1277770301 J * samzor_01 ~webserver@124-170-172-15.dyn.iinet.net.au 1277770593 M * samzor_01 Hi, i need some advice on setting up a guest. When i specify --interface eth0:/24 I was wondering if it was possible to specify an alias for eth0. eg: eth0::/24 because specifying eth0 breads cpanel in one of the other guests 1277770612 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@d004159.adsl.hansenet.de 1277770716 Q * MeCooL Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277770841 M * Bertl yes, you can use the part in the interface specification to create an alias 1277771056 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277771077 M * samzor_01 Bertl ok, so "-n myvguest --interface eth0:myvguest:192.168.1.40/24" is appropriate? 1277771107 M * Bertl nope 1277771125 M * Bertl see 'vserver - build --help' for the syntax 1277771172 M * samzor_01 ok 1277771265 M * samzor_01 thanks Bertl 1277771311 M * Bertl np 1277772558 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1277776515 M * samzor_01 Sorry to bother again... having trouble with copying the vserver. (note: the version i have does not work with -m clone so i use vserver-copy) "E: vserver-copy: Vserver file "/etc/vservers/.conf" does not exist" vserver doesnt seem to create these .conf files for some reason 1277779440 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1277779465 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1277780453 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@d025227.adsl.hansenet.de 1277780863 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277780863 N * SauLus_ SauLus 1277782480 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1277783268 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-45-169.iusacell.net 1277783676 Q * Romster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277784003 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com 1277785890 J * MooingLemur ~troy@shells195.pinchaser.com 1277786561 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.128.29 1277789116 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1277789617 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-060-114.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277789785 Q * sn00d Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277789967 Q * kaner Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277790676 J * kaner kaner@zzz.strace.org 1277790787 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.250.95 1277791763 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277791953 Q * samzor_01 Remote host closed the connection 1277792330 Q * imcsk8 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277792404 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.116.140.243 1277792598 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1277793065 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@213.238.45.2 1277793769 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1277793807 M * Hollow Bertl_zZ: pong 1277796067 J * click_ click@ti0127a340-0303.bb.online.no 1277796303 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277796316 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1277796988 J * sn00d ~ard@gw-tweakb16.kwaak.net 1277797326 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1277800692 Q * hijacker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277802082 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277802653 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1277803193 J * yarihm ~yarihm@gprs13.swisscom-mobile.ch 1277804567 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-060-114.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277806377 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1277806381 M * Bertl morning folks! 1277806444 M * Bertl Hollow: hey, I realized (just yesterday) that the wiki is using the old Logo, could you, when you get around, update it to the new one from 2006 :) 1277806502 M * Bertl (i.e. the 1.02.1 version from here: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/LOGO/) 1277807445 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277807770 J * yarihm ~yarihm@gprs29.swisscom-mobile.ch 1277809353 P * kir Leaving. 1277809584 J * petzsch1 ~markus@dslb-088-075-122-140.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277809913 Q * petzsch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277810095 N * petzsch1 petzsch 1277810222 Q * zbyniu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277810461 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1277810974 M * Chlorek daniel_hozac: your repo is down? 1277811132 M * Bertl http://mirror.fubra.com/rpm.hozac.com/dhozac/ 1277811336 M * Chlorek thanks 1277811352 M * Bertl np 1277812270 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1277812658 N * click_ click 1277812979 M * biz 13 1277813000 M * Bertl 42 1277813029 M * biz :) 1277814043 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277814242 J * yarihm ~yarihm@gprs49.swisscom-mobile.ch 1277814792 Q * kolorafa Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net 1277814804 J * emcepe ~mcp@wolk-project.de 1277814964 J * kolorafa ~kolorafa@irc.kolorafa.dlk.pl 1277815185 Q * mcp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277815185 N * emcepe mcp 1277815509 J * Gonzo ~sh@80.69.41.3 1277815532 N * Gonzo StefanH 1277815599 M * StefanH Good morning everybody. I would like to ask for latest news / opinions regarding "Ubuntu" and "upstart" as a vserver together with debian as a host. 1277815615 M * StefanH Is it possible? Do I need special Versions / Patches? 1277815695 M * Bertl possible, but you need to adjust a few things to make upstart happy 1277815739 M * StefanH is there an FAQ, Article or something, which I could read? 1277815753 M * StefanH and hi Bertl, btw, greetings from derjohn :) 1277815764 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues 1277815798 M * Bertl (but take it with a grain of salt, not everything there is necessary) 1277815924 M * StefanH ok. I think, I'm going to try it with ubuntu 10.04 LTS - thanks a lot! 1277816088 M * Bertl you're welcome! and send greetings to derjohn :) 1277816090 M * Chlorek hm, there is no pae in dhozac's repo kernels 1277816175 M * Bertl what would you need it for? 1277816301 M * Chlorek memtotal is 8G and i can't migrate to 64bit 1277816407 M * daniel_hozac why not? 1277816436 M * daniel_hozac your guests wouldn't need to be upgraded. 1277816476 M * daniel_hozac but yeah, no PAE is simply because i have no means to test it. 1277816531 M * Chlorek if you will include pae in your kernel i can test it 1277816587 M * Bertl and why is it that you cannot go the 64bit way? 1277816617 M * Chlorek it's dedicated server in rack 1277816648 M * Bertl and the hoster forbids 64bit? 1277816753 M * Chlorek maybe, i don't know, but i have to many data and working services on this machine to change 1277816817 M * Chlorek it's just impossible 1277816900 M * Bertl k, so let's say it is inconvenient for you, and it is also inconvenient for you to build a custom kernel with PAE enabled ... lucky you that daniel_hozac seems willing to do the work for you :) 1277816931 M * Chlorek heh ;) 1277817933 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1277818000 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-122-140.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277818200 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1277818361 Q * StefanH Quit: Ex-Chat 1277820901 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1277821861 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1277821874 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1277822665 J * [Xiru] ~Xiru]@187.58.141.41 1277822750 M * [Xiru] hello 1277822772 M * [Xiru] does anybody here could help me with a kernel message from vserver? 1277822861 M * [Xiru] http://pastebin.com/ReeVnRQm, 1277822865 M * [Xiru] http://pastebin.com/ReeVnRQm 1277823625 Q * [Xiru] Quit: Saindo 1277823902 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1277825453 J * MeCooL mecool@94.128.57.193 1277826360 A * MeCooL Hi 1277826450 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1277826464 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-122-140.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277826562 Q * petzsch 1277826586 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-122-140.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277826626 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1277826780 J * dna ~dna@p54BC8B1E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1277826830 Q * petzsch 1277826838 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-122-140.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277827212 Q * vserver_guy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277827869 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1277831117 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277831472 J * geb ~geb@mars.gebura.eu.org 1277831971 M * geb hihi 1277831977 M * geb oups :) 1277831978 M * geb hi 1277831988 M * Bertl hi :) 1277832021 M * geb hey, glad to see you here, i just had some questions for you 1277832061 M * geb one of my vserver host just crashed 2 times this week (after ~300 days of uptime) 1277832075 M * geb the first time, i didn't saw any message, today , i saw http://pastebin.toile-libre.org/?show=57584 1277832113 M * geb it is a 2.6.26-debian (yeah i know, please don't laught, it was installed before i get hand on, and reboot wasn't an option) 1277832180 M * geb do you have any idea of what can the problem being ? 1277832211 M * geb we just activated init=plain for a vserver , do you know if it can cause some bugs with this bad kernel ? 1277832229 M * geb do you have any suggestion except updating the kernel (planned) ? 1277832233 A * geb stops asking :) 1277832454 M * Bertl the stack trace you uploaded is not a crash per se 1277832483 M * Bertl it basically is a debug measure to get some information about processes which take longer than a specified amount (in the kernel) 1277832509 M * Bertl in this case, syslogd and asterisk caused the dump 1277832522 M * Bertl (both rather unlikely to take 120s in kernel space) 1277832550 Q * ruskie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277832552 M * Bertl regarding kernel: well, we know it is horribly broken and you have been really lucky that it lasted that long :) 1277832564 M * geb yeah, i understand, but it is the only one message i get 1277832593 M * Bertl do you have a serial console attached? 1277832608 M * geb yeah, i constently repeated that, with a "please let me change it" :) 1277832636 M * geb ipmi, but i don't think the one who rebooted the host has take care of messages if they were some 1277832669 M * Bertl okay, that should be logged and archived somewhere (as general rule of operation) 1277832685 M * Bertl easier to do with serial consoles, as you can simply keep a log :) 1277832697 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1277832736 M * geb sure :) 1277832740 M * Bertl when the 'crash' happens, it would also be a good idea to see if the magic sysreq can be used to gather more information 1277832757 M * Bertl (check that it works with your ipmi setup when the host is running fine) 1277832827 M * Bertl but even if you figure out what causes the 'hangs', all you can do is avoid the scenario (besides updating to a more recent/working kernel of course) 1277833082 M * geb yeah, fosco thought about an hardware problem, as we had 300days of uptime and just saw some massive increase of interrupts before the crashs 1277833121 M * geb (i pasted you the url of graphs in /query) 1277833231 M * Bertl hmm, the entropy pool seems quite empty to me, no? 1277833295 M * Bertl and the timer interrupts drastically increased before the crash? 1277833320 M * geb yeah, ssh bruteforces :( 1277833347 M * Bertl so, an empty entropy pool is a possible reason for the kernel 'hang' IMHO 1277833371 M * geb (i asked folks to install fail2ban and configure it to use /etc/hosts.{allow,deny}, as it should be very very intrusive if we start to filter on the host) ) 1277833374 M * Bertl although it is unlikely that syslog will require random values 1277833381 M * geb hum, never thought about that 1277833405 M * Bertl I would consider installing an entropy source 1277833411 M * geb it is not the first time the entropy pool is that low, it have been for weeks 1277833438 M * Bertl at least two week, according to the graphs, yes :) 1277833673 M * Bertl so my money would be on low entropy :) 1277833785 Q * gnuk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277834157 M * geb hehe :) 1277834169 M * geb don't you think it can be an hardware problem ? 1277834240 Q * arekm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277834340 M * geb got to leave, thanks a lot for your time :) 1277834344 M * geb have a good one :) 1277834352 M * Bertl you too, cya 1277834365 M * geb (i will keep you in touch, how much money do you bet on the entropy ;) ? ) 1277834394 M * Bertl 20 bucks :) 1277834922 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277837185 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org 1277843801 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.174.19.86 1277844185 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1277844661 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1277845076 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1277845463 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1277846363 Q * eja Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277847681 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@d004159.adsl.hansenet.de 1277850550 Q * DreamerC Write error: connection closed 1277850552 J * DreamerC ~DreamerC@122-116-181-118.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1277851435 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1277852999 J * dude dude@shell.hd.chalmers.se 1277853028 N * dude Guest1544 1277853045 N * Guest1544 isodude 1277853181 M * isodude Hey, I am wondering about how KSM memory deduplication and vserver plays along. I.e if you run alot of apache processes inside vservers, would dedup be needed to be enabled for apache or could it be handled from vserver? 1277853268 M * Bertl ksm works by telling the kernel that certain pages 'should' be checked for possible sharing 1277853291 M * Bertl so, if your apache processes use the proper madvise calls, the kernel will check 1277853305 M * isodude What I thought then. 1277853333 M * Bertl but chances are quite small that the apache processes will have common pages except for those already shared by e.g. unification or multi threading 1277853493 M * isodude So the apache will share memory between processes on different vservers? 1277853548 M * isodude will be running alot of vservers on one machine containing mostly apache and mysql, so I'm trying to figure out how the memory will be affected. 1277853588 M * isodude IPv6 worked nicely in ubuntu lucid btw and via the vserver interface. Nicely done! :) 1277853758 M * Bertl well, if the guests are unified, then the read only portions of apache and mysql will be shared (as well as the libraries) given that they are properly unified 1277853792 M * Bertl take care in regard to prelinking, as it might create slightly different libraries :) 1277853826 M * Bertl and kudos for ipv6 mainly go to bonbons 1277854004 M * isodude cool, found this. http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/6to4/noipv4.html 1277854038 M * isodude I actually added two rows to the wiki. >_> 1277854047 M * isodude .. back then.. 1277854129 M * isodude well, I want to have the datastorage nfs-mounted completely so it could be messy I guess. Depending on how vserver finds out which files are the same. 1277854152 M * Bertl all is based on inodes 1277854174 M * Bertl i.e. when the inode numer is the same, the kernel will not create additional caches/mapping 1277854177 M * Bertl +s 1277854251 M * isodude ok, so I want to show that. 1277854267 M * isodude kudos >> bonbons then, good work. 1277854314 M * isodude Going to test out AppArmor also, will probably write some blog about it, didn't find anything about it, you know? 1277854360 M * Bertl hmm, IIRC AppArmor died 2008 or so? 1277854462 M * isodude https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap#AppArmor+Confinement 1277854540 M * Bertl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmor 1277854633 M * isodude What I know of Ubuntu plans on using it.. 1277854692 M * Bertl well, maybe they got sick of SeLinux and now that Tomoyo is in the kernel, they found something exotic (AppArmor) to revive :) 1277855100 M * isodude https://apparmor.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page 1277855154 M * isodude https://apparmor.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ReleaseNotes_2_5 1277855167 M * Bertl so it was revived :) 1277855214 M * isodude Why doesn't wikipedia link to kernel.org 1277855413 M * Bertl no idea, add an entry 1277855514 M * isodude added link >_> 1277855553 M * isodude so, I will start figuring out how vserver plays along in this later this day. 1277855606 M * isodude Anything on DBus and VServer btw? 1277855651 M * isodude It was a well worth google-search anyhow =) 1277855784 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1277855798 M * Bertl dbus works with Linux-VServer but is kind-of orthogonal 1277855911 M * isodude how do you mean with orthogonal in this context?