1277424041 M * Bertl sounds like ...
1277424055 M * Bertl dustball: care to explain what job you are applying for?
1277424080 M * dustball if i tell you you'll kill me...
1277424084 M * Chlorek dustball: just ssh to host and enter the guest if you are admin on this server
1277424095 M * Chlorek then you can do anything
1277424102 M * dustball it specialist
1277424123 M * dustball thats not the task. i have to do that from the users account
1277424136 M * dustball god dammit... i am dumb <.<
1277424143 M * Chlorek yep
1277424147 M * fLoo ssh root@localhost
1277424150 M * fLoo vserver <guest> enter
1277424151 M * fLoo done
1277424172 M * dustball no, its a remote server
1277424177 M * fLoo LOL
1277424182 M * Bertl so ... IT specialist ... hmmm
1277424189 M * fLoo s/localhost/remote-ip
1277424190 M * Chlorek so ssh root@remotehost
1277424210 M * Bertl shouldn't an IT specialist know how to set a password in unix?
1277424211 M * dustball well its an apprenticeship
1277424223 M * dustball i aint yet, i wanna be one
1277424291 M * Chlorek you need to lern a little about linux
1277424293 M * fLoo ok dustball, ssh into the host then, change into the guest with the command i adviced you to use earlier, and change the password using the 'passwd' command in the shel
1277424295 M * Chlorek not about vserver
1277424325 M * Bertl dustball: fair enough!
1277424326 M * fLoo or simply do 'passwd <user>' to change the password for a specific user on the target box
1277424476 M * dustball the server didnt put an entry for my user... O_o
1277424480 M * fLoo but tbh: I think dustball is messing up the definitions of SysCP/Webshell/VServer/Admin-Account/User
1277424519 M * fLoo dustball may you please tell me in a way i can understand what you're trying todo at the moment ?
1277424520 M * dustball god dammit >_>
1277424531 J * aj__ ~aj@d064135.adsl.hansenet.de
1277424541 M * dustball i created a customer. now i want to upload a mailserver from the customer-account
1277424560 M * fLoo dude
1277424564 M * fLoo you cant upload a "mailserver"
1277424581 M * dustball create... yeah i know
1277424612 M * fLoo if you've created a customer in SysCP-Panel, then this user hasnt any rights to "create a mailserver"
1277424619 M * fLoo thats what the sysadmin is for
1277424650 M * dustball well the exact task is "create an emailaccount as a customer and test it"
1277424676 M * fLoo if you've setup the ftpd correctly, then the user _may_ upload files to the server, no more, no less (and do some configuration for his/her domain)
1277424700 M * fLoo email-account ? you were talking about a mailserver
1277424840 M * fLoo Bertl : can you supply me with the default config for the squeeze vserver kernel ?
1277424880 M * Bertl nope
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1277424970 M * dustball i thought i'd need a mailserver for the account O_o
1277424990 M * fLoo dustball : the mailserver is part of the operating system, not of the user-account
1277425009 M * dustball hm okay
1277425019 M * fLoo and if you've setup SysCP there is already a mailserver installed within it
1277425054 M * fLoo and tbh: please read the documentations, the things you are are absolut linux-basics and have nothing todo with linux-vserver'ing
1277425065 M * fLoo s/are/ask
1277425100 M * dustball okay thanks, i wasn't sure about all that stuff
1277425136 M * fLoo you got your task, now its up to you to read the manuals :P
1277425153 M * Chlorek rtfm
1277425167 M * fLoo .. in other words .. ;)
1277425177 M * Chlorek ;)
1277425246 M * dustball i hate docs but okay
1277425264 M * fLoo lol
1277425284 M * fzylogic if that's so, you might just be getting into the wrong line of work  :)
1277425286 M * fLoo then i suggest not to target anything related to be an "IT Professional"
1277425294 M * fLoo haha same thought ;)
1277425322 M * fLoo 02:21:53 up 19 min, 2 users, load average: 10.59, 7.48, 3.45
1277425326 M * fLoo screw my box -.-
1277425375 M * Chlorek o_O
1277425376 M * Chlorek  01:22:28 up 255 days,  7:02,  2 users,  load average: 1.91, 1.36, 1.57
1277425379 M * Chlorek ;)
1277425417 M * fLoo i'm building the new kernel ..
1277425426 M * fLoo but nice uptime ;)
1277425484 M * Chlorek thanks ;)
1277425595 M * fLoo Linux RT1617 2.6.34-vs2.3.0.36.30.4.pre8-coresec #1 SMP Fri Jun 25 02:17:17 CEST 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
1277425596 M * fLoo done ;)
1277425974 M * dustball those tests are not about the process of being, but of learning >.<
1277426032 M * fLoo pardon ?
1277426052 M * dustball ah who cares. i am off.
1277426210 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1277432169 J * nwmcsween ~Nathan@69.176.168.204
1277432206 M * nwmcsween quick question vserver-utils depends on vconfig yet ip provides what vconfig does (from a glance) is there any way to just use ip instead of vconfig?
1277434158 M * Bertl hmm, how do you create a vlan with 'ip'?
1277434363 M * nwmcsween ip link add link eth0 name something type vlan ?
1277434417 M * Bertl RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
1277434425 M * nwmcsween meh 1 second
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1277434851 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@d003221.adsl.hansenet.de
1277434987 M * nwmcsween ip link add link eth0 name myvlan type vlan id 4
1277434995 M * nwmcsween ip link
1277435035 M * nwmcsween ip link delete myvlan
1277435074 M * Bertl well, but what you want is something like eth0.4
1277435086 M * nwmcsween change the name to eth0.4
1277435120 M * Bertl gives me: eth0.5@eth0
1277435133 M * Bertl instead of eth0.5
1277435138 M * nwmcsween huh worked for me 1 sec
1277435172 M * nwmcsween ah spoke to soon
1277435210 M * nwmcsween hmm no idea I just noticed vconfig was deprecated  networking is not my thing
1277435260 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1277435260 N * SauLus_ SauLus
1277435316 M * Bertl yeah, I guess daniel_hozac will switch to ip (iproute2) at some point
1277435343 M * Bertl but if you don't need vlans, you basically can ignore the dependancy (at least to some degree)
1277436333 M * daniel_hozac that doesn't do the same thing.
1277436349 M * daniel_hozac that won't let you aggregate VLAN x from more than one interface.
1277436392 M * daniel_hozac (IIRC)
1277436867 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1277436872 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1277453972 P * kir 
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1277469581 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1277469587 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1277470182 M * oli moin Bertl 
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1277470676 M * fLoo hey Bertl
1277471331 Q * fLoo 
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1277474086 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-cb3771d5.08-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1277474173 J * mecool mecool@94.128.37.99
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1277475023 M * geb hi
1277475098 M * geb Bertl, do you know a kernel devel / security related chan ?
1277475125 M * geb got a good friend looking for some help, but he didn't succeded to find a good place to ask :)
1277475332 N * mecool MeCooL
1277476441 M * Mr_Smoke There are people in here who know a bit about grsec, you can always ask, they might pick it up
1277476532 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1277476620 M * Bertl geb: #kernelnewbies should have some pointers
1277476689 M * geb thanks :)
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1277482910 M * vserver_guy hi troops
1277482938 M * vserver_guy if you are in a vserver, i know you cannot natively use mknod
1277482962 M * vserver_guy but is it possible to "copy" a /dev/null ?
1277483003 M * vserver_guy or is it just a case of adding the MKNOD bcap?
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1277483181 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF472BD.dip.t-dialin.net
1277483376 M * sid3windr you can mknod it from the host box
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1277485850 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF472BD.dip.t-dialin.net
1277485864 M * vserver_guy yeah, i know the host can
1277485870 M * vserver_guy as another question
1277485884 M * vserver_guy how do hard links work in a vserver guest - does it just inherit them?
1277485897 M * vserver_guy so if i rbind a directory in a guest
1277485983 M * Bertl hard links are untouched, unless marked as CoW link
1277485993 M * Bertl rbind has nothing to do with hardlinks
1277485996 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1277486103 M * vserver_guy can you hard link /dev/null in a guest?
1277486113 M * vserver_guy its for ssh chroots within a guest
1277486186 M * Bertl hard links work for files only, you cannot hard link a directory, device node or special
1277486205 M * Bertl but you can rbind the dev dir
1277486219 M * vserver_guy okey dokey
1277486221 M * vserver_guy thanks big man
1277486232 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1277486278 M * vserver_guy is there a big risk giving a guest priveleges to make nodes?
1277486335 M * Bertl yes
1277486359 M * vserver_guy ok
1277486380 M * vserver_guy but rbinding the the guest fstab to the host /dev/null should be ok?
1277486413 M * Bertl you can rbind /dev not /dev/null
1277486427 M * Bertl where rbind for a single dir is not different from bind
1277486439 M * vserver_guy ok doke!
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