1284345811 Q * niki Quit: Ex-Chat 1284348949 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1284348954 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1284349778 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@91.176.118.154 1284349778 Q * ktwilight Read error: Connection reset by peer 1284355453 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.128.29 1284358063 J * ncopa ~ncopa@180.40.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1284358611 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.171.39 1284358893 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1284362240 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1284362551 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284365037 J * saulus ~david@46.115.165.142 1284365211 M * saulus Hi, I have set up a new host with ubuntu 10.04 lucid. When I follow the hint on http://www.linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues#Running_Ubuntu_Lucid the new guests dont start! If I dont follow that hint, I have problems with upstart in the host... 1284365257 M * saulus ah, now I read it. I probably have forgotten to use --initstyle plain. I will try the hint again... 1284365407 Q * saulus Quit: Lost terminal 1284365710 M * mnemoc hi, does 2.6.35.4-vs2.3.0.36.32 impose a default load limit to guests? i have an unlimited guest (builder) which usually had a sweet load around 16.... now it can't surpass 3.0 1284365821 M * daniel_hozac is that a bad thing? 1284365836 M * daniel_hozac are things taking longer? 1284365851 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284366490 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: well... hard to say.... but when you get a server with a large number of core just for building with a high -j one expect the OS to use them :p 1284366537 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF4712E.dip.t-dialin.net 1284366858 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: can I drop this "artifitial" limit? to compare the build time of linux or gcc 1284366895 M * daniel_hozac there are no default limits as far as i know. 1284366907 M * mnemoc uhm... odd then 1284366943 M * daniel_hozac so make -j99 still doesn't get it past 3? 1284367032 M * mnemoc 2.51, 2.14, 2.19 .... 1284367082 M * mnemoc weird 1284367160 M * mnemoc 3.88 \o/ 1284367163 M * mnemoc :p 1284367313 M * mnemoc maybe .35 is so much super fast that this is the "natural" load for make -j99'ing gcc-4.5.1 1284367903 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1284368128 M * daniel_hozac hehe 1284368144 M * mnemoc :) 1284368147 M * daniel_hozac could just be that they changed the load algorithm. is that in a guest, or on the host? 1284368154 M * mnemoc guest 1284368177 M * daniel_hozac what about the host? 1284368219 M * mnemoc no compiler there 1284368238 M * daniel_hozac well, i meant just checking the load. 1284368291 M * mnemoc sure, but what would you think it's a "fair" way to push the load without compiling? 1284368307 M * daniel_hozac i meant checking the load on the host, while the guest is busy 1284368315 M * mnemoc ah, ok 1284368320 M * mnemoc it's the same... mostly 1284368336 M * mnemoc 2.14, 2.49, 3.22 vs 2.09 2.50 3.24 1284368344 M * daniel_hozac strange... 1284368373 M * daniel_hozac do you have anything running on the host? 1284368429 M * mnemoc an idling glusterfs, dropbear, idling bcron and clockspeed 1284368440 M * daniel_hozac how about if you just chroot to the guest, and run the compile. 1284368447 M * mnemoc good idea 1284368458 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.248.161.59 1284369259 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1284369563 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: got similar load building chroot'ed... i suppose it's all fine and I can pusher the builder harder now :) 1284369577 M * mnemoc s/pusher/push/ 1284369602 M * daniel_hozac if you notice things taking longer than usual, we can look into it more... 1284369787 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: deal 1284371193 Q * PowerKe Remote host closed the connection 1284371513 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1284372928 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1284373575 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1284373852 P * kir Leaving. 1284375151 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1284375218 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF4712E.dip.t-dialin.net 1284377814 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284378517 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1284379001 M * fback hello 1284379049 M * fback daniel_hozac: are there other differencies between your and official debian util-vserver than the init script and guests location? 1284379080 J * petzsch1 ~markus@p4FF4712E.dip.t-dialin.net 1284379170 J * petzsch2 ~markus@p4FF4712E.dip.t-dialin.net 1284379221 Q * petzsch2 1284379424 Q * petzsch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284379563 Q * petzsch1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284379836 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF4712E.dip.t-dialin.net 1284380973 J * radio ~radio@li194-75.members.linode.com 1284381151 M * harry new patch online 1284381157 M * harry better and more evil then ever! ;) 1284381161 M * harry (like every time :)) 1284381838 M * ard fback : it has better support for network namespaces 1284381848 M * harry 1[ 48.704870] vxW: [�sysctl�,6208:#102|102|102] denied 1284381854 M * harry 1284381856 M * ard and functionality is split into multiple packages 1284381871 M * harry [ 47.818453] vxW: [�sysctl�,6111:#102|102|102] denied 22 access to proc:ffff88023ef0da78[#0,4251] 1284381877 M * harry what to do? 1284381882 M * harry vprocunhide is run... 1284381915 A * ard usually ignores those warnings 1284381920 M * fback ard: that's functionality-wise, because it's newer :) 1284381930 M * ard yes :-) 1284381943 A * ard uses daniel_hozac's packaging 1284381961 M * fback ard: and I'm asking about differencies within the same functionality 1284381964 M * ard and I patches the paths back to the debian util-vserver configurations 1284381976 M * ard eh patched the paths back 1284381978 M * fback ard: I'm considering moving to daniel's packages 1284382007 M * ard I moved from debian to daniel_hozacs version without a lot of trouble 1284382030 M * ard just first install the new util-vserver and then dpkg -i *deb 1284382051 M * ard and the /etc/init.d/util-vserver start to make the necessary directories 1284382054 M * fback ard: one has to move /var/lib/vservers to /vservers 1284382061 M * ard well, no 1284382074 M * ard I patched the postinstall scripts 1284382084 M * fback or tweak build script to match debian's version 1284382088 M * ard and it won't touch your existing configuration 1284382152 M * fback what about new guests? 1284382158 M * ard I only edited these: 1284382159 M * ard M debian/control 1284382159 M * ard M debian/util-vserver-build.postinst 1284382159 M * ard M debian/util-vserver.postinst 1284382159 M * ard M debian/util-vserver-sysv.postinst 1284382168 M * ard the first is for python 1284382179 M * ard the remainder is the place of /vservers vs /var/lib/vservers 1284382199 M * ard o, and an old version of update-rc.d :-) 1284382243 M * ard new guests will go to /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase 1284382260 A * harry gets it.. guest trying to start klogd... 1284382263 M * ard which is a symlinkg to /var/lib/vservers, or /vservers, depending on you 1284382305 M * fback ard: would you publish a diff somewhere? 1284382384 M * ard http://paste.linux-vserver.org/17071 1284382411 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.5.135 1284382416 M * ard if you build on lenny, you must also install the debhelpers from backports 1284382462 M * fback nah 1284382490 M * fback squeeze went frozen, I'm mowing towards it 1284382515 M * ard then you must not touch the control file and the util-vserver-sysv.postinst 1284382741 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1284383092 M * fback ard: I've tried it yesterday on sid, I have doubts on python bindings only 1284383100 M * fback package seems to be empty 1284383348 M * daniel_hozac is there a build log? 1284383398 Q * radio Remote host closed the connection 1284383544 M * harry daniel_hozac: when will you create a new rpm of hte latest version of util-vserver? 1284383563 M * daniel_hozac probably fairly soon. 1284383581 M * daniel_hozac actually, i guess i can do that now. 1284383939 J * radio ~radio@li194-75.members.linode.com 1284384089 M * harry sure you can 1284384092 M * harry i have faith (in you) 1284384093 M * harry ;) 1284384293 A * harry wants the x86_64 one :) 1284384299 M * harry centos5 :) 1284384600 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1284384930 M * daniel_hozac you know you can always just rpmbuild -tb the tarball, right? :-) 1284385378 M * fback daniel_hozac: noticed my question? :) 1284385414 M * daniel_hozac fback: i don't know what the Debian package does. 1284385426 M * daniel_hozac its packaged the way the RPMs are packaged. 1284385429 M * fback ack, thanks :) 1284385434 M * daniel_hozac i.e. the way i use it. 1284385463 M * fback daniel_hozac: another thing, I got empty -python package 1284385481 M * fback and python-dev packages are present in the system 1284385507 M * daniel_hozac like i said, are there build logs? 1284385608 M * fback not at my hands right now 1284385636 M * daniel_hozac can't really do anything without those... 1284385640 M * harry daniel_hozac: yeah... but that would mean: installing dietlibc, beecrypt and all the devel crap 1284385652 M * harry and, when you do it, it fits in my package manager thingy 1284385670 M * harry i think/hope you've got scripts that do the entire crap 1284385811 M * fback daniel_hozac: I'll take a look at them later, when I'm back home 1284385860 M * daniel_hozac harry: should be there now... 1284385950 M * harry tnx 1284385963 M * daniel_hozac let me know how it goes :-) 1284385990 M * harry 0.30.216-1.pre2914.el5 1284385992 M * harry wiiiiiiiii 1284386021 M * harry perfecxt 1284386023 M * harry perfect 1284386027 M * harry tnx 1284386177 Q * radio Remote host closed the connection 1284386526 J * dreamind ~dreamind@mx01.ap-wdsl.de 1284386552 M * dreamind Hi folks :) 1284386593 M * dreamind hi daniel_hozac :) 1284386622 M * daniel_hozac try pre2914 1284386626 M * daniel_hozac works here with your kind of scenario. 1284386674 M * dreamind with the reaonly mount binds? :) 1284386705 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: ok so I'll try, thanks :) 1284386706 M * daniel_hozac yep 1284386797 J * radio ~radio@li194-75.members.linode.com 1284387458 J * geb ~geb@mars.gebura.eu.org 1284389346 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1284389363 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: ok rw binds for / work now, but still not ro mount binds :( 1284389379 M * dreamind they *appear* to work, but when you start the vserver and enter it, you still can touch /foobar 1284389396 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284389609 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1284390286 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1284391282 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF4712E.dip.t-dialin.net 1284391622 J * eja ~user@75.110.195.31 1284391696 M * eja Hi Guys, I'm trying to get dhcpd setup in a vserver but am getting the "Open a socket for LPF: Operation not permitted". i read that i need to add the IPROOTBCAST=255.255.255.255 option but i'm not sure where to put this. 1284391742 M * Guy- eja: I'm guessing what you really need is the raw socket capability, if this is the isc dhcp daemon (CAP_NET_RAW oslt) 1284391771 M * Guy- eja: strace dhcpd and find the socket call that returns EPERM, that should help 1284391812 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1284392079 Q * BenG Remote host closed the connection 1284392096 M * eja so I need to add s_caps="cap_net_raw" into /etc/vservers/ns1.conf? 1284393326 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection 1284393439 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1284393567 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection 1284393576 M * eja i'm trying to build the latest version of util-vserver and i get "configure: error: internal error" 1284394662 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1284394806 M * eja fails right after "checking for NSS... no" 1284394849 J * dna ~dna@dslb-094-223-163-004.pools.arcor-ip.net 1284395299 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:a18:1:1402:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1284395471 M * dreamind eja: you should install something like libnss3-dev 1284395491 M * dreamind (on debian based systems at least, dunno how its called on other systems) 1284395515 M * eja dreamind: says it's already installed. 1284395519 Q * fback Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284395560 M * dreamind hm 1284395742 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1284395968 M * eja yeah i don't get it. 1284396113 Q * fback Read error: Connection reset by peer 1284396176 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1284397967 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1284397986 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF4712E.dip.t-dialin.net 1284398005 Q * petzsch 1284398351 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1284398501 M * eja how do i specify where dietlibc source is when building util-vserver? the included version in ubuntu 10 is too old. 1284399276 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284399370 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF4712E.dip.t-dialin.net 1284399820 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.166.161.105 1284400307 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284400578 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1284401128 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284401438 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1284401718 Q * mkeza Remote host closed the connection 1284401720 J * mkeza mike@user.custhost.se 1284401996 P * dreamind 1284402172 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284402769 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1284403402 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1284403418 J * Piet ~Piet__@7R1AAC3NR.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1284403773 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1284403811 N * ensc Guest651 1284403819 Q * Guest651 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1284403821 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1284404152 J * ghislain1 ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1284404468 Q * ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284404474 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1284405009 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.197.153 1284405037 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1284405045 M * Bertl morning folks! 1284405100 M * Bertl eja: dietlibc basically consists of a binary which is prepended to the gcc to 'adjust' the necessary things to build with a static library 1284405151 M * Bertl eja: using the 'proper' 'diet' prefix will use the dietlibc of your choice, but there is no point in having several of them, especially if the ubuntu one is broken 1284405288 M * Bertl regarding IPBROADCAST=, that was more than half a decade ago with ancient tools on 2.2/2.4 kernels, the config used today is described on the 'Great Flower Page' (linked from the wiki, but easy to google as well) 1284405552 M * Bertl ghislain1: you've got email 1284405567 J * PowerKe ~tom@94-224-78-13.access.telenet.be 1284405866 Q * thierryp Read error: No route to host 1284406077 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d062194.adsl.hansenet.de 1284407711 M * eja thanks Bertl. I think i've got it working now. although i'm still getting "vc_rlimit_stat(RLIMIT_AS): Invalid argument" when running vserver-stat. i thought upgrading to the latest util-vserver would fix that. 1284407728 M * daniel_hozac yep 1284407733 M * daniel_hozac it does. 1284407789 M * eja is there a way to see which vserver-stat version i'm using? 1284407971 M * daniel_hozac vserver-stat --version 1284408329 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1284408390 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-99-240.iusacell.net 1284409281 M * Alteisen hi, i could use some help for choosing an appropriate io scheduler - which one is best for a vserver environment? host is on a cf card, /vservers on a MLC SSD, and the "storage" is an external USB notebook harddisk. 1284409298 M * Alteisen host has a geode lx cpu, and 256 MB RAM 1284409302 M * Alteisen any suggestions? 1284409317 M * Alteisen no databases 1284409347 M * Alteisen just mail, www, files and some smaller network services as dhcp 1284409558 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284409735 M * Bertl probably a batch type scheduler, no interactive response rewquired there 1284409841 M * Alteisen that would be deadline then? 1284409850 M * Bertl yep 1284409870 M * Alteisen ok, i'll try that then - thanks 1284409877 M * Bertl np 1284410766 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1284411562 N * ensc Guest665 1284411562 Q * Guest665 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1284411572 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1284411597 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1284411699 Q * cuba33ci_ Read error: Operation timed out 1284411857 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@111-240-211-243.dynamic.hinet.net 1284412128 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1284412474 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1284412913 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284413189 J * dna_ ~dna@dslb-088-074-203-104.pools.arcor-ip.net 1284413200 Q * dna_ 1284413218 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1284413240 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.161.165 1284413613 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284414007 M * Alteisen what does CONFIG_VSERVER_CONTEXTS do? it is configured to 256. Is that the max number of vserver guests? 1284414088 M * Bertl it is a hint to the kernel to adjust tables and per cpu allocation properly 1284414105 M * Bertl it usually isn't a strict upper limit, more a guarantee 1284414166 M * Alteisen i only have one cpu 1284414205 M * Bertl okay? so you probably want to disable SMP then 1284414260 M * Alteisen it is already disabled :) 1284414280 M * Bertl prefect then, how many guests do you plan to have? 1284414300 M * Alteisen not more than 10 1284414316 M * Bertl then probably setting this to 16 should be fine 1284414354 M * Alteisen so i need 1 context per vserver guest? 1284414361 M * Bertl yep 1284414460 M * Alteisen is there a 2, 4, 8, 16... 256 or somewhat rule in it? 1284414462 M * fback daniel_hozac: it found python, but later denied to build the bindings. 1284414596 M * daniel_hozac where's the log? 1284414618 M * fback daniel_hozac: i'll upload it shortly 1284414707 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1284414764 M * fback daniel_hozac: http://people.fback.net/fb/log.txt 1284414832 M * daniel_hozac you don't have ctags 1284414839 M * daniel_hozac ctags is required for the python bindings. 1284414846 M * fback %-) 1284414878 M * daniel_hozac " python bindings: no" 1284414947 M * fback i saw this 1284414969 M * fback but would not connect it with missing ctags 1284414989 M * fback rebuilding, thank you :) 1284415074 M * fback (and good night) 1284415276 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1284415488 Q * BenG 1284416224 J * PhatJ ~PhatJ@68-188-223-75.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com 1284416667 M * PhatJ is there a recommended way i can give a guest a /dev/ram0 and use it ? 1284416693 M * daniel_hozac use it for...? 1284416717 M * Bertl you can simply copy the device node into the guest (or create it in the guest tree) but be aware of the security implications 1284416888 M * PhatJ im using asterisk to playback files - and believe i'm slamming the i/o 1284416902 M * PhatJ political robo dialing :) (primary tomorrow) 1284416903 M * Bertl then tmpfs would be a better choice 1284416908 M * PhatJ oh 1284416917 M * PhatJ how create? 1284416921 M * Bertl it just allocates what is actually used 1284416921 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1284416934 M * Bertl doesn't need a filesystem (vfs based) 1284416948 M * Bertl and you probably already have one on /tmp :) 1284416955 M * Bertl (limited to 16M by default) 1284416958 M * PhatJ oh - hmm 1284416973 M * Bertl but you can create another one with a simple fstab (guest config) entry 1284416987 M * Bertl (with custom limits or no limit at all) 1284416997 M * PhatJ already had to bump /tmp way up for mysql crap 1284417033 M * Bertl so basically copy the line you already changed, and set a new path 1284417149 M * PhatJ totally 1284417273 M * PhatJ moving the file(s) to tmpfs seems to have helped (now have a lower load avg) 1284417341 M * PhatJ would we want to do a tmpfs with noatime option ? 1284417378 M * Bertl noatime always helps (don't forget nodiratime :) 1284417480 M * PhatJ is there a way we can make those changes to a guest's /tmp without rebooting ? 1284417484 M * PhatJ er restarting guest 1284417505 M * Bertl yes, just do it in the guest's filesystem/mount namespace 1284417962 M * PhatJ mount: permission denied 1284417969 M * PhatJ # mount -o remount,exec /tmp 1284418134 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1284418864 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-99-240.iusacell.net 1284418882 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1284419488 Q * ghislain1 Quit: Leaving. 1284420179 M * Bertl vnamespace is what you want to use