1283472962 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1283473945 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283474548 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.11.16 1283476225 J * theocrit1 ~Hubert@kim.theocrite.org 1283476231 Q * theocrite Read error: Connection reset by peer 1283476974 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283477360 Q * j27Z2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283477529 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.17.26 1283477625 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283478714 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283479246 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.17.26 1283481903 Q * trippeh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283482589 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no 1283482827 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1283483559 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.36.32 1283484147 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.116.140.243 1283484666 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1283484669 M * Bertl morning folks! 1283485433 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving 1283486665 J * ichavero_ ~ichavero@201.116.140.243 1283486937 J * trippeh_ atomt@uff.ugh.no 1283486940 Q * trippeh_ 1283487084 Q * imcsk8 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283488647 Q * ichavero_ Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1283488973 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283489787 N * neofutur_ neofutur 1283490011 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.128.29 1283491469 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1283491473 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1283492223 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1283493935 J * ncopa ~ncopa@180.40.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1283494061 J * j27Z2 ~x@28IAABRUL.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1283494074 P * kbad 1283494890 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283495808 J * swenTjuln ~kvirc@217.72.66.253 1283497007 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1283500118 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1283500245 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1283501062 J * jonbwhite ~Adium@ivr94-3-89-87-46-56.dsl.club-internet.fr 1283501753 J * nou Chaton@2001:6f8:328:bbc:6666:6667:: 1283501830 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1283502941 M * jonbwhite hi everyone 1283502970 M * jonbwhite i'm running into a problem with util-vserver running on an armel architecture 1283503033 M * jonbwhite when i try to start a vserver i get the following: 1283503034 M * jonbwhite vserver test1 start 1283503034 M * jonbwhite /lib/util-vserver/functions: line 506: 1580 Segmentation fault $_VSERVER_INFO - FEATURE namespace 1283503034 M * jonbwhite /lib/util-vserver/functions: line 916: 1603 Segmentation fault $_VSERVER_INFO - FEATURE vshelper 1283503034 M * jonbwhite /lib/util-vserver/vserver.functions: line 1136: 1605 Segmentation fault $_VSERVER_INFO - VERIFYPROC 1283503034 M * jonbwhite /proc/uptime can not be accessed. Usually, this is caused by 1283503036 M * jonbwhite procfs-security. Please read the FAQ for more details 1283503036 M * jonbwhite http://linux-vserver.org/Proc-Security 1283503057 M * jonbwhite and if I try to enable vprocunhide i get this: 1283503059 M * jonbwhite /etc/init.d/vprocunhide start 1283503059 M * jonbwhite /etc/init.d/vprocunhide: line 15: 1607 Segmentation fault $_VSERVER_INFO - FEATURE iattr 1283503074 M * jonbwhite any ideas? 1283503147 M * jonbwhite uname -a 1283503147 M * jonbwhite Linux NASC00C2F 2.6.32.19-vs2.3.0.36.29.6 #2 Thu Sep 2 10:40:03 CEST 2010 armv5tel GNU/Linux 1283503689 M * jonbwhite configure output here: http://pastebin.com/L8Ukw2ai 1283504258 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283504565 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1283504918 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1283506157 M * jonbwhite anyone here? 1283506157 Q * ktwilight__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1283506301 J * ktwilight ~keliew@91.176.39.105 1283506667 M * BenG I'm here 1283506701 M * BenG which platform are you on jonbwhite 1283506703 M * BenG ? 1283506711 M * jonbwhite hi 1283506727 M * jonbwhite I'm on an armel architecture 1283506732 M * BenG OS? 1283506743 M * jonbwhite debian lenny 1283506754 M * jonbwhite uname -a 1283506754 M * jonbwhite Linux NASC00C2F 2.6.32.19-vs2.3.0.36.29.6 #2 Thu Sep 2 10:40:03 CEST 2010 armv5tel GNU/Linux 1283506778 M * BenG with lenny's util-vserver? 1283506792 M * jonbwhite no, it doesn't support armel 1283506802 M * jonbwhite i compiled from the source, but it segfaults 1283506809 M * BenG yuck 1283506815 M * jonbwhite yup 1283506825 M * BenG the latest one? 1283506871 M * BenG and that's your own build of the kernel too? 1283506872 M * jonbwhite i've tried 0.30.215 and 0.30.216 1283506875 M * jonbwhite yea 1283506910 M * BenG sorry, I have no experience of this platform 1283506919 M * jonbwhite i don't know if it's the kernel or util-vserver 1283506928 M * BenG indeed 1283506942 M * jonbwhite yea i don't think it's very common for people to try to put vserver on arm haha 1283506965 M * jonbwhite is there any way to check the kernel feature set separately from util-vserver? 1283507046 M * BenG you can try out all the individual commands I guess 1283507077 M * BenG vnamespace, vattribute etc 1283507112 M * BenG well, that's util-vserver isn't it 1283507114 M * BenG err... 1283507124 M * jonbwhite yea :-/ 1283507134 M * jonbwhite they are kind of inseparable i guess 1283507135 M * BenG what does vnamespace --help 1283507137 M * BenG do for you 1283507138 M * BenG ? 1283507139 Q * ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283507157 M * jonbwhite vnamespace --help 1283507158 M * jonbwhite Usage: vnamespace [--] [ *] 1283507158 M * jonbwhite can be one of: 1283507158 M * jonbwhite --new|-n ... create new namespace and execute there; 1283507158 M * jonbwhite is mandatory in this case 1283507158 M * jonbwhite --enter|-e ... enter the namespace of context and execute 1283507160 M * jonbwhite there; is mandatory in this 1283507160 M * jonbwhite case 1283507162 M * jonbwhite --set|-s ... make current namespace the namespace of the 1283507162 M * jonbwhite current context 1283507164 M * jonbwhite --cleanup|-c ... remove all mounts from the namespace of the 1283507164 M * jonbwhite current context 1283507166 M * jonbwhite Please report bugs to vserver@list.linux-vserver.org 1283507183 M * BenG so some bits work then 1283507207 M * BenG do you have a working version for comparison? 1283507209 M * jonbwhite yea, but if i try to make a new namespace then it segfaults again 1283507219 M * jonbwhite on a different machine/arch yea 1283507339 M * jonbwhite i think it is util-vserver because on the other machine i can run vnamespace --new ls on a non-vserver kernel and it still works 1283507352 M * BenG make sense 1283507355 M * jonbwhite and on my machine it segfaults no matter the kernel 1283507361 M * jonbwhite my arm machine * 1283507371 M * BenG I guess there's reason util-vserver isn't packaged for armel 1283507377 M * BenG even in squeeze 1283507391 M * jonbwhite it used to be packaged for arm 1283507407 M * jonbwhite argh 1283507424 M * BenG there's a squeeze package for util-vserver on arm 1283507434 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1283507451 M * jonbwhite it won't let me install it since my arch is technically armel 1283507465 M * jonbwhite is there a way to force it, or would it just not work? 1283507471 M * BenG no idea 1283507484 M * BenG they are different architectures 1283507500 M * BenG you could build the package from source 1283507509 M * jonbwhite i don't exactly understand the difference between arm and armel 1283507514 M * jonbwhite i tried that 1283507530 M * BenG using apt-build? 1283507541 M * jonbwhite not apt-build, no 1283507552 M * jonbwhite i just compiled the source from the source package 1283507565 M * jonbwhite after applying the debian patch etc 1283507574 M * BenG right yeah 1283507609 M * jonbwhite actually it originally wouldn't compile 1283507616 M * jonbwhite but i tried it again and it worked fine 1283507654 N * menomc mnemoc 1283507655 M * BenG apparently arm and armel have different ABIs, so the binaries will most certainly not work 1283507668 M * jonbwhite ok 1283507758 M * jonbwhite the only thing i can see that's different from the debian pkg is that i'm not using dietlibc, just regular libc 1283507768 Q * j27Z2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283507800 M * BenG I seem to remember that being a problem for compiling on lenny, couldy memory though 1283507813 M * BenG s/couldy/cloudy/ 1283507853 M * jonbwhite i tried compiling dietlibc and it didn't immediately compile so i gave up on it 1283507860 M * jonbwhite maybe i should pursue that a bit more 1283507895 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1283507903 M * BenG I'd like to know why util-vserver isn't built for armel in squeeze 1283507927 M * jonbwhite me too 1283507985 M * BenG oh, I can't find it for arm now either! 1283508015 M * jonbwhite "Debian fully supports a port to little-endian ARM. The http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort (armel) port has been integrated in Debian and the old (arm) port is deprecated." 1283508044 M * jonbwhite i think they are transitioning 1283508080 M * BenG right 1283508093 M * BenG there's been a few posts about the build server for arm recently too 1283508109 M * jonbwhite leaving holes for me to fall into 1283508245 M * jonbwhite would it make any sense for me to try to compile an older version? 1283508257 J * nkukard_ ~nkukard@41-133-203-237.dsl.mweb.co.za 1283508271 M * BenG of the kernel or util-vserver? 1283508283 M * jonbwhite util-vserver 1283508322 M * jonbwhite i mean, i think that's where the problem is 1283508329 M * jonbwhite the kernel seems to be running fine otherwise 1283508378 M * BenG I guess it would be good to see if the compilation is the issue, a bit of a faff though 1283508427 M * jonbwhite yea, i think i'm going to play around with dietlibc first before i do that 1283508439 M * BenG that's probably the best course 1283508460 M * BenG I think asking Deb developers and the vserver mailing list too would be useful 1283508517 M * jonbwhite yea i think i'll do that too 1283508584 M * jonbwhite thanks for the help BenG 1283508590 M * jonbwhite are you in the UK? 1283508593 M * BenG yep 1283508607 M * BenG I hope you can get some better help frankly!! 1283508631 M * jonbwhite haha thanks, we'll see how far i get 1283508638 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283508640 M * BenG good luck 1283508643 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1283510236 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1283510408 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1283510417 M * Bertl jonbwhite: what's the problem? 1283510467 M * jonbwhite hi Bertl, having some issues with util-vserver on the armel architecture 1283510501 M * Bertl you are building with dietlibc? 1283510506 M * jonbwhite it compiles but then segfaults whenever anything is run 1283510509 M * jonbwhite no 1283510516 M * Bertl you definitely should 1283510525 M * jonbwhite standard dietlibc doesn't compile on my arch 1283510534 M * Bertl how so? 1283510553 M * jonbwhite however i just checked out the CVS and it seems to be building 1283510582 M * Bertl probably just your debian package is broken 1283510587 M * jonbwhite there was a serious error during compilation before but seems to be fixed in the latest version 1283510614 M * jonbwhite yea, no debian packages currently for dietlibc/armel 1283510626 M * jonbwhite i think this is why there is no vserver-util package for armel as well 1283510643 M * Bertl most likely, but you have the sources :) 1283510671 M * jonbwhite well let's see how this now-compiling dietlibc goes 1283510725 M * jonbwhite from the source, how would I get the equivalent of the dietlibc-dev package setup? 1283510765 M * Bertl I'd say, with proper config, make install should do the trick 1283510860 J * killerbees19 KB19@static.88-198-144-84.clients.your-server.de 1283510937 M * Bertl dietlibc is not required once utilß-vserver has been built, i.e. it compiles statically 1283510969 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@91.176.37.194 1283511051 M * Bertl what platform is that btw, xscale? 1283511065 M * jonbwhite marvell kirkwood 1283511126 M * Bertl ah, ala shiva plug ... 1283511135 M * jonbwhite yup 1283511136 M * Bertl *sheevaPlug 1283511147 M * Bertl nice 1283511154 M * jonbwhite so dietlibc compiled fine 1283511168 M * jonbwhite but now when building util-vserver i get the following error 1283511183 M * jonbwhite make[2]: Entering directory `/root/vserver/util-vserver-0.30.215' 1283511183 M * jonbwhite diet -Os gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I ./lib -I ./ensc_wrappers -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -DNDEBUG -g -O2 -std=c99 -Wall -pedantic -W -funit-at-a-time -MT lib/lib_libvserver_a-syscall.o -MD -MP -MF lib/.deps/lib_libvserver_a-syscall.Tpo -c -o lib/lib_libvserver_a-syscall.o `test -f 'lib/syscall.c' || echo './'`lib/syscall.c 1283511183 M * jonbwhite cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-meabi=4" 1283511226 M * Bertl hmm, where does that come from? 1283511264 M * Bertl i.e. I don't see it on the gcc invocation 1283511269 M * jonbwhite yea i know 1283511278 M * jonbwhite weird 1283511283 M * Bertl so probably from the toolchain 1283511388 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283511415 M * jonbwhite the toolchain? 1283511438 J * ktwilight ~keliew@91.176.6.41 1283511463 M * Bertl gcc basically 1283511475 M * jonbwhite ah 1283511480 M * Bertl have to leave now, but should be back soon 1283511486 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1283511663 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283512263 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@91.176.138.246 1283512563 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283512777 M * jonbwhite this -meabi option comes up with cross compilation, but i'm compiling natively 1283513548 Q * killerbees19 synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283513548 Q * barismetin synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283513548 Q * FireEgl synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283513548 Q * micah synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283513548 Q * jrdnyquist synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283513548 Q * dannf synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283513622 J * killerbees19 KB19@static.88-198-144-84.clients.your-server.de 1283513622 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1283513622 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1283513622 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1283513622 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1283513622 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1283514311 Q * sharkjaw Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283516068 Q * jrdnyquist synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283516068 Q * micah synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283516068 Q * dannf synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283516068 Q * killerbees19 synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283516068 Q * FireEgl synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283516068 Q * barismetin synthon.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283516111 J * killerbees19 KB19@static.88-198-144-84.clients.your-server.de 1283516111 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1283516111 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1283516111 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1283516111 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1283516111 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1283516864 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1283516876 M * Bertl jonbwhite: try to build the toolchain yourself 1283516902 M * jonbwhite i'm building this natively 1283516919 M * jonbwhite shouldn't that take care of it? 1283517047 M * Bertl the question is, does building anything actually work? 1283517066 M * Bertl i.e. did you e.g. rebuild a package on the system 1283517099 M * jonbwhite i built the kernel on the system 1283517454 M * Bertl hmm, anything userspace? 1283517510 M * jonbwhite well, dietlibc also 1283517538 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1283517778 M * daniel_hozac diet may be inserting it. 1283517785 M * daniel_hozac it alters the arguments. 1283517859 M * daniel_hozac try e.g. diet -Os gcc -c -o hello-world.o hello-world.c 1283517872 M * jonbwhite hmm, so is this again back to the fact that diet is not really supported for this arch? 1283517892 M * daniel_hozac that'd surprise me. 1283517902 M * daniel_hozac but wouldn't be entirely unexpected... 1283517913 M * daniel_hozac we've had to fix other architectures in the past. 1283517973 M * jonbwhite yup same output 1283517981 M * jonbwhite diet -Os gcc -c -o helloworld.o helloworld.c 1283517981 M * jonbwhite cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-meabi=4" 1283518283 M * jonbwhite hmm when o try to build the helloworld just using gcc it says "cannot execute binary file" 1283518338 M * jonbwhite nm 1283518347 M * daniel_hozac are you sure your toolchain is correct? 1283518358 M * jonbwhite yes i just got it to work, i had an extraneous cmd line arg 1283518388 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1283518534 M * jonbwhite why is diet adding -meabi=4? 1283518536 M * jonbwhite diet -Os gcc -o helloworld.o helloworld.c 1283518536 M * jonbwhite cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-meabi=4" 1283518611 M * urbee how come vmware can limit the memory usage and vserver has only RSS & VSZ? 1283518625 M * urbee i mean its impossible to calculate the memory limit from that isnt it? 1283518645 M * urbee if i have 1 gb of phisical RAM and i want only 512MB for a guest 1283518653 M * urbee the exact amount 1283518659 M * urbee its impossible isnt it? 1283518736 M * jonbwhite hmm so if i just do 'diet gcc -i helloworld.o helloworld.c' it works fine 1283518743 M * jonbwhite what does the -Os do? 1283518787 M * Bertl optimize for size 1283518810 M * jonbwhite hmm 1283518827 M * jonbwhite can i just strip this from the diet calls for util-vserver? 1283518841 M * Bertl sure 1283518874 M * Bertl urbee: sure it is possible 1283518897 M * Bertl urbee: but usually you don't want to do that :) 1283519050 M * urbee how come? 1283519063 M * jonbwhite hmm, what's the easiest way to find and replace calls to diet -Os in util-vserver? 1283519178 M * Bertl probably a wrapper for the diet command which strips i 1283519180 M * Bertl +t 1283519204 M * jonbwhite yea haha that does seem like the easiest way 1283519243 M * Bertl urbee: memory partitioning, cgroups and memory management 1283519263 M * urbee Bertl: why is that a bad idea? 1283519280 M * Bertl because you lose the advantage of shared resources 1283519289 M * Bertl (caches, buffers, mappings= 1283519322 M * urbee so basicly it "reserves" the memory for that guest 1283519330 M * urbee and host & other guests cant use it? 1283519652 M * urbee :) 1283519966 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection 1283520058 J * Piet ~Piet__@7R1AACY0X.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1283520258 Q * jrdnyquist reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283520258 Q * micah reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283520258 Q * dannf reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283520258 Q * killerbees19 reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283520258 Q * FireEgl reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283520258 Q * barismetin reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1283520316 J * killerbees19 KB19@static.88-198-144-84.clients.your-server.de 1283520316 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1283520316 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1283520316 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1283520316 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1283520316 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1283520637 N * DreamerC_ DreamerC 1283520672 N * monrad monrad-51468 1283521031 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1283521862 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1283522074 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fee0:9872 1283522748 M * jonbwhite gah 1283522771 M * jonbwhite so getting rid of the -meabi flag in diet got me much further 1283522790 M * jonbwhite but now compiling util-vserver gives me this 1283522792 M * jonbwhite diet -Os gcc -g -O2 -std=c99 -Wall -pedantic -W -funit-at-a-time -o src/filetime src/filetime.o lib/libvserver.a 1283522792 M * jonbwhite src/filetime.o: In function `main': 1283522792 M * jonbwhite /root/vserver/util-vserver-0.30.215/src/filetime.c:74: undefined reference to `time' 1283523011 M * jonbwhite this is killing me 1283523126 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.215? 1283523131 M * daniel_hozac that's pretty old. 1283523132 M * jonbwhite yea 1283523140 M * jonbwhite it is? 1283523148 M * daniel_hozac about 2 years, i believe. 1283523192 M * jonbwhite it's the current version 1283523217 M * daniel_hozac only because i've been time-challenged to do another one. 1283523218 M * jonbwhite i can try with the 216 i have 1283523224 M * jonbwhite ah 1283523224 M * daniel_hozac you want 0.30.216-pre2913 1283523317 M * jonbwhite i'm trying to compile on a marvell kirkwood (armel arch) 1283523385 M * jonbwhite i succeeded using standard libc, but then it segfaulted when i tried to do anything 1283523399 M * daniel_hozac "anything"? 1283523416 M * daniel_hozac IIRC 0.30.215 had a bug that would segfault glibc when starting guests. 1283523438 M * jonbwhite it did happen when starting guests but not just there 1283523475 M * jonbwhite also saw the same for 216-pre2772 1283523586 M * jonbwhite honestly i'm not sure if my problems are bc of the kernel or util-vserver 1283523787 M * Bertl what kernel/patch? 1283523813 M * jonbwhite uname -a 1283523813 M * jonbwhite Linux NASC00C2F 2.6.32.19-vs2.3.0.36.29.6 #2 Thu Sep 2 10:40:03 CEST 2010 armv5tel GNU/Linux 1283523825 M * Bertl should be fine 1283523825 J * derjohn_mob aj@88.128.184.32 1283523926 M * matti Hey Bertl 1283524014 M * jonbwhite same error 1283524029 M * jonbwhite diet -Os gcc -g -O2 -std=c99 -Wall -pedantic -W -funit-at-a-time -o src/filetime src/filetime.o lib/libvserver.a 1283524029 M * jonbwhite src/filetime.o: In function `main': 1283524029 M * jonbwhite /root/vserver/util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2913/src/filetime.c:74: undefined reference to `time' 1283524029 M * jonbwhite collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 1283524173 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl 1283524189 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1283524256 M * jonbwhite fyi daniel, for the one I managed to compile, this is what happens: 1283524269 M * jonbwhite when i try to start a vserver i get the following: 1283524269 M * jonbwhite 10:37 1283524269 M * jonbwhite vserver test1 start 1283524269 M * jonbwhite /lib/util-vserver/functions: line 506:  1580 Segmentation fault      $_VSERVER_INFO - FEATURE namespace 1283524269 M * jonbwhite /lib/util-vserver/functions: line 916:  1603 Segmentation fault      $_VSERVER_INFO - FEATURE vshelper 1283524270 M * jonbwhite /lib/util-vserver/vserver.functions: line 1136:  1605 Segmentation fault      $_VSERVER_INFO - VERIFYPROC 1283524270 M * jonbwhite /proc/uptime can not be accessed. Usually, this is caused by 1283524272 M * jonbwhite procfs-security. Please read the FAQ for more details 1283524272 M * jonbwhite http://linux-vserver.org/Proc-Security 1283524274 M * jonbwhite 10:37 1283524274 M * jonbwhite and if I try to enable vprocunhide i get this: 1283524276 M * jonbwhite 10:37 1283524276 M * jonbwhite  /etc/init.d/vprocunhide start 1283524278 M * jonbwhite /etc/init.d/vprocunhide: line 15:  1607 Segmentation fault      $_VSERVER_INFO - FEATURE iattr 1283524280 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF47A37.dip.t-dialin.net 1283524865 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1283526548 M * jonbwhite finally 1283526554 M * jonbwhite well, i'm closer at least 1283526556 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1283526821 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1283527006 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1283527207 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1283527782 J * ghislain1 ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1283527808 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1283527944 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1283528121 Q * ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283528156 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283528384 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.5.165 1283528580 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1283528965 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1283529662 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B5316.dip.t-dialin.net 1283530944 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1283531126 Q * jonbwhite Quit: Leaving. 1283531307 J * jonbwhite ~jbw@ivr94-3-89-87-46-56.dsl.club-internet.fr 1283531646 N * zbyniu_ zbyniu 1283532010 M * urbee is it possible to run vserver-linux AND vmware server on the same machine? 1283532160 M * urbee Bertl_oO, derjohn_mob' 1283532252 M * Alteisen urbee: yes 1283532324 M * Alteisen urbee: if you want, you can also run linux-vserver, vmware server and virtualbox on the same host 1283532369 M * Alteisen or put a linux-vserver into a vmware-server 1283532369 M * urbee great 1283532380 M * urbee then i dont need an extra machine :p 1283532397 M * urbee and not so great since i've just made myself a whole friday night of work 1283532459 M * urbee :p 1283532631 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:a18:1:1402:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1283533210 Q * jonbwhite Quit: Leaving. 1283535446 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1283535789 Q * ViRUS Quit: If there is Artificial Intelligence, then there's bound to be some artificial stupidity. (Thomas Edison) 1283536172 Q * jkl Remote host closed the connection 1283536501 J * alex_ ~Alexander@p5DD61C90.dip.t-dialin.net 1283536507 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1283536943 Q * AlexanderS Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283537431 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1283537753 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283540675 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.19.110 1283540957 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1283540979 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.172.0 1283541316 J * jonbwhite ~jbw@ivr94-3-89-87-46-56.dsl.club-internet.fr 1283541394 Q * jonbwhite 1283545430 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1283546012 Q * MooingLemur Remote host closed the connection 1283546321 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF47A37.dip.t-dialin.net 1283546626 Q * petzsch Read error: Connection reset by peer 1283547895 J * MooingLemur ~troy@shells195.pinchaser.com 1283547976 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1283548306 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1283548783 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1283550653 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:470:e056:1:5cfc:3a69:bc02:8a94 1283551033 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1283551551 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283552101 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.12.184 1283552126 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1283552609 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1283553655 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF4684D.dip.t-dialin.net 1283557913 Q * petzsch Read error: Connection reset by peer