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1280114103 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1280114109 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1280143173 J * mnemoc ~amery@shell.opensde.net
1280143596 M * Hollow_ hey folks!
1280143600 N * Hollow_ Hollow
1280143645 M * Hollow i've recently added multicast addresses to a cluster of vserver for a customer, and now i cannot bind normal tcp daemons like mysql (EADDRINUSE)
1280143675 M * Hollow i've just added the one multicast address that is in use to all vserver, and the monitoring daemons that join this address work as expected
1280143701 M * Hollow but everything else seems broken now, except for cases where a listen address is specified instead of using 0.0.0.0
1280143706 M * Hollow any ideas?
1280143977 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-060-208.pools.arcor-ip.net
1280145320 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net
1280145725 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: so you gave the address to all guests?
1280145755 M * daniel_hozac i assume you also have other guests binding the same ports?
1280145772 M * daniel_hozac do you really need multicast for all of them?
1280145866 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.9.37
1280146100 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: yes, daniel_hozac yes, i'm using 239.2.11.71 on all vservers in the cluster
1280146113 M * Hollow ganglia uses multicast for sending it's metrics
1280146136 M * Hollow i've tried to convince them of munin or collectd, but they want ganglia
1280146138 M * Hollow :(
1280146215 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: and yes, e.g. i have two mysql vservers, binding 0.0.0.0:3306, and with the multicast it does not work anymore
1280146352 M * daniel_hozac right
1280146377 M * Hollow but that's a vserver issue, right?
1280146394 M * daniel_hozac well...
1280146410 M * daniel_hozac i suppose.
1280146443 M * Hollow btw, i didn't need NET_BROADCAST to make multicast work inside the vservers
1280146446 M * daniel_hozac there is a patch for that somewhere, but i don't think it was merged.
1280146564 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: maybe http://www.mail-archive.com/vserver@list.linux-vserver.org/msg08160.html ?
1280146766 M * daniel_hozac no... there is a much more recent one somewhere.
1280147082 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200803/att-0058/multicast-plain.diff
1280147098 M * Hollow but it does not seem to be anywhere near applying to 2.6.33 ;)
1280147169 A * sladen looks around
1280147299 M * daniel_hozac i seem to recall something even more recent than that.
1280147420 M * daniel_hozac but i can't seem to find it.
1280147423 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1280147426 M * daniel_hozac so maybe that is it :-)
1280147442 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: cannot find one either in the new archives
1280147449 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.161.180
1280147459 M * Hollow well, everything seems to have been migrated to vs_inet.h
1280147463 M * daniel_hozac yeah
1280147498 M * daniel_hozac gotta relocate, bbiab
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1280157219 J * vivo ~vivo@85-18-21-124.ip.fastwebnet.it
1280157300 M * vivo Hollow: what about an ebuild for util-vserver-0.30.216_pre2901 ?
1280157353 M * vivo @any: 2.6.34.1-vs2.3.0.36.30.4.pre8 is problematic which is the one who work best for you?
1280157433 M * daniel_hozac how is it problematic?
1280157505 M * vivo well ls /var/run/vservers work best than vserver-stat for example
1280157546 M * daniel_hozac right, because vserver-stat hasn't been updated yet.
1280157576 M * vivo last kernel working?
1280157591 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.32.
1280157633 M * vivo please do you know if there is other things that need updateing for 2.6.34?
1280157675 M * daniel_hozac not that i'm aware of, but i am not the right person to ask.
1280157771 M * vivo well may be I can live without vserver-stat ;) will proceed with testing there are a couple of pretty things in 2.6.34
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1280162644 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/16406 (i did not actually fix the bug, instead i've added a ncap to allow mcast binding even if the address has not been added to nxi->v4)
1280162657 M * Hollow which is much nicer :)
1280162986 M * Hollow Bertl_oO: please review this patch too
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1280164535 Q * vivo Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc Equilibrium 4.1.0, revision: 4666, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-07-18 0
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1280165572 J * vivo ~vivo@85-18-21-124.ip.fastwebnet.it
1280165604 M * vivo hi, may I report a little bug in /usr/lib64/util-vserver/vserver.functions 0.30.216_pre2901
1280165626 M * vivo on line 808, there is a if then else whit only a comment inside it
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1280165652 M * vivo bash does not allow this, put a ":" under the comment and bash will be happy
1280165661 J * jes-o-mat jesusch@jesusch.de
1280165689 M * vivo the comment in question says "# Do nothing"
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1280165711 M * daniel_hozac thanks
1280165733 M * vivo nop :)
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1280181488 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1280181491 M * Bertl back now ...
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1280187223 J * fasdfg ~fasdfg@barfooze.de
1280187301 M * fasdfg is there a summary page with the advantages of linux-vserver compared to different virtualisation software?
1280187760 M * Bertl there should be a matrix comparison on wikipedia
1280187782 M * Bertl are you looking for something specific?
1280188035 M * fasdfg nope, just for a general overview
1280188092 M * fasdfg OTOH, I'd be interested to know what you like about linux-vserver...
1280188129 M * Bertl simplicity, flexibility, unintrusiveness, clean code, performance
1280188143 M * fasdfg thanks
1280188150 M * Bertl np
1280188193 M * fasdfg looks very similiar to jails at the first glance
1280188208 M * Bertl yep, it is basicall bsd jails on steroids
1280188239 M * Bertl i.e. you have most of the virtualization features expected from a VM, but the ease of use and performance from a chroot
1280188386 M * fasdfg some setup I ran into does not enable me to set for instance the maximum allowed nice-level via pam_limits.so. is that a matter of misconfiguration?
1280188396 M * fasdfg same for mount --bind
1280188429 M * Bertl kind of, the pam limit is because in a 'guest' you are not allowed to raise the hard limits
1280188456 M * Bertl and you inherit the host limits unless you specify different ones for the guest
1280188486 M * Bertl you can overcome that easily by fixing the guest limits or adding the ignegnice
1280188510 M * Bertl the bind mount is another config option you can set for the guest
1280188514 M * fasdfg I specified higher ones (5 instead of 0... that means lower priority, equals why the hell is it forbidden) in the guest system.
1280188536 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1280188594 M * Bertl it is allowed to raise the niceness in a guest, but pam does it the other way round, check with strace
1280188615 M * fasdfg "the other way round"?
1280188645 M * Bertl you have a process with e.g. niceness 5, and pam sets it back to 0
1280188648 M * fasdfg <=> if I adapt pam_limits.so to linux-vserver it's going to work?
1280188688 M * Bertl sure, usually removing the realtime entries and setting the limits to sane values will work
1280188694 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@111-240-219-77.dynamic.hinet.net
1280188735 M * fasdfg the realtime entries? ah, you mean in the config?
1280188779 M * fasdfg I thought about patching the pam_limits code