1287532980 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1287535262 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1287535906 J * Piet ~Piet__@82VAABVFT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1287539058 Q * urbie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1287539370 J * urbee urbee@93-103-199-233.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net 1287539553 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1287540648 Q * kaemka Quit: Leaving 1287540730 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-25-19-139.client.mchsi.com 1287541938 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.167.7 1287545745 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-162-139.pools.arcor-ip.net 1287547601 Q * petzsch Read error: Connection reset by peer 1287553620 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no 1287555347 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1287555756 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1287556015 J * Mirc- el3eed-bac@188.247.73.102 1287556027 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1287556585 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1287556588 M * Bertl morning folks! 1287556590 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@213.238.45.2 1287556656 M * fback hello Bertl :) 1287556824 M * hijacker morning 1287556856 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1287557544 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1287557548 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1287558737 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1287559395 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-162-139.pools.arcor-ip.net 1287560154 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1287560280 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1287561526 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1287561808 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.2.94 1287562000 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1287562021 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vault08.rosehosting.com 1287563208 J * alpha_one_x86 ~kvirc@161.30.17.95.dynamic.jazztel.es 1287563273 M * alpha_one_x86 Hello, 2.6.35-25 seam fix the CVE-2010-3904 can you update vserver? Who I need contact to update too grsec patch + vserver? 1287563385 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.35.7 is the latest... 1287563443 M * daniel_hozac so i don't know where you got 2.6.35-25 from. the future? 1287563560 M * fback daniel_hozac: 2+5 is 7, so... ;) 1287563666 M * alpha_one_x86 2.6.-32--25 1287563674 M * alpha_one_x86 look at the web... 1287563692 M * alpha_one_x86 but in the official website, it's 2.6.32-24 only 1287563704 M * fback alpha_one_x86: Hello, 2.6.35-25 seam 1287563725 M * alpha_one_x86 mistake of write... sorry 1287563726 M * fback 32 or 35 then? 1287563729 M * alpha_one_x86 32 1287563821 M * alpha_one_x86 Then, I show that's I need manual patch of 2.6.32-24 + vserver + grsec, ask to who to make grsec + vserver patch 1287563823 M * alpha_one_x86 ? 1287564043 M * daniel_hozac do the current patches not work? 1287564126 M * alpha_one_x86 I see the patch vs2.3.0.36.29.6 but the patch vs2.3.0.36.29.6-grsec2.2.0-20100926 seam be for 2.6.32.22 not 2.6.32.24, do you think I can try it? 1287564187 M * daniel_hozac yes 1287564192 M * daniel_hozac most of the time, they just work. 1287564261 M * alpha_one_x86 ok, thanks for your time ;), bye 1287564263 Q * alpha_one_x86 Quit: KVIrc Equilibrium 4.1.1, revision: 5000, sources date: 20100905, built on: 2010-09-23 09:33:17 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ 1287564643 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1287564653 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1287564962 Q * Mirc- autokilled: Spamming. 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(2010-10-20 08:56:02) 1287564979 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1287565384 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1287565826 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1287567499 P * kir Leaving. 1287567822 J * thierryp ~thierry@92.90.17.1 1287567954 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1287569484 Q * thierryp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1287569528 J * thierryp ~thierry@92.90.21.5 1287570668 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1287572336 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1287572954 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1287576306 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1287576527 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.167.172.17 1287578723 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1287579511 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1287579777 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1287579783 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1287579846 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1287580619 J * thierryp ~thierry@80.125.173.129 1287580902 J * thierryp_ ~thierry@80.125.173.129 1287580903 Q * thierryp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1287581062 J * thierryp ~thierry@80.125.173.129 1287581069 Q * thierryp_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1287581507 J * click click@ti0127a340-0059.bb.online.no 1287581551 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1287581700 M * urbee Bertl_oO around? 1287582011 Q * FloodServ synthon.oftc.net services.oftc.net 1287582417 J * MrTV ~timo@kl-5-133.natpat.fh-kl.de 1287582466 M * MrTV hi all 1287582513 M * ghislain hi 1287582572 M * MrTV i am searching for an answer :) 1287582598 M * ghislain you need a question for that 1287582640 M * MrTV is anyone here who every tried process accounting within a context? 1287582673 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1287582746 M * MrTV i mean i activated sar in a cron job and i am getting these annoying kern log messages 1287582754 M * MrTV kernel: [1098411.268881] vxW: [�sadc�,11110:#40005|40005|40005] did lookup hidden ffff81006e411a08[#0,4026531859] �/proc� 1287582759 M * MrTV etc 1287582799 M * MrTV i 'd like to know if i can safely ignore those and put up a ignore rule in my logcheck 1287582862 M * MrTV what is more, i find that putting a special character into log files makes it hard to setup a regex for it 1287582975 M * ghislain this happen if a process is reading a file that the vserver system hide 1287583006 M * ghislain so this happen for console and some /proc sub system this is quite normal that sar tries to access those 1287583012 M * ghislain so the warning are ok 1287583023 M * MrTV i know, but i would like to shut off those warnings 1287583058 M * ghislain the only way is to prevent sar to look to things it should not look into but seems very low that this configuration exist in this utility 1287583062 M * MrTV if they are harmless, is unnecessary noise 1287583083 M * ghislain i had the same issue for zabbix monitoring, i had modify the source code so it stop doing that 1287583089 M * ghislain yes i know 1287583120 M * ghislain but how can vserver know wich process do nasty thing or just normal thing they should not because they are in a virtual environement 1287583136 M * ghislain so you get the warning anyway until you can correct the sar behavior 1287583152 M * ghislain i am not sure sar can work in vserver land correctly 1287583196 M * MrTV hm, ok. thats another question 1287583214 M * ghislain perhaps you can configure it to ignore the things that triggers the warning so it just not tries to probe them 1287583255 M * MrTV i think sar is only looking into /proc 1287583313 M * ghislain yes but /proc is okay for the proc of the vserver guest, it just is an issue when looking at system level /proc/ entry that are protected by vserver 1287583357 M * ghislain you have the name of the /proc file it tries to look at ? 1287583456 M * MrTV you mean the hosts files in /proc are also visible in the guests /proc dir? 1287583489 M * ghislain some yes but not all if i remember 1287583524 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1287583541 M * ghislain for exmeple /proc/cpuinfo is 1287583551 M * MrTV hm, and those which are visible too, are probably also those who should be accessed by sar i assume 1287583618 M * ghislain i assume he tries also one that is not and then trigger the warning, the funny thing is finding which one and try to configure sar accordingly 1287583666 M * ghislain for me i have the name it tries to acces in the logs: did lookup hidden proc:ffff880119f897c8[#0,4026531853] ▒/proc/virtual▒. 1287583671 M * ghislain here /proc/virtual 1287583679 M * ghislain your log message does not ? 1287583805 M * MrTV only "vxW blabla did lookup hidden bla bla <>" 1287583825 M * MrTV i can't send the correct character arround the /proc string 1287583843 M * MrTV that was my other issue for the regex in logcheck 1287583891 M * MrTV sometimes i get this 1287583899 M * MrTV kernel: [1684285.296194] vxW: [»ps«,10171:#1|0|0] did lookup hidden ffff810078418930[#0,2] »/dev/pts«. 1287583914 M * MrTV then its clear --> /proc/pts 1287583971 M * MrTV however it should be ok to issue ps -ef within a guest i you ask me 1287583992 M * MrTV s/i/if/ 1287584097 M * ghislain this is because you do not entered the guest via ssh or other but in shell 1287584116 M * ghislain you bring settings from the original shell that make this error happen 1287584167 M * MrTV oh, ok. is there a proposed way to circumvent this? 1287584185 M * MrTV i mean without ssh'ing into it 1287584550 M * ghislain not that i know of, perhaps bertl will give some hints but from i gathered it is not possible in the actual vservers way of handling the thing 1287584589 M * ghislain it would mean messing with your current process link to the pts and relinking when you exit, not sure it is possible without hurting you in corner case 1287584708 M * MrTV ok 1287584834 M * MrTV i will go on and see if i can find another solution for my initial problem :) 1287584899 M * ghislain and if you find feel free to add this to the wiki :) 1287584985 M * MrTV you have no idea with the regex thing don't you? 1287585293 M * ghislain oh no :) 1287585718 M * MrTV the future of vserver seems a little undetermined with lxc comming up more and more 1287586063 M * ghislain i do not think so 1287586128 M * ghislain vserver team has a very good way ogf thinking in the KISS principle, this is what i like a project that is serious and tuned toward the best and simplest thing that works in the fields 1287586170 M * ghislain there is no buzzword and other things that clog the project. Anyway when a mainstream system can replace the vserver one and is good enough then they support it 1287586197 M * ghislain as bertl says when all is done in the kernel then vserver will mostly be a userspace tool 1287586379 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1287586406 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1287586534 M * MrTV i am a debian user and like to stay with the distro kernel for easier updates. also for "keeping it simple" in mind. if the vserver patch goes away i think there will be a lot of users who think about switching to lxc. at least i am doing this :) 1287586638 M * pmjdebruijn MrTV: debian kernels are often crap with or without vserver patch 1287586654 M * pmjdebruijn don't get me wrong, I stick with distro kernels, except on Debian :) 1287586702 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1287586703 M * MrTV why are they crap? 1287586745 M * MrTV i don't know the debian kernel team members, but i would assume that they do a good job 1287586854 M * ghislain they tend to choose the 'wrong' kernel i think this is also a ig part of the issue, with 2.6.32 they choose the same as others so this part is better 1287586880 M * ghislain the 2.6.26 one seems a really bad choice 1287586918 M * ghislain i don't know if they also port strange patch but at least they provide easy way to build kernel packkages so it is easy to build your own 1287586946 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:470:e056:9:89df:5c8b:496e:8410 1287587210 M * MrTV please forgive me my ignorance, but at some point back in time i stopped compiling my own kernels. i just didn't want to do this everytime a new version comes out, reading every bits and pices of what has changed and if i need it or not. call it lazyness or just aging of yourself. 1287587227 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1287587241 M * MrTV so i don't know why kernel 2.6.26 is bad in favour of 2.6.32 or any other 1287587277 M * MrTV apart from the higher version number of course ;) 1287587422 M * MrTV it's also easier if you maintain 10 real servers. ok you can compile the kernel deb package once and then spread it on the other machines. but what if those machines are different architectures? 1287587725 M * MrTV i have a different question 1287587805 M * ghislain yes but if the minline kernel xxx is KNOWN to have bad bugs in it the cost is worth it and most of the time there is not so much differences in the architecture, for the hardware module just use modules loading and there you go. But your mileage may vary it's up to you to choose the way it works for you 1287587913 M * pmjdebruijn ghislain: indeed the latest choice for 2.6.32 is pretty good 1287587929 M * pmjdebruijn although I'm not sure if debian is keeping in line with the point release, which would be a huge shame 1287587942 M * pmjdebruijn MrTV: make-kpkg :) 1287588067 M * MrTV pmjdebruijn: i know that this exists, but as i said. as long as i can go without compiling, i am at least trying to switch to the easier way. think of water, which is only running downhill :) 1287588154 M * MrTV my other question: i have the following situation: 2 contexts, both have rlimits rss setup. and both are running apache. now apache process are beeing killed, because the limit is reached. how can i tell which context was affected? 1287588180 M * MrTV here is a log entry: 1287588182 M * MrTV kernel: [1100633.586620] VM: killing process apache2 1287588196 M * MrTV there is no context id 1287588328 M * ghislain more /proc/virtual/*/limit 1287588328 M * ghislain look at "hits" 1287588364 M * pmjdebruijn MrTV: the way of least resistance is usually not the best way :) 1287588436 M * MrTV pmjdebruijn very wise answer ;) 1287588444 M * ghislain yes but when everyone is asking more and more in less and less time everybody make a choice so i can understand his point of vue, anyway you still have ben's kernel repository if you need one where the job is done for you 1287588480 M * ghislain he also host my util vserver package that is compile and use on my systems 1287588495 M * ghislain so you can leverage what other's do and share for the community 1287588507 M * ghislain but it require trust on my work and ben's one 1287588940 M * MrTV ghislain: thx i found the hits in the limit file 1287589005 M * ghislain you're welcome 1287589068 M * MrTV ghislain, i didn't get you when you said everybody is asking more and more in less and less time and so on. can you explain please? 1287589503 M * ghislain i refer to the cost of running a business, as a sysadmin you have more and more to do each week 1287589508 M * ghislain less and less time to do it 1287589515 M * ghislain so you have to make choices 1287589533 M * ghislain this is why sometime we use solutions that are not the best 1287589550 M * ghislain but are 'good enough' for runnign the business in the time we have 1287589552 M * MrTV absolute ack! 1287589565 M * ghislain this is also why most system are sub optimal ;) 1287589592 M * MrTV yep, 70% solution or so 1287589843 M * MrTV pmjdebruijn, what do you mean by "keeping in line with the point release" ? what is the "point release" with newer kernels? 1287589872 M * pmjdebruijn 2.6.32.24 for example 1287589897 M * pmjdebruijn the .24 signifies no major changes, only security/stability updates 1287589902 M * pmjdebruijn it's mostly maintained by GregKH 1287589919 M * pmjdebruijn Ubuntu for example periodically resyncs to these releases too 1287589927 M * pmjdebruijn Debian tends to backport only the security fixes 1287589937 M * pmjdebruijn I'm not sure what Debian currently does 1287589949 M * MrTV me neither :) 1287589982 M * pmjdebruijn which basically means Ubuntu 10.04 kernel is basically wonderful :) 1287589996 M * pmjdebruijn same some the new RHEL/SLES 1287590008 M * pmjdebruijn and the new Debian squeeze (unreleased) too if they continue to update 1287590009 M * MrTV yes but there is no vserver patch includes ;) 1287590015 M * MrTV included 1287590028 M * pmjdebruijn like I said... building your own shouldn't be a problem 1287590030 M * MrTV with ubuntu, i meant 1287590034 M * pmjdebruijn make-kpkg can generate kernel packages 1287590039 M * pmjdebruijn nice .deb's 1287590059 M * pmjdebruijn well most distro's don't because maintaining patched kernel is a lot of work 1287590068 M * MrTV yes, i know. it's one of the proposed debian ways to build your own kernel 1287590073 M * pmjdebruijn especially if $DISTRO's maintainers don't use vserver themselves... 1287590313 M * MrTV well, my lamenting doesn't help. i will just hope that squeeze will have the vserver patch, like they announced it. and if not, i will take a look in lxc. either technique is relatively new to me. maybe i also end up with vmware's esxi product, then i can just point and click ;) 1287590375 M * pmjdebruijn and are forced to use windows to manage it 1287590689 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-162-139.pools.arcor-ip.net 1287590986 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1287591102 Q * mike_ Quit: leaving 1287591191 M * MrTV i am forced to use windows already anyway :( 1287591893 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1287592071 M * MrTV thank you for your help so far and for sharing your thoughts, have to go now. but i'll stay in the channel. 1287593220 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1287593312 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1287593410 M * Bertl back now ... 1287594409 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@d046034.adsl.hansenet.de 1287594789 M * Bertl MrTV: check 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