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1280716270 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1280716275 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1280737893 M * yang I am looking for a comparison table/chart which compares Linux-Vserver with other Virtualisation products mostly against OpenVZ
1280738032 M * yang so far I have found this one - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system-level_virtualization
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1280750359 M * arekm 2.6.35
1280750661 M * _are_ yang: VServer is real free software, not just the free giveaway of some commercially licensed stuff, like OpenVZ at least has been. No real limits on how many VServers you may run in parallel as long as you have the resources. And what I personally like, no tun/tap stuff for networking. Apart from that it is just easy to set up and you can always use chroot in case something goes wrong you want to analyze. But that's just me personally and based on my
1280750661 M * _are_  findings several years ago. VServer never let me down since then and so I never bothered looking elsewhere.
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1280757107 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1280757111 M * Bertl morning folks!
1280758530 M * ryker__ good morning
1280758579 M * ryker__ i'm trying to build the latest vserver utils on centos 5.5 and getting an error. wondering if anyone has any idea what the issue might be?  http://pastebin.org/441368
1280758967 M * ryker__ actually, this seems to be a libtool problem on my system.  I just noticed a libtool error in the configure output.
1280759009 M * Bertl was going to ask for the ./configure output
1280759019 M * biz_ libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed
1280759185 M * yang _are_: I would like to convince someone to use Vserver instead of OpenVZ, but I never tried OpenVZ, so I am looking for some comparison chart
1280759189 M * ryker__ biz_: yeah, I was getting that on the make output, but I can't seem to get past this on the ./configure output. '/bin/rm: cannot remove `libtoolT': No such file or directory'
1280759231 M * ryker__ found this, http://toxpenguin.blogspot.com/2009/09/solution-for-libtoolt-error.html, but it didn't help.
1280759341 M * ryker__ Bertl: here's the ./configure output.  http://pastebin.org/441387.  Not sure what to do about the libtooT error.
1280759617 M * Bertl your system looks a little broken to me, see all the cannot remove conftest* ?
1280759658 M * Bertl but try with --prefix= instead of --prefix=/
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1280759816 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1280759827 M * ryker__ Bertl: it's a fresh install of centos5.5.  I just extracted a fresh set of util-vserver sources and ran ./configure --prefix= --mandir=/usr/share/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var  --with-vrootdir=/vservers and still got the libtooT error.
1280759860 M * Bertl guess you have to wait for daniel_hozac then, maybe he knows
1280759919 M * ryker__ ok.  thanks for trying to help.
1280760076 M * Bertl just built an mandriva rpm from the sources ... works perfectly fine here
1280760078 M * biz_ perhaps some autotool stuff is broken or the autogenerated configure is incompatible with your toolset
1280760163 M * biz_ ryker__: can you paste the link to the tarball of util-vserser you're using?
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1280760227 M * Bertl http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2901.tar.bz2
1280760402 M * biz_ ryker__: perhaps libtoolize --force; aclocal; autoreconf in the clean tree helps?
1280760483 M * ryker__ thx Bertl, yep that's the tarball I was using.
1280760502 M * ryker__ biz_: already tried that.  didn't help unfortunately.
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1280779872 M * Bertl arekm: just uploaded a patch for 2.6.35, it includes a (hopefully) fixed CoW link breaking (for utime) and preliminary support for dlimits (after the quota changes)
1280779887 M * Bertl please test when you get around and let me know how it does
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1280782410 M * _Shiva_ Bertl: you're patch-numbering is funny ;-) i.e the actual VS-version for each Kernel..
1280782479 M * Bertl is it?
1280782659 M * _Shiva_ so one gets: "Feature Set 9 for 2.6.27", "Set 28 2nd revision for 2.6.31" (<- which seems like quite an increase in Features ;-) ), "29 4th rev for 2.6.32", "30 4th rev for 2.6.33".. 
1280782692 M * _Shiva_ same feature-set for 2.6.34 as for .33 - but pre..
1280782726 M * _Shiva_ and now 31 set for 2.6.35 ;-)
1280782760 M * Bertl the version for 2.6.34 is still pre, maybe I'll fix it up and add the new features from 2.6.35 :)
1280782874 M * _Shiva_ maybe drop 2.6.{31,33,34}, bump 2.6.27-vs and 2.6.32-vs to vs2.3.0.36.31 would be sufficient, not?
1280782894 M * Bertl nah, 2.6.27 is completely different
1280782903 M * Bertl i.e. not really comparable
1280782907 M * _Shiva_ but's LTS ;-)
1280782915 M * _Shiva_ never mind :-)
1280782980 M * _Shiva_ i think keeping 2.6.32 is yet important
1280783036 M * pmjdebruijn 2.6.27 is pretty kick ass as is :)
1280783037 M * _Shiva_ (personally, i like 2.6.33.x as of DRBD inclusion, but i don't count)
1280783077 M * Bertl which isn't in 2.6.35? or what? :)
1280783130 M * _Shiva_ actually, i thought 2.6.33 is not far from .32 which is LTS - but has DRBD
1280783151 M * _Shiva_ but: yes - .35 would also be an option as of other things ;-)
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1280787316 M * _Shiva_ Bertl: what do you thing of incremental patches - like: http://looking.at/linux-vserver-deltas/
1280787341 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@d003133.adsl.hansenet.de
1280787487 M * cehteh (how about just git :P)
1280787543 M * _Shiva_ that would get e.g. already patched source tree to the next incremental vanilla - instead of: patch -R vs-patch, then patch incremental vanilla, then forward patch vs-patch again while looking for hunks and usual Makefile rejects ;-)
1280787548 A * _Shiva_ nods cehteh 
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1280787761 M * Bertl cehteh: feel free to create/use a git repository
1280787773 M * cehteh i do already
1280787789 M * Bertl _Shiva_: such deltas are quite simple to get from existing patches
1280787794 M * cehteh but well mine fallen a bit behind still .28 kernel there
1280787817 M * cehteh _Shiva_: actually mine is a mob repository iirc anyone can push there
1280787848 M * cehteh http://git.pipapo.org/?p=linux-2.6-vserver;a=summary
1280787925 M * cehteh needs some volunteer to keep it up to date, i only scratch my own itches with it
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