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1284782271 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1284782276 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1284822257 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1284822260 M * Bertl morning folks!
1284822317 M * daniel_hozac good morning Bertl
1284822802 J * dna_ ~dna@dslb-094-222-222-205.pools.arcor-ip.net
1284823167 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: how's going?
1284823179 M * daniel_hozac pretty good. how are you?
1284823204 M * Bertl fine, thanks! just got a new toy (usb microscope :)
1284823219 M * daniel_hozac ah, cool
1284823223 M * daniel_hozac what are you going to be scoping?
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1284823253 M * Bertl mostly for soldering and checking (at least that was the purpose I bought it for)
1284823273 M * daniel_hozac ah okay
1284823307 M * Bertl but you know how that is ... everything within reach was already examined ...
1284823315 M * daniel_hozac hehe
1284823316 M * daniel_hozac of course
1284823370 M * Bertl the resolution is surprisingly good (1600x1200 pixels @10fps)
1284823416 M * Bertl 1280x1024 @30fps, and most importantly it works out of the box in linux :)
1284823478 M * Bertl (digimicro scale 2.0, ~75 EUR)
1284823614 M * daniel_hozac wow.
1284823621 M * daniel_hozac how much does it magnify?
1284823645 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11
1284823662 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg
1284823666 M * Bertl up to 200x (actually it seems to be a little more)
1284823695 M * Bertl but you have to adjust the distance very carefully at this magnification
1284823710 M * daniel_hozac right
1284823735 M * daniel_hozac that's really cool.
1284823779 M * Bertl yeah, I recently saw the previous version (1.3 Mega pixels) on dealextreme for like 35 USD
1284823827 M * sid3windr heh
1284823835 J * dna__ ~dna@dslb-094-222-208-139.pools.arcor-ip.net
1284823837 M * sid3windr dx just advertised something like that on their facebook page I think
1284823879 M * sid3windr ah
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1284823884 M * sid3windr was just a regular microscope, not usb :)
1284823913 M * daniel_hozac 35 USD seems like a really good price... i believe that's about what i paid for my toy microscope when i was a kid.
1284823913 M * Bertl it is really an impressive price for a system like that, considering that it is full color and doesn't seem to have significant distortions 
1284824148 M * Bertl anyway, guess we should update the patches to the latest versions, due to the kernel issues?
1284824251 M * daniel_hozac yeah...
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1284824348 M * daniel_hozac doesn't look like the new patches are out yet though.
1284824652 M * Bertl yeah, I just saw (and wondered ...)
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1284825979 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: is it USB Video Class? :P\
1284826167 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/17439
1284826335 M * pmjdebruijn ah nice
1284826338 M * Bertl as you can see, if you solder a microphone to the device, you can even listen to the bacteria chatter :)
1284826360 M * pmjdebruijn :p
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1284833432 M * matti Hey Bertl 
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1284841608 M * fleischergesell Hey guys - do you know why linuxvserver is going to be deprecated in the next debian release?
1284841644 M * daniel_hozac ask the Debian people.
1284841650 M * Guy- fleischergesell: where did you hear that? (I don't doubt it but would like to know more)
1284841683 M * Guy- of course, what does it matter if Debian deprecates it? normally we rolled our own kernels for Debian too
1284841710 M * daniel_hozac probably for the best.
1284841711 M * fleischergesell well, I was just curious - I got if from this site: http://wiki.debian.org/SystemVirtualization
1284841723 M * daniel_hozac the Debian kernels were horribly bad anyways.
1284841806 M * fleischergesell I just thought you might know - will ask the debian people why they chose to do so
1284841817 M * Guy- fleischergesell: if I had to guess, I'd guess they want to push LXC and OpenVZ instead
1284841850 M * pmjdebruijn the only thing that really is, that there a nicely packaged util-vserver :)
1284841892 M * Guy- pmjdebruijn: yeah, but micah could keep providing it outside of Debian
1284841898 M * pmjdebruijn http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/util-vserver
1284841911 M * pmjdebruijn sure
1284841933 M * pmjdebruijn I always backported my own util-vserver to lenny :)
1284841945 M * pmjdebruijn I do like the packaging quality of the upstream packages
1284841951 M * pmjdebruijn too bad, they lag behind sometimes :)
1284841966 M * daniel_hozac util-vserver comes with packages...
1284841966 M * Guy- like now :)
1284841986 M * pmjdebruijn huh?
1284842036 M * Guy- I mean, micah's util-vserver.deb isn't built from the most recent version currently
1284842037 M * daniel_hozac you can dpkg-buildpackage in a util-vserver source tree.
1284842054 M * daniel_hozac you know, stock.
1284842058 M * pmjdebruijn ah
1284842058 M * pmjdebruijn ok
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1284844392 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1284844397 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1284845571 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: util-vserver trunk doesn't include a Debian changelog; I suppose that's intentional?
1284845633 M * Guy- I see the changelog.in file and the bogus changelog that's being generated from it, but dpkg-buildpackage won't even do that
1284846503 M * pmjdebruijn ouch
1284846512 M * pmjdebruijn this is why I like to stick to Debian originals :)
1284846670 M * Guy- also, the packages it generates fail to configure for me because they invoke update-rc.d with incorrect options
1284846709 M * pmjdebruijn hehe
1284846719 M * pmjdebruijn even then
1284846731 M * pmjdebruijn automating packaging is generally a bad idea
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1284846822 M * Guy- providing the infrastructure that makes it less painful isn't
1284846982 M * Guy- purging the util-vserver-legacy package also fails
1284847008 M * Guy- (for similar reasons)
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