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1287133724 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO
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1287144001 M * fback how can you increase # of interfaces for a guest with 2.3?
1287144015 M * fback seems there's a limit for 10
1287144053 M * daniel_hozac nope, no limit.
1287144405 M * fback hm, maybe outdated utils then
1287144505 M * daniel_hozac what issue are you seeing?
1287144561 P * kir Leaving.
1287144637 M * fback our sysadmins claim they cannot assign more than 10 ips using /etc/vservers/machine/interfaces/* infrastructure
1287144654 J * kaemka ~Kaemka@kaemka.vth.sgsnet.se
1287144783 M * daniel_hozac works fine for me.
1287144869 M * Bertl_oO fback: maybe they aren't able to find an eleventh digit?
1287144947 M * daniel_hozac ;)
1287145052 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: hi, in libvirt support, why did you choose to prefix all URIs with /system ?
1287145072 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: hmm?
1287145079 M * mnemoc is there any other "scope" you had in mind?
1287145084 M * mnemoc "vserver:///system"
1287145116 M * daniel_hozac not really.
1287145150 M * daniel_hozac /system is the default URI IIRC
1287145160 M * daniel_hozac and /session etc.
1287145164 M * daniel_hozac although those don't make sense.
1287145174 M * mnemoc ah, ok
1287145445 M * fback Bertl_oO: well, assuming how they do network-related stuff...
1287146410 M * Bertl_oO does somebody know a linux boot floppy (yes, max 1.44M) with network support, I'm trying to backup a pentium 75 system with 8MB memory :)
1287146505 M * fback Bertl_oO: check archives.debian.org
1287146529 M * Bertl_oO good hint, tx!
1287146576 M * fback Bertl_oO: I've revived ThinkPad few days ago :)
1287146592 M * fback TP600, that is
1287146617 M * Bertl_oO ah, that explains :)
1287146649 M * Bertl_oO http://wiki.debian.org/BootFloppy
1287146663 M * Bertl_oO hehe, that is fun, the link to the floppy image is:
1287146676 M * Bertl_oO ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/bf2.4
1287146695 M * Bertl_oO no idea why testing doesn't have that anymore :)
1287146977 M * swenTjuln hi all
1287146990 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1287146994 M * Bertl hi swenTjuln!
1287146995 M * swenTjuln would it be possible to create iscsi target within vserver guest?
1287147020 M * fback heh
1287147030 M * fback because 'testing' is not valid there anymore
1287147035 M * fback try etch
1287147066 M * Bertl fback: was just kidding, I doubt they have boot floppys, but I already found one in the archives
1287147071 M * fback and definitely from archive. and not current server
1287147078 M * Bertl swenTjuln: eveything userspace will work fine
1287147124 M * fback http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/
1287147158 M * fback http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/
1287147161 M * fback :)
1287147177 M * Bertl seriously?
1287147203 M * Bertl fascinating ...
1287147591 M * swenTjuln Bertl: thats the thing....i doubt its all userspace. I guess I'll try
1287147639 M * Bertl well, the target doesn't really need anything kernel wise AFAICT, it just provides data for requests
1287147662 M * arekm Bertl: anything known? http://pastebin.org/204990
1287147772 M * Bertl I see those popping up recently, but I guess it is just the combination of bad scheduling with low memory and certain type of applications which 'hang' for a while when waiting for a response or so
1287147817 M * Bertl as you can see from the trace, the rpcbind is 'just' waiting for a lock
1287148000 M * bzed Bertl: if I remember right we don't do floppy images anymore. you'll have to boot from usb or the network
1287148009 M * bzed Bertl: also 8mb ram is not enough...
1287148020 M * bzed I think you need 64mb at least for dbeian
1287148038 M * Bertl nowadays, yes
1287148040 M * bzed Bertl: give damn small linux a try, that should boot fine on the machine
1287148062 M * bzed http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
1287148064 M * arekm the question is why these didn't happen on earlier kernels hmm
1287148092 M * Bertl I guess because the scheduler was a lot better and the 'task hung' check was not enabled by default?
1287148120 M * Bertl bzed: thanks, will probably check it out as well
1287148153 M * Bertl (if they have a boot floppy)
1287148210 M * bzed they have a boot floppy, but I think you still need a cd or usb stick
1287148226 M * Bertl no go then
1287148238 M * swenTjuln Bertl: check http://coyotelinux.com/downloads/
1287148256 M * Bertl usb wasn't even invented when this machine was built, and unfortunately a cd drive isn't an option
1287148606 Q * Alteisen Remote host closed the connection
1287148719 M * bzed Bertl: what about ripping the disk out of the machine and backing it up from some other machine?
1287148752 M * Bertl too dangerous, I already tried that with a similar machine, but the disk cannot be read on a modern ide interface
1287148760 M * PowerKe With regard to linux on a floppy, I've used http://www.toms.net/rb/ (tomsrtbt) in the past (5 years+ ago). It's still there, no idea when it was last updated
1287148763 M * Bertl (despite the fact that it is an AT disk)
1287148823 M * swenTjuln Bertl: "* iSCSI requires a mounted sysfs, not started." .  Is there a way (not too dagerous) to expose sysfs?
1287148866 M * Bertl I don't see why 'iSCSI' would require that, but you can mount it inside the guest as well
1287148892 M * Bertl (security mechanisms will still apply, and I'm not sure it will really help)
1287148898 M * bzed not sure if you'd want to have that within a guest
1287148909 M * bzed or is access to the power management sutff and similar things limited than?
1287148951 M * bzed swenTjuln: I'm wondering if you'd be able to use iscsi inside of a vserver at all
1287148964 M * bzed swenTjuln: as it needs to create new disk device nodes
1287148979 M * bzed and you might even want to use multipath on top of your iscsi devices
1287148984 M * Bertl why shouldn't it?
1287148994 M * swenTjuln bzed: one could use file images to expose storage
1287149007 M * Bertl first, we are talking iSCSI target, so that just means providing some kind of storage via network
1287149022 M * Bertl any apache does that, just with a different protocol
1287149045 M * bzed ah target...
1287149051 M * Bertl for iSCSI initiator, you want to do the mount in the guest config's fstab anyway
1287149070 M * Bertl and that was tested a long time ago and seems to work fine, as does AOE
1287149072 M * bzed the only properly working target I know needs a kernel module
1287149089 M * bzed aoe works fine without modules
1287149114 M * Bertl might be that there are no proper implementations, but that is not a problem with iSCSI per se
1287149746 M * PowerKe btw, if you can't get the network started on that old Pentium, it probably has a serial port. At 45MB/hour it'll probably take some hours up to a few days to copy the data.
1287149815 M * sid3windr haha
1287149822 M * sid3windr iscsi over serial would be awesome. :>
1287150128 J * Alteisen alteisen@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
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1287150819 J * Alteisen alteisen@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
1287151989 M * swenTjuln looks like there is no-go for iscsi within guest
1287151997 M * swenTjuln tnx anyway
1287152086 M * Bertl what is the error you get and what implementation do you use?
1287152143 M * swenTjuln i tried openiscsi and tgt
1287152169 M * swenTjuln stgt even
1287152207 M * Bertl okay, and the error you get?
1287152322 M * swenTjuln iscsi throws: "cannot create /dev/ietctl 1"
1287152353 M * swenTjuln even if I create it manually with mknod ietctl c 251 0 from host
1287152422 M * Bertl Tgt consists of kernel-space and user-space code. The kernel-space component is included in upstream as of 2.6.20. Note that if you are interested in only iSCSI (probably you are), you need only the user-space code (any kernel version is fine).
1287152569 M * swenTjuln tgt throws: "can't adjust oom-killer's pardon /proc/$PID/oom_adj, Permission denied"
1287152582 M * swenTjuln :(
1287152612 M * Bertl you can easily fix that
1287152649 M * swenTjuln rly?
1287152651 M * swenTjuln how?
1287152652 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1287152659 M * Bertl search for OOM_ADJUST
1287152690 M * swenTjuln this would solve some sshd issues in recent ubuntus
1287152730 M * Bertl well, disabling the 'feature' in sshd works as well
1287152789 M * Bertl note that I consider this a step in the wrong direction
1287152818 M * Bertl sooner or later any application will want to get an OOM pardon because it is _soo_ important to keep it running
1287152849 M * Bertl which just turns the mechanism against itself
1287152895 M * Bertl OOM adjustments should _only_ be made by a system administrator and not by a daemon or program and never by a single app/task
1287152970 M * swenTjuln Bertl: i agree
1287153008 M * swenTjuln and I know that you can disable it in ssh.conf. I wrote it in a wiki ;)
1287153025 M * Wonka well, the OOMK was completely reworked in 2.6.36 anyway
1287153270 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1287153431 M * swenTjuln si this right? :  vattribute --xid 40002 --set --ccap OOM_ADJUST
1287153484 M * swenTjuln im getting: Unknown ccap 'oom_adjust'
1287154145 M * Bertl util-vserver version?
1287154328 M * swenTjuln 0.30.215, cant believe it
1287154381 M * swenTjuln damn....i was sure I was usin .216
1287154474 M * swenTjuln pkgmanager reports: Version: 0.30.216~r2842-2ubuntu2
1287154478 M * swenTjuln wtf?
1287154792 M * Bertl make sure to update and if necessary remove the old version manually
1287154883 M * swenTjuln this packet is all wrong
1287154906 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat
1287154928 M * swenTjuln I took a look into binary file (vserver-info) and there it was 0.30.215 :(
1287155056 M * swenTjuln is cannonical lieing?
1287155073 M * Bertl probably :)
1287155216 M * swenTjuln now I remember! This one http://ppa.launchpad.net/christoph-lukas/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-vserver/http://ppa.launchpad.net/christoph-lukas/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-vserver/util-vserver_0.30.216~r2772-6~ppa1_amd64.deb has dependency on some obsoleete packet
1287155257 M * Bertl which package would that be?
1287155274 M * swenTjuln libbeecrypt6
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1287155943 M * Bertl well, you can use beecrypt or the mozilla stuff when you build from source
1287156042 M * swenTjuln i kind of try to avoid compiling from source
1287156055 M * swenTjuln it can become really messy
1287156128 M * swenTjuln Bertl: tnx for help....gotta run. 
1287156132 M * Bertl cya
1287156146 M * swenTjuln bye
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1287157924 M * kaemka Hi. Does anyone have an idea why file ownership inside my guest always changes from root:root to 4294967294:4294967294 when any files are accessed?
1287157970 M * Bertl what kernel/patch/util-vserver version and what filesystem?
1287157985 M * Bertl (and yes, I have a good idea what happens :)
1287158141 M * kaemka let me see..
1287158150 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1287158236 M * kaemka kernel 2.6.32 and util-vserver 0.30.216
1287158252 M * kaemka on ext3 through nfs4
1287158316 M * Bertl ah, you look at the files via nfs
1287158355 M * Bertl you use something called tagging (a Linux-VServer feature) and you selected (in the kernel) to use UID/GID tagging 
1287158388 M * Bertl this means that a certain portion of the UID/GID range (usually 8 bit) are used to represent the guest tag
1287158410 M * kaemka Ah, and this number happens to be.. max int -1?
1287158445 M * Bertl hmm, actually that is the 'nobody' user
1287158468 M * Bertl i.e. when nfs cannot map the UID/GID, it uses -2
1287158478 M * kaemka Oh.
1287158501 M * Bertl so it might not even be realted to the tagging, now that I think of it
1287158609 M * kaemka maximum unsigned 32 bit int is 4294967295 right?, wich would be -1 signed. So my user is -2..
1287158647 M * kaemka So nfs is unable to handle this reservation from the vserver patch?
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1287159964 M * kaemka Bertl? Anyone?
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1287176601 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
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1287178484 M * arekm Bertl: http://pld.pastebin.com/s3x9McPB
1287178703 Q * ghislain 
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1287184211 M * Bertl arekm: will check that later, might help to convert the addresses to file:line with addr2line
1287184224 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1287184230 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1287184645 J * rgl ~Rui@a81-84-87-57.cpe.netcabo.pt
1287184649 A * rgl waves
1287184687 M * rgl is it normal when we do a reboot inside a guest, the runlevel (after reboot) is set to 2 6?
1287184701 M * rgl is this a problem somewhere?
1287184808 M * rgl I find it odd that 6 (shutdown) is the current runlevel.
1287185049 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1287185081 M * micah rgl: you dont normally do a reboot inside the guest
1287185097 M * rgl why not?
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