1278548400 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@d065087.adsl.hansenet.de 1278548817 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278554006 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1278555043 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAA0O3.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1278555573 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1278557388 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1278557392 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1278558017 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@d075074.adsl.hansenet.de 1278558425 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278558425 N * SauLus_ SauLus 1278560209 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1278560486 J * click_ click@ti0127a340-0785.bb.online.no 1278560726 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278560837 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAA0PN.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1278562693 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@91.176.88.179 1278562994 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278563926 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-67-179.iusacell.net 1278564244 Q * rococo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278565680 J * click click@ti0127a340-1010.bb.online.no 1278565917 Q * click_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278566603 J * click_ click@ti0127a340-0094.bb.online.no 1278566837 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278568084 J * ncopa ~ncopa@180.40.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1278568533 J * mtg ~mtg@vollkornmail.dbk-nb.de 1278570192 J * rococo ~rco@7GDAADL4C.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1278570326 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278570403 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-174-205.pools.arcor-ip.net 1278570573 N * rococo smoothie 1278570714 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1278570832 J * petzsch1 ~markus@184.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com 1278570845 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1278571126 Q * petzsch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278571982 Q * petzsch1 Quit: Leaving. 1278572224 J * rcoco ~rco@28IAAA0QZ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1278572236 N * rcoco smothie 1278572567 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1278572662 Q * smoothie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278573265 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-174-205.pools.arcor-ip.net 1278573727 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1278574779 Q * _Shiva_ Quit: Operator halted - Coffee not found 1278574905 J * _Shiva_ shiva@whatcha.looking.at 1278575957 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1278576048 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1278576726 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1278577132 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1278577185 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1278577533 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1278578992 Q * manana Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278581134 N * s1aden sladen 1278582094 P * kir Leaving. 1278583312 M * yang Can someone suggest what kind of limits to apply, if the system gets overloaded with some process from the guests, resulting in a system failure ? 1278583672 M * _Shiva_ premium 1278583836 M * _Shiva_ ups - sry 1278584906 J * petzsch1 ~markus@dslb-088-075-164-216.pools.arcor-ip.net 1278585216 Q * petzsch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278586581 Q * petzsch1 Quit: Leaving. 1278586613 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-164-216.pools.arcor-ip.net 1278588234 M * yeeeepssen cam i make a sshfs mount on my vserver ? 1278588238 M * yeeeepssen or fuse? 1278588370 M * isodude yeeeepssen: does fstab support the sshfs-type? 1278588397 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1278589620 M * yang yeeeepssen: I think not 1278589648 M * yang yeeeepssen: you can mount extra fs from the "host" 1278592549 M * isodude user@10.0.0.1:dir/ /home/user cifs credentials=creds,defaults 0 0 1278592551 M * isodude maybe? 1278592555 M * isodude something like that 1278592650 M * ard then probably in the fstab.remote :-) 1278592995 M * isodude is it a difference between fstabs? 1278593019 M * isodude oh oh, I've managed to get my tty0 into the vserver 1278593021 M * isodude ! 1278593057 M * isodude Well I did, cp -a /dev/pts/0 $vserver/vdir/dev/console 1278593081 M * isodude hm 1278593083 M * isodude nm 1278593140 M * ard as far as I know the fstab.remote is mounted from within the new network space, so the source is the same as the vservers configured ip 1278593384 M * isodude Oh, right. 1278593449 M * isodude Allright, so I can't do cp -a /dev/pts/0 somefile && echo hej > somefile 1278593463 M * isodude becuase it generates a input output error. 1278593643 M * swenTjuln ard: you've done some network hacking, yes? 1278593654 M * ard depends on what you call hacking 1278593693 M * ard I've debugged the vlan code a lot before it got accepted into the kernel, but that's a few years ago 1278593694 M * swenTjuln is there a facility within vserver to force vserver guest to certain routeing table 1278593700 M * swenTjuln ? 1278593704 M * ard ah 1278593751 M * swenTjuln a looked through "flower page" and found nothing 1278593754 M * ard you can use 2 solutions: 1 use network namespace (I am currently trying to figure that one out with the help of Bertl_zZ ), and 2) just use some routing tables and filter rules 1278593770 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1278593775 M * Bertl morning folks! 1278593782 M * ard 1) means you really have to know things because you will be doing new stuff 1278593786 M * ard Bertl : morning 1278593789 M * swenTjuln good afternoon! :D 1278593860 M * ard 2) is really easy: just use a filter: 1278593885 M * ard ip rule from table <1...250> 1278593890 M * swenTjuln ard: 2nd option seems more apropritae for my situation. But, should I script it, or vserver-utils supports it? 1278593900 M * ard and make your routing table statemnts with table number 1278593918 M * ard I think you should script it... 1278593928 M * swenTjuln ah, ok 1278593931 M * swenTjuln tnx 1278593945 M * ard But it is the way daniel_hozac seems to use it, so he might have some ready to use config 1278593989 M * ard I am going to use 1) because I really need an ip-stack seperation to make our new infra managable 1278593991 M * Bertl there are a bunch of guest related scripts which are executed (when present) at various stages of guest startup and shutdown 1278594007 M * Bertl they can be utilized to setup proper routing tables and rules 1278594041 M * swenTjuln is there a repository of 'em? Or should I use my luck on Google 1278594080 M * ard well, you can try reading the scripts in /usr/lib/util-vserver ;-) 1278594103 M * ard if I am correct it's about: /etc/vservers/vserver-name/apps/vshelper 1278594126 M * ard or it is: /etc/vservers/vserver-name/apps/init 1278594166 J * ktwilight ~keliew@91.176.176.233 1278594252 M * swenTjuln i'll put it in /etc/vservers/vserver-name/scripts/pre-start 1278594264 M * swenTjuln it that the _right_ way? 1278594309 M * isodude Bertl: morning =) 1278594368 M * ard actually I wouldn't know :-). I never needed to do it :-) 1278594387 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278594538 M * Bertl swenTjuln: pre-start might be too late, there is an initialize script which is executed before any context creation 1278594570 M * Bertl the scripts are described on the 'Flower Page' 1278594596 M * swenTjuln Bertl: tnx 1278594637 M * swenTjuln Bertl: you've mentioned this scripts already exists....can you point me to where they are? 1278594768 M * Bertl the scripts themselves do not exist, i.e. you have to create the files, but the hooks exist, i.e. they get executed by util-vserver when they are there 1278594796 M * Bertl the location (and properties) of almost all config files are described on the beforementioned 'Flower Page' 1278594830 M * swenTjuln oh, i see 1278594837 M * ard http203://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1278594854 M * ard where did that 203 come from... ahhh 1278594860 M * ard http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1278594881 M * swenTjuln thankyou both 1278594891 M * ard no just bertl... 1278594895 M * ard an daniel_hozac 1278594899 M * ard +d 1278594900 M * swenTjuln lets do some shellscripting :D 1278594919 M * ard (and more people I guess ;-) ) 1278594980 M * Bertl the configuration page is auto generated from util-vserver source code 1278595148 M * yang hi Bertl 1278595251 M * yang I tried to set the CPU hard limits, but it doesn't seem to be working for my guests - http://pastebin.com/FRKXZUip 1278595283 M * yang the CRASH TEST will use 100% CPU and eventually hang the machine 1278595421 M * ard yang : grep . /dev/cgroup/vps5/* makes it more viewable :-) 1278595461 M * yang ok - http://pastebin.com/8ubDmD3S 1278595675 M * ard it sounds more like a problem in urandom 1278595694 M * ard the 100% is system time, trying to generate random data 1278595726 M * yang well the overall load grows from 0.04 to 12 then the machine hangs 1278595728 M * ard the hang is not normal 1278595750 M * ard the load should at most rise to 1 1278595756 M * yang hmmm 1278595779 M * ard so it might be there is a bug in the cfs scheduler 1278595815 M * ard Or combined with urandom, since the 100% cpu time is kernel time and not user-space 1278595860 M * Bertl is the entropy pool empty? 1278595860 M * yang so I should try some other stress test instead 1278595876 M * yang Bertl: where is that one ? 1278595902 M * Bertl in the kernel 1278595912 M * ard yang : to try cfs itself I would suggest running distributed-net, or cpuburn 1278595914 M * yang how do I check ? 1278595978 M * Bertl in /proc/sys/kernel/random/ 1278596073 M * yang http://pastebin.com/DtgTVw8a (on the bottom) 1278596371 M * Bertl does the test task consume 100% cpu now? 1278596380 M * Bertl also, what kernel/patch do you use? 1278596509 M * yang the test task consumes 100% CPU and the Load average: 1.02 0.52 0.23 1278596648 M * Bertl and the kernel/patch is? 1278596659 M * yang the kernel is from debian squeeze 2.6.32-vserver 1278596687 M * Bertl well, then you probably have to check that it includes the hard cfs scheduler (which I doubt) 1278596710 M * Bertl if it doesn't contain it, the behaviour is the expected one 1278596735 M * yang this - cat /boot/config-blah | grep CONFIG_VSERVER_HARDCPU 1278596737 M * yang ? 1278596757 M * Bertl not VSERVER related, it's a mainline feature 1278596766 M * yang whcih kernel setting then ? 1278596771 M * Bertl (well, actually an addon patch, as mainline hasn't included it yet) 1278596817 M * Bertl CONFIG_CFS_HARD_LIMITS 1278596851 M * yang [15:47:07] root@sisyphus /home/yang # grep "CONFIG_CFS_HARD_LIMITS" /boot/config-2.6.32-trunk-vserver-686 1278596854 M * yang # CONFIG_CFS_HARD_LIMITS is not set 1278596857 M * yang :/ 1278596871 M * Bertl there you go :) 1278596894 M * yang is there a chance to be applied in the next version ? 1278596900 M * yang maybe micah will know 1278596924 M * Bertl but that looks like a typical debian decision, it seems they included the patch, but disabled the feature, while they enable the kitchensink in their kernels :) 1278597073 M * yang Bertl: what about the memory limits rss.hard ? 1278597324 M * Bertl what patch does the kernel contain? 1278597467 M * ard Heh... as a debian user and maintainer of some packages I never ever use debian kernels... 1278597484 M * ard But then again, I wouldn't on any distro 1278597511 M * ard Hmmm, maybe my android phone, dreambox, tv and blu-ray speler are exceptions ;-) 1278597516 M * yang well the one from 2.6.32-trunk-vserver-686 (2.6.32-5), while there is no newer version of 2.6.32-15 (which is for mainline kernels) 1278597579 M * Bertl yang: no idea which one that would be :) 1278597579 M * ard yang : I would advise getting to know how to use kernel-package... it's really easy to use and once you've build your own kernel you wouldn't want it any other way 1278597601 A * ard already got bug reports on debian-kernel related patch bugs 1278597641 M * ard as a maintainer of the vlan package I mean... 1278597934 J * thierryp ~thierry@62.103.98.54 1278598557 J * dna ~dna@p54BCA33E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1278598894 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.144 1278599327 M * ard Bertl : if I do a VCMD_set_space, I have to give a mask with which spaces to set and a xid on which vserver to apply it on, and then the current space will be cloned/proxied or set on that xid? 1278599715 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1278599766 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1278599850 M * daniel_hozac ard: yes 1278600132 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: you are aware that the recent CoW fails for certain operations? 1278600162 M * daniel_hozac no 1278600209 M * Bertl at least it seems that e.g. utime changes result in strange error messages 1278600247 M * Bertl I haven't had the time to look into it yet, so I just wanted to let you know ... 1278600252 M * daniel_hozac okay 1278600368 M * yang How could I specify different mounting (boot) directory (like /dev/hda1) when building a new initramfs ? 1278600400 M * Bertl doesn't really sound Linux-VServer related :) 1278600410 M * yang yes, but still, I am trying to figure it out 1278600426 M * Bertl but it depends on the tools you use to create the initramfs 1278600461 M * yang well 1278600477 M * yang It always appends /dev/hda5, which isn't a bootable device (it's swap) 1278600511 M * Bertl appends? 1278600520 M * yang yes, when updating initramfs 1278600534 M * yang http://pastebin.com/KKTyFiD0 1278600583 M * Bertl that looks fine, it is the resume partition (for hibernate) 1278600596 M * Bertl (which is usually the swap partition) 1278600604 M * yang it should be /dev/hda1 instead which is a "/" partition 1278600613 M * Bertl nah, definitely not 1278600625 M * yang I get error VFS unable to mount fs 3 sec. after grub 1278600635 M * Bertl you can't 'resume' from the rootfs 1278600673 M * Bertl which is probably related to a different naming scheme or a missing driver 1278600683 M * Bertl (e.g. sda vs hda, etc) 1278600707 M * yang yes, so renaming hda to sda in /etc/fstab will fix that ? 1278600719 M * Bertl upload the complete bootup log, and I'll take a look 1278600747 M * yang there is no bootup log, its the third error after kernel starts to boot resulting into VFS fs unable to mount 1278600801 M * Bertl you might want to check that the kernel issues boot messages to the device you are looking at 1278600850 Q * mtg Quit: Verlassend 1278601075 M * yang the error http://pastebin.ca/1896689 1278601236 M * Bertl nice, but you are missing plenty of output when the kernel boots 1278601258 M * yang it hangs there 1278601268 M * yang I can only see these 3 messages 1278601270 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:6f80:b97d:dc65 1278601272 Q * jrklein 1278601322 M * Bertl kernel boot starts with something like this: 1278601323 M * Bertl [ 0.000000] Linux version 2.6.32.16-vs2.3.x (root@hamiller) (gcc version 4.1.2 20070302 (prerelease) (4.1.2-1mdv2007.1)) #38 SMP Thu Jul 8 02:49:32 CEST 2010 1278601326 M * Bertl [ 0.000000] Command line: console=ttyS0,115200n8 nolocal noswap rw root=/dev/hda1 debug vsdebug= 1278601357 M * Bertl the message you have in line 3 happens way into the boot process 1278601395 M * Bertl so, there are roughly 100-150 lines before that, which are probably supressed by some kernel option or directed to a different console device 1278601481 M * yang well, my monitor seems to ignore all previous errors 1278601515 M * daniel_hozac don't boot with quiet. 1278601516 M * PowerKe yang, you probably want to change the root= parameter in your boot loader (grub/lilo) instead of changing the initfs for that 1278601549 M * Bertl (we don't know that yet :) 1278601560 M * yang linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-vserver-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet 1278601573 M * Bertl see, there is your supressor :) 1278601574 M * yang I will remove quiet option 1278601593 M * Bertl capture the complete output and upload it to pastebin 1278601923 M * yang http://pastebin.com/aTpJ9vbT 1278601948 M * yang I should use the remoteconsole to be able to captchure the complete 1278602005 M * yang maybe its just a bad build of the kernel ? 1278602066 M * fLoo Bertl 1278602081 M * fLoo did u get any further with the fixes for the upcoming uv release ? 1278602088 M * fLoo i mean for example the vserver-stat problem 1278602106 M * Bertl fLoo: you are asking the wrong person, but daniel_hozac is around :) 1278602111 M * fLoo mmh 1278602113 M * fLoo i c 1278602119 M * fLoo didnt want to wake him up ;) 1278602127 M * Bertl yang: XXXX and XXYY doesn't look like kernel messages :) 1278602155 M * yang Bertl: do you understand those error sequences (can you translate them) 1278602197 M * Bertl as I said, if I have the complete bootup log, it is probably rather simple to pinpoint the issue 1278602272 M * yang Bertl: thanks anyway, for now I will just keep using the older kernel release, I am not in the mood to setup remoteconsole 1278602315 M * Bertl so be it ... note that a serial console should be basic equipment for servers 1278602360 M * daniel_hozac saves me on a monthly basis. 1278602481 M * Bertl okay, off for a little work in the basement, bbl 1278602485 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1278602733 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1278603160 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-67-179.iusacell.net 1278604191 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278604882 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.39.235 1278605252 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1278605301 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1278605459 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d065087.adsl.hansenet.de 1278607327 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1278607427 M * yang Bertl_oO: Not a full log, but a bit better - http://boneym.mtveurope.org/~yang/Kernel-1.JPG & http://boneym.mtveurope.org/~yang/Kernel-2.JPG 1278608216 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1278608365 M * ard yang : I never use an initramfs ... I always compile the bootblockdevice drivers into the kernel 1278608395 M * ard Hmm, I do use initramfs, but that's for network boots of those kernels ;-) 1278608791 Q * gnuk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278609046 Q * Pazzo Quit: Bye! 1278609630 M * yang *sigh* there was no initrd line for this kernel inside grub.cfg 1278609638 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1278610086 M * yang solved 1278610095 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1278610414 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-164-216.pools.arcor-ip.net 1278611529 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAA0YM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1278611675 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA] 1278612242 Q * ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278612407 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1278613796 A * ard is now searching for the mask defines... 1278613872 M * daniel_hozac what are you trying to do? 1278613925 M * ard I am trying to what bertl suggested: create a network namespace using a dummy vserver, then within that namespace start vservers 1278613943 M * ard and then set the network namespace for those vservers 1278613950 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1278613953 M * ard :-) 1278613957 M * daniel_hozac what's the goal, exactly? 1278613978 M * ard I am trying to have a seperate IP-stack per vlan. Within a vlan I want to have multiple vservers. 1278613998 M * daniel_hozac right... 1278614007 M * ard It's working more or less 1278614023 M * daniel_hozac i am not quite sure what you are doing. 1278614027 M * daniel_hozac why not just use vspacE? 1278614051 M * ard well, I try to use vspace, and actually I use it to do the things that are working. 1278614071 M * daniel_hozac but? 1278614072 M * ard F.i. vnamespace -e v1500 --net vserver something start 1278614074 M * ard works 1278614084 M * daniel_hozac right... 1278614096 M * daniel_hozac though you want vspace, actually. 1278614099 M * ard but I want "vserver something enter" to work without vnamespace -e v1500 --net 1278614129 M * ard Hmmm, vnamespace does something more than just vspace, right? 1278614132 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1278614139 M * daniel_hozac filesystem namespaces. 1278614150 M * ard I am close with vspace: it has a --set option.... 1278614156 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1278614163 M * daniel_hozac vspace is how it is done. 1278614187 M * daniel_hozac though you probably just want to throw in a $_VSPACE --enter --xid in the vserver start sequence. 1278614228 M * ard Hmmm, I small fix in vserver.start :-) 1278614229 M * ard ah 1278614245 M * ard eh... I mean a small fix... excuse my typing errors 1278614266 M * daniel_hozac yup 1278614285 M * ard But should I do that for the vserver ... enter too? 1278614319 M * daniel_hozac no 1278614326 M * ard Bertl told me I could just set the network namespace so that a vserver ... enter will just work 1278614335 M * ard with VCMD_set_space 1278614360 M * daniel_hozac VCMD_set_space is what vspace --set is . 1278614387 M * ard but vspace --set doesn't accept a xid to operate on, it only does it for the current... 1278614441 M * ard Or am I looking at it the wrong way? 1278614469 M * daniel_hozac right 1278614480 M * ard I would say I would do a vspace --enter --xid v1500 --net -- vspace --xid something --set --net 1278614510 M * daniel_hozac the --set is already there as part of the start sequence 1278614512 M * ard I can of course alter this vspace :-) 1278614544 M * ard Ah, but then I probably have to force the --set --net option on startup? 1278614556 M * daniel_hozac no... 1278614567 M * ard because I start the v1500 with spaces/net to create a seperate network namespace 1278614581 M * ard and the remainder without spaces/net 1278614877 M * daniel_hozac try SVN 1278614892 M * daniel_hozac and set spaces/net to the xid of the guest's namespace you want. 1278614902 M * daniel_hozac (or name, doesn't really matter) 1278614986 M * ard which version? 1278615007 M * daniel_hozac 2894 1278615013 M * daniel_hozac ah 1278615016 M * daniel_hozac actually 2895 1278615112 M * ard 2882 is the highest pre-package :-) 1278615119 M * daniel_hozac yup 1278615127 A * ard get's out his packaging skills 1278615142 M * daniel_hozac you can just get the two diffs and apply them manually. 1278615183 M * daniel_hozac svn diff -r 2893:2895 https://svn.linux-vserver.org/svn/util-vserver/trunk | patch -p1 -d /usr/lib*/util-vserver 1278615192 M * ard yeah, but the 2882 is without source, and the 2864 is the official debian release and that's really a pain to fix 1278615205 M * daniel_hozac i meant to an installed system. 1278615235 M * ard of course :-). just a few shell scripts that are changed then? 1278615239 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1278615261 M * daniel_hozac if someone just sent me a sane debian directory, i'd include it in the tarball and you could just build the tarball... 1278615267 M * daniel_hozac but, nobody has done that yet. 1278615373 M * daniel_hozac i guess Debian folks likes things the hard way :-) 1278615379 M * ard nope :-) 1278615390 M * ard but there are debian folks and there are debian folks 1278615421 M * ard I have a co-maintainer which does the actual checking of my packaging :-) 1278615462 M * ard maybe some are just to scared to send it upstream 1278615468 M * daniel_hozac i'll probably end up doing it myself when i get tired of building it from source. 1278615524 M * ard What I hate the most about some debian packages is that they use a seperate patching file to keep a pristine source 1278615552 M * ard I'd rather have only a pristine orig.tar.gz and then have a diff.gz describing what I have done to it 1278615599 M * ard usually you can replace the orig.tar.gz with a newer version and it usually still builds :-) 1278615727 M * ard BTW: I will send you that debian directory, since I have to package it if it works :-) 1278615920 M * daniel_hozac note that i want a sane one. 1278615926 M * daniel_hozac not one like the Debian package. 1278615937 M * daniel_hozac but one that packages things according to the manifest. 1278616032 M * daniel_hozac i.e. how it is meant to be packaged. 1278616113 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1278616146 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hehe :) 1278616330 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.174.19.86 1278616923 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1278616960 M * ard I have an old util-vserver vspace, so I removed some --xid options and used the xid number but I do get: 1278616962 M * ard vspace: vc_enter_namespace(): Operation not permitted 1278617045 M * ard so it should fill out as $_VSPACE --enter "$shared" --net -- 1278617066 M * daniel_hozac i suppose i should put that sooner. 1278617119 M * ard before the USE_VNAMESPACE ? 1278617125 M * daniel_hozac could you try r2896? 1278617196 M * ard it starts... 1278617199 M * ard brr 1278617204 A * ard is scared to enter :-) 1278617229 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAA0ZX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1278617265 M * ard maybe tehre is some other thing wrong.. because when I enter the vserver I get the complete ipstack of the host ;-) 1278617293 M * daniel_hozac what does vserver --debug start show? 1278617328 M * ard something else is wrong, because now vspace -e v1500 --net ip a also does the wrong thing... 1278617419 M * daniel_hozac --debug's ftw. 1278617426 Q * dannf Quit: Coyote finally caught me 1278617600 M * ard meuh 1278617607 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1278617620 M * ard touched nocgroup because of lxc experiments 1278617839 A * ard is doing a reboot 1278617844 M * ard Hmmm 1278617855 M * ard I must go home, else I need a lot of light on my bike 1278618023 M * ard and I should just build a newer version... 1278618055 M * ard daniel_hozac : thanks for now. I get the picture of how and where, I think I can manage the exact locations. 1278618075 M * daniel_hozac well, trunk should just do the right thing... 1278618076 M * ard the only problem still is that ip configuration is done before being in the right network namespace... 1278618098 M * daniel_hozac that needs to be extended anyhow. 1278618118 M * daniel_hozac but yes, the network namespace likely belongs with the filesystem namespace as an early entry one. 1278619752 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1278619896 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1278621085 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1278621496 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1278622358 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1278623015 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1278623020 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1278623050 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1278623126 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAA002.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1278625578 Q * smothie Quit: Leaving 1278625997 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1278626942 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc6-aztw22-2-0-cust100.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1278627271 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1278630149 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1278632415 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1278632612 J * MeCooL ~mecool@dxb-as9458.alshamil.net.ae 1278633366 Q * PowerKe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1278633597 J * PowerKe ~tom@d5153A6A9.access.telenet.be