1282438653 J * zbyniu_ ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1282438677 Q * zbyniu Quit: leaving 1282438914 N * zbyniu_ zbyniu 1282452616 J * ktwilight ~keliew@91.176.50.237 1282452845 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1282453210 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.9.27 1282455100 Q * fLoo^ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1282457818 Q * DreamerC Remote host closed the connection 1282457831 J * DreamerC ~DreamerC@122-116-181-118.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1282457912 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1282458592 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1282461769 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1282464327 J * tanuk kaskinen@mozart.cc.tut.fi 1282466007 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1282466085 J * tuxmania ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1282466089 Q * tuxmania Remote host closed the connection 1282467315 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF47F82.dip.t-dialin.net 1282469984 Q * Hollow Quit: leaving 1282469990 J * Hollow ~bene@shiva.xnull.de 1282478897 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1282479076 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.114.207 1282482156 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.28.21.111 1282482599 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1282484041 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF47F82.dip.t-dialin.net 1282487454 Q * tanuk Write error: connection closed 1282487464 J * tanuk kaskinen@mozart.cc.tut.fi 1282489383 J * petzsch1 ~markus@p4FF45348.dip.t-dialin.net 1282489743 Q * petzsch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1282490504 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1282490535 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1282490547 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.87.92 1282491185 Q * harobed Remote host closed the connection 1282491334 J * urbee1 ~urbee1@91.185.193.90 1282491336 M * urbee1 hoi 1282491667 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF45348.dip.t-dialin.net 1282492083 Q * petzsch1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1282492824 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1282492998 Q * manana Read error: Connection reset by peer 1282493177 M * Hollow Bertl: i'm writing a short part (the linux-vserver part obviously ;-)) of an article about virtualization technologies. do you recall why mainline did not want to merge the linux vserver patch back then? 1282493488 M * Bertl IIRC, the first argument was that the code and kernel interface is not appropriate 1282493509 M * Bertl then, rick v. riel reserved the Linux-VServer system call for us 1282493544 M * Bertl after that, it was mostly the argument that the kernel coding style is not adhered and that the patch is too large to be integrated as one piece 1282493584 M * Bertl we then did break down the patch into small (40-50) specific patches and cleaned up most of the coding style issues 1282493733 M * Bertl during the OLPC security work, we ironed out the last few coding style issues and it almost got included (the security system used by OLPC was based on Linux-VServer), but then they decided to drop security and that's basically it 1282493790 M * Bertl lateron, when OS isolation was a topic for the main Linux kernel developers, OVZ was already there, and for political reasons, nobody wanted to make a decisison, so a new isolation project was designed 1282493849 M * Hollow ok, that's basically what lxc and its kernel parts are nowadays, right? 1282493853 M * Bertl the funny part regarding the kernel interface is that I'm really glad we chose the interface we have now, because it provided all the flexibility we needed without causing major grief or userspace breakage 1282493884 M * Bertl and another funny detail is that when we asked what interface we should use, we got a different answer from each mainline kernel developer 1282493896 M * Bertl the only thing they agreed upon was that ioctls are bad 1282493897 M * Hollow yeah, i always liked the syscall interface 1282493916 M * Hollow but i know that ioctl argument 1282493938 M * Hollow ok, thanks for the explanations :) 1282493942 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1282493959 M * Bertl and yes, lxc is what the isolation project is called now 1282493984 M * Bertl it started with something different which I do not remember 1282493996 M * urbee1 vxW: [»ps«,5864:#1001|1001|1001] did lookup hidden devpts:ffff88061f4caac0[#0,4] »/dev/pts/1«. 1282494002 M * urbee1 whats this? in messages 1282494012 M * urbee1 for the past 5 hours i've been getting random reboots of my host machine 1282494016 M * Bertl a warning, thus the 'W' 1282494018 M * urbee1 could it be somehow vserver related? 1282494033 M * Bertl yes, it _is_ a warning generated by Linux-VServer 1282494033 M * urbee1 i have checked the hardware with diagnostics, it comes up clean and passed 1282494047 M * Bertl but it definitely doesn't cause your machine to reboot 1282494064 M * urbee1 any ideas what could of? :)ž 1282494068 M * Bertl what kernel/patch do you use? 1282494070 M * urbee1 sec 1282494092 M * urbee1 Linux box5 2.6.29-vs2.3.0.36.14-gentoo 1282494123 M * urbee1 i'm not running anything special than the default on the host 1282494162 M * urbee1 if you care to look at my dmesg and messages file i'll be gratefull :) 1282494287 M * urbee1 :/ 1282494683 M * urbee1 Bertl? 1282494765 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1282494874 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1282494882 M * urbee1 vxW: [»runscript.sh«,12948:#1002|1002|1002] did lookup hidden proc:ffff88062c494780[#0,4026531852] »/proc/bus«.ž 1282495250 M * urbee1 :S 1282495320 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1282495359 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1282495583 M * Bertl urbee1: well, you can turn the warnings off, but they show you that something is trying to access resources not assigned to the guest 1282495596 M * Bertl (which fails, as it is blocked by the kernel, so no harm done) 1282495612 M * Bertl in any case, I'd suggest to update to a more recent kernel 1282495697 M * urbee1 so there's no way someone has hacked or something 1282495701 M * urbee1 and doing these reboots? 1282495707 M * urbee1 cause they really do seem random 1282495717 M * Bertl anything else in dmesg? 1282495724 M * urbee1 i have pasted you in notice 1282495725 M * urbee1 the full logs 1282495741 M * Bertl hmm, ah, i see 1282495765 M * urbee1 ok 1282495785 M * urbee1 a few reboots were done by me when i was doing diagnostics 1282495797 M * Bertl looks okay to me, so either hardware issue, or some nasty bug (kernel upgrade suggested) 1282495813 M * urbee1 but this started today, like 6 hours ago 1282495824 M * urbee1 i have checked all hardware with hp diagnostics 1282495828 M * urbee1 and it all "passed" 1282495855 M * Bertl my advice, update the kernel, and see if it stops 1282495871 M * Bertl if so, you can still try to investigate further (serial console required) 1282495909 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF45348.dip.t-dialin.net 1282495930 M * urbee1 i dont have any livecds here so if i mess up kernel config i'm dead :) 1282495961 M * urbee1 & i cant leave the damn system for a few hours to go look for it cuz it hosts like 15 vservers and like 500 users+ 1282495968 M * Bertl again, serial console and grub is the way to go here 1282495970 M * urbee1 so its a fcked up situation 1282495988 M * urbee1 serial console & grub? 1282496009 M * urbee1 you mean i update the kernel and try to boot it, if it doesnt i boot the old kernel again? 1282496030 M * Bertl exaclty 1282496035 M * Bertl *axactly even 1282496059 M * urbee1 but why would the kernel version cause this to start happening now 1282496066 M * urbee1 after i dont know how much monthsž 1282496071 M * urbee1 i mean, a bug 1282496074 M * urbee1 or whatever 1282496873 M * urbee1 its been up now for 1 hour 1282496876 M * urbee1 what tha hell 1282497131 Q * manana Read error: Connection reset by peer 1282497184 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1282497245 M * urbee1 Latest version available: 2.3.0.36.31 1282497245 M * urbee1 Latest version installed: 2.3.0.36.14-r1 1282497246 M * urbee1 bertl 1282497252 M * urbee1 is this even newer? :) 1282497259 M * urbee1 vserver-sources kernel in gentoo 1282497265 M * Bertl probably 1282497761 M * Hollow urbee1: that's 2.6.35.2 with some fixes 1282497863 N * manana krushik 1282498523 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1282498738 M * Bertl so should be fine 1282498775 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@88.128.22.125 1282499777 M * trippeh_ Is util-vserver 0.30.216 svn r2772 recent enough for 2.6.35 vserver kernels? 1282499876 M * daniel_hozac no. 1282499882 M * daniel_hozac r2910 1282499918 M * trippeh_ Ah ok, thanks. 1282500052 M * trippeh_ Guess I'll have to do some more preparations then :) 1282500296 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: you used to have scripts for crosscompiling and creating toolchains, didn't you? 1282500565 M * trippeh_ daniel_hozac: And the >= r2910 is still backwards compatible with 2.6.28+ kernels? 1282500584 M * daniel_hozac yes, of course. 1282500606 M * daniel_hozac also 2.4 1282500621 M * trippeh_ Great :) 1282500625 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yes, but they are really outdated 1282500625 M * trippeh_ Less planning for me. 1282500632 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: ah, okay. 1282500634 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: it seems the best choice nowadays is OE 1282500650 M * daniel_hozac okay 1282500653 M * daniel_hozac i'll look in to it. 1282500658 M * daniel_hozac thanks. 1282500690 M * Bertl it should be able to build cross compiling and even test environments for most archs Linux supports 1282500776 M * daniel_hozac cool 1282500871 M * Bertl I even know somebody who has some experience with it, so if there are specific questions, I might simply ask him 1282502379 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1282502407 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF45348.dip.t-dialin.net 1282504800 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1282504817 M * Alteisen i am currently running 2.6.30.5-vs2.3.0.36.14-pre5alix2d3.10 on debian lenny, but i am going to upgrade to debian squeeze during the next months; what is the recommended vanilla linux kernel with which vserver patch for server use? 1282504835 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF45348.dip.t-dialin.net 1282504867 M * Bertl I'd suggest the latest 1282507111 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1282508031 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1282508036 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1282508520 Q * krushik Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1282509234 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1282509694 M * Marillion Alteisen: it is recommend what Bertl_zZ said, but i use Debian testing with 2.6.32 is it works fine now 1282509728 M * Marillion s/is it/it 1282509769 M * Alteisen 2.6.32 is default kernel from squeeze? 1282509777 M * Marillion yes 1282509799 M * Alteisen is there a vserver kernel in debian? 1282509807 M * Marillion i'm use vanilla +patches from harry 1282509815 M * Alteisen okay 1282509823 M * Alteisen so i will do as bertl said 1282509855 M * Marillion Alteisen: you can use tthe vserver-utils, work now 1282509860 M * Alteisen get the vanilla-kernal, plus latest patch, thet do the oldconfig job and review the config afterwards 1282509898 M * Alteisen i have a very special kernel, stripped down .config as far as i could 1282509987 M * Alteisen my vserver host is a AMD Geode @500 MHz with 256 MB RAM 1282510072 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1282510113 M * Marillion i use an Opteron, i like AMD too :) 1282510162 M * Alteisen http://a.ctdo.de/wiki/doku.php?id=debian-alix-2c3 1282510186 M * Alteisen that is maybe just a small box - but a box with an attitude ;-) 1282510208 M * Marillion your side? 1282510248 M * Alteisen yes, my wiki page for that 1282510262 M * Marillion Alteisen: i don't like PHP, use ikiwiki as well 1282510323 M * Marillion if looking for alternative 1282510330 M * Alteisen Marillion: dokuwiki just worked OOTB for me 1282510345 M * Marillion ah ok 1282510353 M * Alteisen i have tested dokuwiki, mediawiki and moinmoin wiki 1282510376 M * Alteisen there is a wikimatrix out there, that helps finding the appropriate one 1282510420 M * Alteisen according to that matrix, the three above where fitting for my needs and they had debian packages, so i tried them 1282510430 M * Alteisen mediawiki totaly sucks 1282510449 M * Marillion ok, but wa are to off-topic ;) 1282510456 M * Alteisen oh, sorry 1282510457 M * Marillion s/wa/we 1282510465 M * Marillion i'mn too 1282510503 M * Alteisen http://a.ctdo.de/wiki/doku.php?id=linux-vserver 1282510522 M * Alteisen that is my skript for making a new vserver in my environment 1282510562 M * Marillion nice 1282510630 M * Alteisen that is a very simple one, just assuming that guests and hosts linux distribution is identical 1282510975 M * Marillion i use micah's vserver-utils, and i have templates, is good enough 1282511085 J * dna ~dna@dslb-094-222-123-086.pools.arcor-ip.net 1282511087 M * dna You have received 30 new Gmail message(s): 1282511087 M * dna Eric Sunshine sent [msysGit] Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Resolve msysGit test t5560 failures 1282511087 M * dna SourceForge.net sent [nant-dev] [ nant-Bugs-3048200 ] NAnt 0.91 Aplha 2 crashes on startup 1282511090 M * dna danny900 sent [rdiff-backup-users] How to compile on Windows? 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