1286767435 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286767655 Q * derjohn_mob Read error: No route to host 1286774548 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.15.238 1286775817 J * rgl ~Rui@a81-84-87-57.cpe.netcabo.pt 1286776300 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286776336 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-012-35.customers.d1-online.com 1286777156 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no 1286777157 Q * derjohn_mob Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286777706 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-048-167.customers.d1-online.com 1286777998 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286778531 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAAB6D.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1286778728 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1286778732 M * Bertl morning folks! 1286778915 J * ntrs ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286778952 M * hijacker morning 1286779694 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-232-252.pools.arcor-ip.net 1286780600 M * Alteisen hi 1286780603 M * Alteisen root@alix:/home/daniel# vserver-stat 1286780603 M * Alteisen CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME 1286780603 M * Alteisen 201 5 0 0 1m05s27 0m11s55 11d20h25 test01 1286780634 M * Alteisen if vserver-stat does not show memory usage of the guests, is that a kernel option issue? 1286780658 M * Alteisen i use a custom 2.6.35.5-vs2.3.0.36.32 1286780818 M * Bertl util-vserver version? 1286780986 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1286781029 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1286781031 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1286781166 Q * Romster Quit: Geeks shall inherit properties and methods of object earth. 1286781566 M * fback morning Bertl :) 1286782028 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286782028 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286782118 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1286782204 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1286782525 M * Alteisen Bertl: util-vserver 0.30.216-pre2864-2+b1 1286782800 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1286782811 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286782896 J * ntrs ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286783573 M * Bertl Alteisen: try a newer one 1286783976 M * Alteisen hmpf 1286784013 M * Bertl the kernel switched from Linux-VServer accounting to cgroups 1286784046 M * Bertl so vserver-stat will not be able to show anything meaningfull from the old accounting info (which was used before) 1286784201 M * Alteisen i have cgroups in the kernel and also the legacy stuff in vserver options 1286784233 M * Bertl you really don't want to use the 'legacy stuff' with recent kernels :) 1286784300 M * Alteisen well, it fixed my first problem that vserver-stat had an error while executing it 1286784321 M * Alteisen now vserver-stat is running but i get no VSZ an RSS values 1286784361 M * Alteisen i would like to stay with the debian squeeze packages, or with squeeze-backport-packages 1286784370 M * fback Alteisen: I had the same issue with "official" debian package 1286784392 M * Alteisen fback: how did you solve it? 1286784416 M * fback Alteisen: switched to latest util-vserver :-) 1286784427 M * Alteisen self-compiled? 1286784457 M * fback Alteisen: you can build .deb from sources 1286784482 M * BenG fback, did that work out for you? there've been some issues reported on the list 1286784486 M * Alteisen fback: did you blacklist the original debian package? 1286784512 M * fback BenG: there's hint in the backlog 1286784526 M * BenG Alteisen, you know there some packages here: http://repo.psand.net/info/ 1286784532 M * fback you have to run one script by hand and regenerate .debs 1286784548 M * BenG cool, have sent that to the list fback ? 1286784624 M * Alteisen BenG: psand.net repo did not work for me 1286784634 M * BenG in what sense did not work? 1286784639 M * fback Alteisen: version is newer, and dpkg won't downgrade by default 1286784640 M * Alteisen packages are for lenny - i use squeeze 1286784643 M * BenG ah 1286784647 M * Alteisen dependency fuck up 1286784649 M * BenG good point 1286784690 M * BenG I'll start compiling kernels for Squeeze once it's stable 1286784691 M * Alteisen i guess that deb'ing an own package from source might be the way to got 1286784693 M * Alteisen -t 1286784705 M * fback some time ago I did some other thing 1286784706 M * Alteisen BenG: it's freezing... 1286784720 M * Alteisen so i don't mess my time with lenny ;-) 1286784721 M * BenG deep freezing no less! 1286784744 M * BenG good point, but I don't have consistent util-vserver packages for squeeze yet either 1286784755 M * BenG will have to start building them too 1286784766 M * fback took official sources and manually patched them with patches taken from svn 1286784770 M * fback version by version 1286784807 M * fback this way you get more-debianish version of util-vserver, with custom init.d scripts 1286784830 M * Alteisen fback: good hint 1286784868 M * Alteisen so i can switch back to original package, when it enters squeeze backports 1286784907 M * fback Alteisen: if you take this option, you have to take care on already backported patches 1286784958 M * fback but upgrades are easier, just add another diff to patches and you're usually done 1286785261 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1286785482 M * ghislain beng: i updated the package they should work for squeeze too now 1286785495 M * ghislain beng: but as allways no time to test 1286785547 M * Alteisen ghislain: the psand.net repo? 1286785870 M * Alteisen i might test it, after my new kernel works - it is just compiling... 1286786133 J * rgl ~Rui@a81-84-87-57.cpe.netcabo.pt 1286787156 M * ghislain i update them and then Beng put them in the repos 1286787172 M * ghislain the squeeze ones were bloking because a dependancy version 1286787233 M * ghislain but i corrected it, if anyone know how to say i nedd libbcrypt whatever version instead og libbcrypt5 or libbcrypt6 but as it is in the packagename not in the version i guess this cannot be done 1286787290 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286788677 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1286788864 M * Alteisen ghislain: i have now "deb http://repo.psand.net/ squeeze main" in my sources.list - how do i install your updated util-vserver package now? 1286788891 M * Alteisen it does not install automatically via apt-get update; apt-get upgrade 1286788930 M * ghislain because it is not YET in the repo, it must be updated with my last packages sorry 1286788976 M * Alteisen ah 1286788987 M * ghislain the lenny one is ok but the squeeze had some issue it will be uploaded i guess when some free time comes which could be soon 1286788998 M * Alteisen just let me know when it is in, i will test it 1286789017 M * Alteisen i guess it will show up in apt-cache search util-vserver then 1286789025 M * ghislain if you want to test the version i have just get it from here https://support.aqueos.net/debian/squeeze/?C=M;O=A until the repo is updated 1286789038 M * ghislain of course the package is at your own risk 1286789052 M * ghislain should not kill anyone jsut works or fail but this is the deal 1286789089 M * ghislain the -debian ones are the one trying to keep the debian directory structure, the basic.deb are the one using the util-vserver defaults 1286789107 M * ghislain do not use the kernels here jsut the packages 1286789128 M * ghislain they are for my use and are with minimal drivers and would fail on most hardware 1286789165 M * Alteisen hrhr, my kernel would fail on most hardware too 1286789178 M * ghislain so https://support.aqueos.net/debian/squeeze/util-vserver-basic_0.30.216-pre2914squeeze.3_amd64.deb or https://support.aqueos.net/debian/squeeze/util-vserver-basic-debian_0.30.216-pre2914squeeze.3_amd64.deb 1286789192 M * ghislain yes mine fails on my own hardware from time to time lol 1286789745 M * Alteisen i use teh _i386, but both fail 1286789887 Q * derjohn_mob Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286790045 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286790045 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286790351 J * ntrs ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286790364 Q * ntrs_ Read error: No route to host 1286790690 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@88.128.159.253 1286790872 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286791800 J * ntrs ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286791899 M * ghislain what error do you get please ? 1286792293 M * Alteisen dpkg -i util-vserver-basic-debian_0.30.216-pre2914squeeze.3_i386.deb 1286792305 M * Alteisen This package is made for guest in /var/lib/vservers, you have /vservers this will not work 1286792540 M * Alteisen in the original debian package, they use /var/lib/vservers, but i ignore that and use /vservers instead 1286792606 M * Alteisen the other package claims that it wants /usr/local/etc/vservers, but /etc/vservers exists... 1286792748 M * geb Alteisen, use mv, ln -s etc :) 1286792751 M * ghislain how is your install could you plkease post vserver-info in the pastebin ? 1286792804 Q * derjohn_mob Read error: No route to host 1286792829 M * ghislain or you got debian's way: /etc/vservers and /var/lib/vservers or you have the vserver way: /usr/local/vservers and /vservers 1286792840 M * ghislain if you use a mix then the package cannot work for you :) 1286792859 M * ghislain or you must use links 1286792883 M * ghislain ln -s /usr/local/etc/vservers /etc/vservers 1286792901 M * geb yeah, for example, i also use util-vserver-basic-debian, have /var/lib/vservers and /vservers (linked to /var/lib/vservers ), removing /vservers while installing the package and rebuilding the links after just worked :) 1286792906 M * ghislain best to keep the package that use you virtual server directory and link the config one 1286792924 M * ghislain it should work even without erasing no ? 1286792935 M * ghislain the latest one detect if the files are the same 1286792953 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286792961 Q * ntrs Read error: No route to host 1286792970 M * ghislain it does a stats on /vservers/. or /var/lib/vservers/. and continue if they are the same 1286792989 M * geb the precedent version i tested abords the installation if /vservers/ exists 1286793027 M * ghislain yes, the new one should not 1286793046 M * ghislain VSERVERUSRETC=`/usr/bin/stat -c '%d%i' /usr/local/etc/vservers/.`; VSERVERETC=`/usr/bin/stat -c '%d%i' /etc/vservers/.`; 1286793048 M * geb fine :) 1286793054 M * ghislain if [ "$VSERVERETC" != "$VSERVERUSRETC" ] ; then 1286793063 M * ghislain this should keep even bind mount happy 1286793084 M * ghislain if not report to me on the mailling list and i will correct them 1286793385 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286793470 J * ntrs ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286793688 M * Alteisen i removed all vserver dirs 1286793711 M * Alteisen but now i can not install because of dependecy issue 1286793732 M * Alteisen libbeecrypt6 1286793848 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286793914 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286795219 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1286795261 Q * BenG 1286795388 M * ghislain ah this was the issue, so it is still there 1286795401 M * ghislain dam it, let we one hour or two to correct this 1286795510 M * ghislain so you have libbcrypt7 on squeeze ? 1286795649 M * ghislain you can also force it as this is only an issue with replacing a 6 by a 7 :) 1286795971 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1286796046 M * Alteisen or i try to make my own .deb 1286796222 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@88.128.42.119 1286796478 Q * derjohn_mob Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286796804 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAACJV.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1286799654 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@51.42.69.80.in-addr.net-lab.net 1286799901 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1286800347 A * ard also made some new packages against lenny :-) http://217.196.41.9/public_html/vserver/ 1286800390 M * ard mostly plain daniel_hozac style with some compatability patches, and namespace patches I need for now :-) 1286801227 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11 1286802632 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection 1286802728 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1286802801 M * ghislain Alt: the new package are there pleas test the last hicups should be removed now 1286802804 M * ghislain https://support.aqueos.net/debian/squeeze/?C=M;O=A 1286802855 M * ghislain perhaps we could join our efforts instead of creating each one in our garden what do you think of it ? 1286803138 J * derjohn_mob aj@tmo-086-129.customers.d1-online.com 1286803547 J * FlashDeluxe 574f5e1c@ircip1.mibbit.com 1286803631 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286803653 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@51.42.69.80.in-addr.net-lab.net 1286803790 M * FlashDeluxe Hi @ all! I am using vserver with asterisk as guest and i want to mknod my channels, but i cannot do it in the guest system, "mknod: `dev/zap/1': Operation not permitted" , although /usr/sbin/reducecap --show says that mknod is effective and permitted, so my question is: Why isnt it permitted and how can i make the nodes? 1286803863 M * ghislain i think there is a capabililty to enbale to allow guest to make nod no ? 1286803893 M * daniel_hozac FlashDeluxe: does your kernel have device mapping enabled? 1286804025 J * nick ~nick@213.248.58.170 1286804150 M * nick hi. i'm try install vserver on my debian squeeze. create and run virtual server. and not found 127.0.0.1 1286804205 M * daniel_hozac nick: what version? 1286804230 M * nick and in debian Lenny available imitation lo :( 1286804243 M * nick sec, create paste :) 1286804262 M * nick vserver-info output http://paste.pocoo.org/show/273986/ 1286804295 M * nick reinstall box (to lenny) ? :( 1286804348 M * daniel_hozac you really should upgrade your util-vserver. 1286804379 M * nick it's latest version 1286804385 M * daniel_hozac no, it's not. 1286804388 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.215 is ancient. 1286804393 M * FlashDeluxe daniel_hozac, ghislain: I think there is a capbility, because the output of /usr/sbin/reducecap --show says MKNOD is permitted, i think that it has device mapping enabled, because there are devices whihc have bee already mknodded (it was longer ago) 1286804420 M * daniel_hozac see http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/ for recent versions. 1286804488 M * daniel_hozac FlashDeluxe: where are you running that? 1286804497 M * nick try to update 1286804509 M * daniel_hozac FlashDeluxe: if you have device mapping enabled, you need to do more than just give it the capability. 1286804570 M * nick http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2914.tar.bz2 ? 1286804581 M * daniel_hozac yep 1286804614 M * daniel_hozac nick: you may also want to check how your kernel was configured. if CONFIG_VSERVER_AUTO_LBACK is not enabled, you have to set it up manually. 1286804631 M * FlashDeluxe daniel_hozac: in the machine there was a duo_bri card with 6 channels built in and now i built in a card with 12 channels, the driver runs on the host and the asterisk server on the guest, so if i need to do more, what do i need to do? 1286804711 M * daniel_hozac FlashDeluxe: well, first check if its enabled in the kernel. 1286804743 M * FlashDeluxe daniel_hozac: how do i do that? 1286804751 M * nick daniel_hozac, CONFIG_VSERVER_AUTO_LBACK=y 1286804854 M * daniel_hozac FlashDeluxe: grep VSERVER_DEVICE /boot/config-`uname -r` 1286805052 M * FlashDeluxe there are no files in /boot 1286805068 M * daniel_hozac well, wherever you keep your kernel then? 1286805125 M * FlashDeluxe i didn`t set up the system, so i don`t really know, but if i execute 'locate config-2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64' it doesn`t find anything??! 1286805194 M * nick ifconfig lo 1286805194 M * nick lo: error fetching interface information: Device not found 1286805198 M * nick daniel_hozac, :( noop 1286805237 M * nick grep LBACK /boot/config-`uname -r` 1286805237 M * nick # CONFIG_VGACON_SOFT_SCROLLBACK is not set 1286805237 M * nick CONFIG_VSERVER_AUTO_LBACK=y 1286805281 M * daniel_hozac nick: what does nattribute --nid --get show? 1286805344 M * nick nattribute --nid 40000 --get 1286805345 M * nick ncapabilities: 1286805345 M * nick raw_icmp 1286805345 M * nick nflags: 1286805346 M * nick lback_remap,hide_netif,hide_lback,state_admin 1286805442 M * FlashDeluxe daniel_hozac: perhaps i can do anything at the host to tell the guest to make these nodes, is that possible? 1286805458 M * daniel_hozac nick: on the host, is lo up and has an IP address assigned? 1286805485 M * daniel_hozac FlashDeluxe: you can just cp -a /dev/... /vservers//dev/ 1286805540 M * FlashDeluxe and that will work? 1286805547 M * nick daniel_hozac, yes 1286805558 M * daniel_hozac FlashDeluxe: yes. 1286805587 M * nick oh 1286805609 M * nick noop, reassign and now available in guest layer 1286805674 M * nick daniel_hozac, thnx !! 1286805682 M * daniel_hozac you're welcome 1286805761 M * nick :) 1286805912 M * FlashDeluxe mhh ok i will try it 1286806859 Q * nick Quit: Ухожу я от вас 1286806991 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286807008 J * alpha_one_x86 ~kvirc@46.30.17.95.dynamic.jazztel.es 1286807159 M * alpha_one_x86 With guest I have: No space left on device: mod_rewrite: could not create rewrite_log_lock and: (28)No space left on device: mod_python: Failed to create global mutex 0 of 8 (/tmp/mpmtx183130). 1286807169 M * alpha_one_x86 who can help me? 1286807194 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1286807244 M * PowerKe alpha_one_x86: /tmp is by default a tmpfs filesystem of 16MB 1286807246 M * alpha_one_x86 I have 90% of freespace, and the first vm have the bug, not the second 1286807257 M * PowerKe you can either increase it or comment the line so it's on disk instead of tmpfs 1286807262 M * alpha_one_x86 I have drop /tmp as tmpfs 1286807350 M * alpha_one_x86 Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hdv1 1448460732 119163464 1329297268 9% / 1286807489 M * PowerKe have you tried creating a testfile in / and in /tmp ? 1286807496 Q * FlashDeluxe Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client 1286807811 M * Bertl it is adviseable to put larger contents in /var/tmp 1286807829 M * alpha_one_x86 I have not the control to that's 1286807860 M * Bertl then make sure /tmp inside the guest is not a tmpfs or is large enough to hold the files 1286807865 M * alpha_one_x86 the second guest workd not the first guest, and before reboot it's the inverse 1286807876 M * alpha_one_x86 I'm sure of that's 1286807882 M * Bertl also make sure that you have enough inodes on the filesystem (total or dlimit) 1286807900 M * Bertl (df vs df -i) 1286807901 M * alpha_one_x86 I have probleme only on special file like mutex/lock 1286807935 M * alpha_one_x86 df -> 9% used, df -i (inode) -> 2% used 1286807944 M * Bertl filesystem for /tmp ? 1286808015 Q * C14r Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286808027 J * C14r ~C14r@mail.cipworx.de 1286808137 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1286808422 J * rgl ~Rui@a81-84-87-57.cpe.netcabo.pt 1286808500 M * alpha_one_x86 both 1286808517 M * Bertl what is the filesystem for /tmp? 1286808563 M * alpha_one_x86 notihing, /tmp is not mounted, only / /proc /dev/pts is mounted 1286808584 M * Bertl what is the filesystem /tmp is on 1286808594 M * Bertl ext2/3/4/reiserfs/xfs/jfs? 1286808629 P * kir Leaving. 1286808737 M * alpha_one_x86 ext4 1286808754 M * alpha_one_x86 same as the other guest 1286808779 M * alpha_one_x86 2 guest have same content, on same partition, but one work, not the other 1286808903 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286809149 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-232-252.pools.arcor-ip.net 1286809231 M * Bertl alpha_one_x86: sounds strange to me, kernel and Linux-VServer patch version? 1286809275 M * Bertl I would understand if you encountered the issue in general inside a guest, but two guests with the same configuration are unlikely to differ from the Linux-VServer point of view 1286809277 M * alpha_one_x86 2.6.32 + vserver 1286809313 M * Bertl you might want to try with a 2.6.35.x kernel and patch, just to rule out mainline/ext4 issues 1286809332 M * Bertl and of course, double check that the config is indeed identical 1286809343 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1286809361 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1286809388 M * alpha_one_x86 I have try change my kernel to 2.6.35 -> it's worse 1286809406 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1286809425 M * alpha_one_x86 it's 2x the same guest, only ip, name, context change 1286810838 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAACSO.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1286811159 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1286811815 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1286813218 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1286814935 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286815142 J * ntrs ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286815161 M * alpha_one_x86 Now after restart vm I have: 1286815161 M * alpha_one_x86 vcontext: pivot_root(): Device or resource busy 1286815284 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286815336 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286815432 M * ghislain try adding --debug to see if it gives clue 1286815470 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAACVY.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1286815470 J * ntrs ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com 1286815480 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286815721 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286815954 M * alpha_one_x86 where/how? I user vserver start/stop 1286817437 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1286817440 M * Bertl back now 1286817446 M * Bertl alpha_one_x86: what util-vserver version? 1286817631 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1286818232 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.115.191 1286818288 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.28.17.146 1286818288 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286818597 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286818735 M * alpha_one_x86 sys-cluster/util-vserver-0.30.216_pre2910 1286818743 M * alpha_one_x86 I have try other version 1286818752 J * skoolkid ~skoolkid@63.81.0.20 1286818985 M * skoolkid quick question: is there any way to get the vserver Host when you're logged into the vserver Guest? 1286819034 M * skoolkid I know you can find the vserver Guests from the vserver Host 1286819072 Q * alpha_one_x86 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286819416 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.115.191 1286819850 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286819974 M * Bertl skoolkid: strange question, but no, unless you provide that information to the guest, there should be no information from the host (inside the guest) 1286820288 J * alpha_one_x86 ~kvirc@46.30.17.95.dynamic.jazztel.es 1286820379 M * alpha_one_x86 re, sorry 1286820392 M * Bertl wb 1286820422 M * skoolkid Bertl thanks 1286820492 M * skoolkid I thought maybe there are some API that we can find out what the host is from the guest, since they are running on the same physical host 1286820834 M * alpha_one_x86 problem located, it's because I have put my binairy from my systeme into other system, it lunch but missing control do this kind of error 1286821671 P * skoolkid thanks Bertl you're very helpful 1286823652 Q * jrdnyquist Quit: Leaving 1286824075 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1286824200 Q * alpha_one_x86 Quit: KVIrc Equilibrium 4.1.1, revision: 5000, sources date: 20100905, built on: 2010-09-23 09:33:17 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ 1286824236 J * derjohn_mob aj@88.128.129.82 1286824283 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1286824620 J * rgl ~Rui@a81-84-87-57.cpe.netcabo.pt 1286825872 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1286826248 M * fback good evening Bertl, or is it morning again? ;-) 1286826539 M * Bertl evening, still evening :) 1286826761 M * petzsch the evening is still young :) 1286826992 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAAC4Z.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1286827184 M * fback petzsch: you never know what's the time in B(U?)TZ :) 1286827343 M * petzsch who needs timezones... when we can live by a unix timestamp :-) 1286827845 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1286831630 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1286831678 Q * Vudumen Read error: Connection reset by peer 1286831742 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu 1286832445 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection 1286832930 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1286833033 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-232-252.pools.arcor-ip.net 1286833593 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1286834583 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com 1286834836 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1286835356 J * ^jan ~jan@77.228.228.188 1286835384 M * ^jan hi all 1286835392 Q * ^jan 1286835434 J * ^jan ~jan@77.228.228.188 1286835508 M * ^jan hi again... 1286835663 M * ^jan well, I know it could sound stupid/newbei question... but I need to install linux-vserver in a new machine in OVH datacenter... by default it is installed with Debian and this kernel: 2.6.34.6-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 1286835744 M * ^jan and I was wondering if linux-vserver could be installed easylly in it... I have no idea how to recompile kernel, but I have a program that manages vservers once the hosts is installed.. so I need to set a hosts first... any help? any tip? 1286835835 M * Bertl what is xxxx-grs? 1286835839 M * ^jan my usual technical person that manages this is currently long away, and I am in a hurry to set it asap.. sorry to disturb you anyway 1286835855 M * ^jan I guess it is a ovh customized kernel 1286835866 M * bzed ^jan: the kernel sounds like its patched with grsecurity... 1286835869 M * ^jan OVH is a big datacenter in Europe 1286835882 M * Bertl so basically you have no idea what that kernel is/has compiled in 1286835901 M * ^jan rigth, sorry formy complete ignorance 1286835902 M * Bertl do you have the sources and kernel config for that kernel? 1286835911 M * ^jan nops 1286835929 M * ^jan well, no idea, I doubt they provide it... let me check 1286835954 M * daniel_hozac they're required for legal purposes, but... 1286836054 M * Bertl anyway, do you have a serial console/kvm attached to the host? 1286836072 M * ^jan well, not seems I could access to its kernel sources.. but I see they have a "rescue mode" that seems I could access to /boot partition... could it help? 1286836138 M * ^jan they call it "netboot" function in its main dedicated server panel 1286836160 M * Bertl the question is, do you have access to e.g. the grub boot menu? 1286836372 M * ^jan interesting question... sorry again.. no idea.. that I can see in /boot/grub directory is only a binary ascii.pff file 1286836425 M * ^jan following the online instructions from OVH seems that I can manage lilo using netboot.. coudl it help? 1286836470 M * Bertl well, I'd first try to work that out, i.e. once you manage to somehow access and control grub, you can start testing kernels 1286836490 M * Bertl just add panic=30 to the kernel command line 1286836706 M * ^jan mmm... I see I have no serial console/kvm access neither... only a web control panel for my dedicated server 1286836792 M * Bertl will probably be a lot of fun debugging the bootup process 1286836827 M * Bertl anyway, get a kernel (from kernel org and start configuring it till it boots 1286836844 M * Bertl once that works, add Linux-VServer patches and if you like grsec 1286836871 M * Bertl (keep the config of your known working mainline kernel, use 'make oldconfig') 1286836937 M * ^jan but you mean a "normal" kernel? or one from from http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/kernel/vs2.2/ ? 1286836953 M * Bertl start with one from kernel.org 1286836978 M * Bertl once that is configured properly and boots, adding the Linux-VServer patch will be simple 1286837051 M * ^jan but then... I am wondering the difference with that "normal" kernel and the current one already installed... so.. could be that the currently installed is valid now? or you guess not? 1286837087 M * Bertl I can't follow you? 1286837118 M * ^jan sorry for my ignorance about kernels again... or this missunderstood... 1286837241 M * ^jan now there is a kernel and it boots, but it is precompiled by my datacenter provider... In fact I was asking what are the correct steps to install linux-vserver under this situation... I guessed I needed to install kernel from sources, but maybe there are other ways that I do not know 1286837287 M * Bertl well, Linux-VServer is a kernel patch 1286837320 M * Bertl so you need to have a kernel to patch (which means the sources) and you definitely want a 'known good' configuration 1286837349 M * ^jan aha, now I understand why I need kernel sources, sorry :) 1286837362 M * Bertl as you don't know what the 'current' kernel contains, and you don't have sources either, it's kind of useless for you 1286837411 M * ^jan sure, thanks, I wll try first then to install a kernel from kernel.org before to ask here again about linux-vserver.. now I understand 1286837479 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1286838094 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1286838935 M * ^jan another question... in your wiki you said: "You want a monolithic kernel and your distribution uses modules " ... I am now in menuconfig step... and I see modules are not activated by default... should I activate them? 1286838968 M * Bertl that mostly depends on your preference 1286839028 M * ^jan so, about linux-vserver there is not difference.. it could be applied in both cases, right ? 1286839041 M * Bertl yes, definitely 1286839063 M * ^jan thanks, then I will follow that tutorial that I found in its forum, thanks 1286839137 M * Bertl if you are configuring the kernel from scratch, probably the easiest way is to run 'make oldconfig' with an empty .config file and answer the questions accordingly 1286839171 M * Bertl for every subsystem or device you don't know the answer, read the explanations and if still in doubt, take the default 1286839233 M * ^jan no, this provider gives its .config files seems here: ftp://ftp.ovh.net/made-in-ovh/bzImage/2.6.32.2-4/ 1286839286 M * ^jan I am just modifying it following a tutorial that I found in its forum 1286839815 M * ^jan hehe, doing "make"... it will be my first kernel compiled! :-) 1286840805 M * ^jan after rebooting... new kernel installed: 2.6.32.24-grsec-xxxx-std-ipv6-64 :-) 1286840825 M * Bertl hmm? 1286840845 M * Bertl where does the grsec-xxxx-std ... come from? 1286840865 M * ^jan I guees from the OVH .config 1286840888 M * ^jan well, I installed a patch for grsec following that tutorial 1286840924 M * Bertl the question is, why do you ask here if you don't follow the advices we give? 1286840925 M * ^jan and then used a .config provided by OVH before to launch menuconfig 1286840977 M * Bertl also, why use an old kernel branch ... 1286840986 M * Bertl anyway, off to bed now .. have fun! 1286840986 M * ^jan ops, sorry... I understood taht you wanted a kernel with sources.. and I think is that I did... maybe my english is not enougth to undrstand you 1286840992 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1286841008 M * ^jan ah, because I did not found grsec patch for .34 1286841015 M * ^jan stable patch I mean 1286841066 M * ^jan well, many thanks anyway, you helped me a lot.. sorry again to this missunderstood... :-(