
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1291043147 M * mnemoc make menuconfig has the advantage it works on X-less remote servers :)
1291043168 M * Mr_Smoke That's the idea
1291043173 M * Mr_Smoke And it's not as painful as make config
1291043187 M * mnemoc it even has a search feature these days
1291043195 M * Mr_Smoke Isn't it great :)
1291043200 M * mnemoc =)
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1291054296 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1291054299 M * Bertl back now ...
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1291058138 M * BenG_ evening
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1291058163 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1291058170 M * BenG I'll try that one again
1291058173 M * BenG evening
1291058204 M * BenG I really want to be able to build util-vserver packages for Debian
1291058254 M * BenG right, here goes...
1291058284 M * Bertl shouldn't really be too hard ...
1291058330 J * sladen ~paul@starsky.19inch.net
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1291058539 M * BenG well compiling is going okay
1291058624 M * BenG oh, it worked
1291058653 M * BenG ah, no it didn't it's that same old problem, packages with no contents
1291058714 M * Bertl check the irc logs, daniel_hozac had a discussion with somebody how to fix that
1291058722 M * Bertl (seems to be a debian issue)
1291059048 M * BenG yes, looking through the mail logs too, I remember a posting
1291060050 M * BenG okay I found the instructions which work
1291060191 M * daniel_hozac what's that?
1291060211 M * BenG getting util-vserver packaged in Debian Lenny
1291060270 M * daniel_hozac yes. but what "makes it work"?
1291060331 M * BenG building it manually and running checkinstall
1291060340 M * BenG with some provided parameters
1291060345 M * daniel_hozac that's... not a package.
1291060366 M * BenG -rw-r--r--  1 root root 758K 2010-11-29 19:49 util-vserver_0.30.216-pre2925-1_amd64.deb
1291060370 M * BenG looks like one to me
1291060394 M * daniel_hozac that's a tarball disguised as a package.
1291060416 M * BenG fair dos
1291060426 M * BenG I'd like to build package
1291060555 M * BenG so any tips or pointers would be greatly appreciated
1291060835 J * csx ~jprexler@217.116.179.162
1291060847 M * BenG so daniel_hozac, are you aware that it doesn't work and have a fix, or not?
1291060997 M * csx hello
1291061003 M * Bertl hi
1291061214 M * csx maybe someone can help: i try to monitor a vserver host with zabbix. in zabbix you can define remote commands to retrieve values from the server (like grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo | head -n 1 | cut -c 12- | awk '{ sum += $1 } END { print sum }'); if i try to run vserver-stat i get a "can not change context: migrate kernel feature missing and 'compat' API disabled: Function not implemented" (googled for it, but i havn't really understand what it mean)
1291061274 M * Bertl do you get that when you run 'vserver-stat' as root on the host as well?
1291061294 M * csx no, as root everything work fine
1291061314 M * Bertl then I presume zabbix is executing the command as different user
1291061325 M * Bertl (or with less capabilities)
1291061335 M * csx but zabbix uses an own user without a shell for it.
1291061337 M * csx ^^
1291061346 M * Bertl well, there you go
1291061384 M * csx but that does not solve my problem :) want to get info about the vservers running on the machine, but i can't run the monitoring agent as root
1291061406 M * Bertl no, but you can, for example, make vserver-stat suid root
1291061427 M * Bertl but I would not use vserver-stat for monitoring
1291061459 M * Bertl you can get more information via /proc/virt*/*
1291061512 M * csx i wanted to use a command like "vserver v-servername exec bash -c "df -h | grep /dev | awk '{ print \$2 }'"" but i will try the /proc/virt right now
1291061540 M * Bertl well, if you want to enter a guest, you need to be root
1291061669 M * Chlorek use your command with sudo
1291061738 M * BenG I've looked through the past 30 days of IRC logs and can't find any help with this compile
1291061755 M * BenG there's a suggestion about adding a line to the debian/rules
1291061772 M * BenG but it's already there in pre2925
1291061867 M * csx thank you very much bertl, will use the /proc/virt... for basic monitoring, but i will need access to the vservers (just want to install the monitoring agent on the host and not on each virtual server), so i will try it with the suid 
1291062127 M * csx bertl: thank you :) works like charm...
1291062133 M * Bertl well, the question is for what information (regarding monitoring) you'll need to enter a guest?
1291062178 M * csx mainly for diskspace
1291062223 M * Bertl you can query that with vdlimit without entering a guest
1291062226 M * csx of course i can access lvm from outside, but i can't access the /tmp partition from outside (or at least i don't know how)
1291062255 M * Bertl tmp partition is actually a little trickier
1291062277 M * Bertl but you could get that from the guest namespace without actually entering the guest
1291062408 M * daniel_hozac BenG: works fine for me, but i don't use lenny.
1291062426 M * BenG what are you using daniel_hozac ?
1291062433 M * daniel_hozac squeeze
1291062451 A * BenG considers squeeze
1291062488 M * BenG would you be interested in fixing it for Lenny?
1291062496 M * BenG I have no idea what I could do to help sadly
1291062498 M * daniel_hozac patches are always accepted.
1291062518 M * BenG :)
1291062607 M * BenG so it's either buckle down and do some more learning about debian packaging
1291062625 M * BenG or accept the future slightly earlier than anticipated
1291062656 M * BenG Lenny is stable currently though
1291062678 M * daniel_hozac squeeze is frozen to become stable i thought
1291062684 M * daniel_hozac so lenny is almost-oldstable
1291062710 M * BenG "on it's way out" for sure
1291062727 M * BenG but could be another six months until squeeze
1291062730 M * csx Bertl: will investigate the possible solutions tomorrow. thank you for your help.
1291062767 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1291062805 M * BenG okay, you talked me into it daniel_hozac, I'm moving to squeeze
1291062822 M * daniel_hozac god speed
1291063299 M * csx good night
1291063310 P * csx 
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