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1277350816 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1277350821 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1277375512 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
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1277378551 M * fLoo is there a way to mount a networkshare in a vserver ?
1277378707 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1277378857 M * fLoo [solved]: edit the fstab on the hostnode
1277379154 J * Psy0rz psy@lounge.datux.nl
1277379169 M * Psy0rz is there a reason apache processes hang on restart_syscall(... in a vserver?
1277379495 M * _Shiva__ fLoo: ..or use /etc/vsevers/<GUEST>/fstab.remote to mount the with guest namespaces
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1277380972 M * daniel_hozac Psy0rz: that just means it's waiting for something. check what syscall it is.
1277381478 M * fLoo daniel_hozac: how far you've come with vserver-stat ? may i help you ?
1277381795 M * daniel_hozac no round tuits.
1277382072 M * fLoo k
1277382479 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1277382483 M * Bertl morning folks!
1277382567 M * fLoo yo
1277383408 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com
1277383544 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-060-232.pools.arcor-ip.net
1277385603 M * fLoo so
1277385990 M * Psy0rz daniel_hozac how can i see what its waiting for?
1277385997 M * Psy0rz since its already hanging when i start the strace
1277386004 M * Psy0rz so i cant see the previous action
1277386330 M * Bertl what does it output right now?
1277386343 M * Bertl (the strace)
1277386823 J * dieter ~dieter@93.83.184.22
1277387048 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1277388002 M * Bertl welcome dieter!
1277388062 M * dieter hi Bertl do you have any idea why http://rpm.hozac.com/ isn't working?
1277388103 M * dieter especially  the centos repos
1277388112 M * Bertl I presume daniel_hozac is working on that right now (unless it is some kind of routing issue beyond his control)
1277388134 M * Bertl but IIRC, there was a mirror for the centos repository
1277388201 M * Bertl http://mirror.fubra.com/rpm.hozac.com/dhozac/centos/
1277388216 M * Bertl but it doesn't seem to be up-to-date
1277388364 M * Bertl http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/rpm.hozac.com/dhozac/centos/5/vserver/
1277388370 M * Bertl another one :)
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1277388415 M * dieter well its not a big problem for me at the moment, I just encountered the problem when I was updating one of my vserver-systems
1277388425 M * dieter but the mirrors are working!
1277388596 M * Bertl excellent then, nevertheless, I'm sure daniel_hozac will get the main repository up and running ASAP
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1277392657 J * oli ~oli@62.152.161.117
1277392705 M * oli Hi all, i have a strange issue with upstart in init style plain: VServer starts just fine without any problems, but as soon as i invoke a initctl stop ssh nothing happens. THe command does not end
1277393026 M * Bertl well, I'd guess this is an upstart problem
1277393051 M * Bertl at least, if upstart is running, and initctl is contacting upstart then Linux-VServer is not really involved
1277393332 M * oli on other vm's i do not have issues with upstart
1277393347 M * Bertl VMs being?
1277393399 M * oli virtualbox and vmware Ubuntu 10.04
1277393453 M * Bertl and you tested the very same guest there?
1277393482 M * oli no, becaus you need the corrections to start Upstart in lv
1277393513 M * Bertl okay, so not really comparable
1277393519 M * oli sure
1277393529 M * Bertl what does the upstart log say about the stop?
1277393538 M * oli currently i try to figure down the problem
1277393577 M * oli it seems, that the initctl try to write to dbus and get EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) back
1277393589 M * Bertl is dbus running?
1277393593 M * oli yes
1277393601 M * Bertl what does the dbus log say?
1277393686 M * oli just have to say dbus that it should log
1277393706 M * Bertl do you use single ip special casing?
1277393721 M * Bertl if so, it might be a configuration problem
1277393866 M * oli no single ip special casing is disabled
1277394346 M * Bertl was just an idea ...
1277394504 M * oli it looks for me like initctl has a problem with communicating with dbus
1277394514 M * oli is there a known problem with dbus and lv?
1277394571 M * Bertl not that we know about, what problem does it have? and is it the guest dbus?
1277394627 M * oli that's the strace of an inictl command: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/15937
1277394651 M * oli may you have a look on that?
1277394711 M * Bertl the EAGAIN is normal here
1277394721 M * Bertl it just means that there is no more data available
1277394727 M * oli ah okay
1277394743 M * Bertl as you see it is already communicating via fd 3
1277394753 M * oli after the last -1 initctl just waits on something which does not happen
1277394757 M * Bertl line 97/99
1277394778 M * oli i see
1277394792 M * Bertl looks to me like dbus? is not answering, for whatever reason
1277394856 M * oli may that be lv related? Do you need more informations / traces?
1277394921 M * Bertl debug output from dbus should shed some light on it
1277395068 M * oli http://paste.linux-vserver.org/15938 -> after the last line was shown i started initctl stop, but no more lines shown up from strace dbus
1277395319 M * Bertl well, neither you nor I are dbus developers, so looking at the straces and guessing what decisions dbus made won't work ...
1277395353 M * Bertl i.e. I'd suggest to enable some kind of human readable dbus debugging (no idea how to do that, I usually avoid it :)
1277395361 M * oli ;)
1277395503 M * oli upstart is such a sensless thing in ubuntu server - they does not care on lv bad boys :)
1277395564 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1277395570 M * petzsch i've got a question about IPv6 and linux-vserver ... what is one supposed to enter for mask for his /64 IPv6 address?
1277395717 M * petzsch following http://linux-vserver.org/IPv6 i would leave it blank... but how would the guest know when to use the gateway and when not?
1277395773 M * Bertl oli: well, upstart is quite young and full of bugs
1277395798 M * Bertl oli: but in this case, I think your problem is with dbus or the setup
1277395813 M * oli ok all right, maybe ubuntu folks can help
1277395824 M * Bertl petzsch: how about using the 'prefix' ?
1277395863 M * petzsch makes sense :-) i'll give it a try
1277395877 M * petzsch thx
1277395884 M * Bertl np
1277395919 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection
1277395956 M * oli thx bertl :) 
1277396365 Q * dieter Remote host closed the connection
1277396668 M * oli i have another strange issue with upstart: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/15939 - why is the init process not terminating, may that be the same problem here?
1277396790 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1277397134 M * Bertl well, if you do a stop, a signal is sent to the guest init
1277397153 M * Bertl (the same signal which is sent when the user presses ctrl-alt-del) 
1277397186 M * Bertl when your upstart is not configured to handle that signal, nothing happens and after some time, the timeout kicks in and kills the guest
1277397500 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
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1277398818 M * oli it looks like upstart is not configurable
1277398873 M * Bertl regarding ctrl-alt-del? others have configured that properly, so I doubt it
1277398962 M * oli hmm is there anywhere a configuration example?
1277399327 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.174.19.86
1277399648 M * Bertl I hope the upstart folks have some?
1277400103 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1277400136 M * Wonka re
1277400214 M * Bertl wb Wonka
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1277400428 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-76-24-80-97.hsd1.nh.comcast.net
1277401036 Q * Wonka Quit: damn, forgot something
1277401450 M * fLoo Bertl : go for pre7 ;)
1277402123 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1277402164 M * Wonka re. once again.
1277402420 M * Bertl wb once again! :)
1277402428 M * Bertl fLoo: just uploaded pre8 :)
1277402663 M * fLoo WOW
1277402682 M * fLoo what other changes did u make and thanks!
1277402819 M * petzsch fLoo: is that cgroup issue related to 2.6.32.15 as well?
1277402871 M * fLoo no
1277402871 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature
1277402884 M * fLoo 2.6.32.15 doesnt use cgroups afaik
1277402893 M * fLoo 2.6.33+ afaik
1277402911 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1277402936 M * Bertl no changes, except for the vroot fix
1277402964 M * fLoo ok
1277402981 M * fLoo did u manage to adjust the CoW parts you mentioned ?
1277403006 M * Bertl nope, not yet
1277403017 M * fLoo ok thanks for the info
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1277403731 M * petzsch fLoo: in fact i use cgroup memory and cpu limits with 2.6.32.15 and the vs2.3.0.36.29.4 linux-vserver patch
1277403752 M * petzsch on a 64 bit system with 64 bit guests and haven't seen anything wrong in dmesg etc
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1277407218 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@d065204.adsl.hansenet.de
1277407268 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg
1277408811 J * fzylogic ~fzylogic@dsl081-243-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net
1277409267 M * fLoo petzsch : please try the following
1277409283 M * fLoo echo "VIRT_MEM" > /etc/vservers/<guestname>/flags
1277409301 M * fLoo and then vserver <guest> restart
1277409314 M * petzsch allready have that enabled on my vservers
1277409321 M * fLoo mmh strange
1277409328 M * daniel_hozac no, not really.
1277409331 M * fLoo then its a bug which affects only the 2.6.33+ patches
1277409358 M * fLoo petzsch : did you find a good way to enable cpu hard limits ?
1277409365 M * petzsch my cflags: VIRT_UPTIME VIRT_CPU VIRT_LOAD VIRT_MEM
1277409378 M * fLoo same here
1277409395 M * fLoo daniel_hozac : please tell me what you've had in your mind ;)
1277409398 M * petzsch i've had cpu hardlimits enabled but didn't see any reason to choose that over soft limits
1277409413 M * fLoo petzsch : so did i, fine
1277409427 M * petzsch because it'll turn out your cpu is idle most of the time :-D
1277409433 M * fLoo correct :)
1277409451 M * fLoo i am running 12 vservers on my old Celeron 2.4 Ghz / 1.5gb ram ;)
1277409464 M * fLoo best virtualisation on the market for my needs
1277409471 M * fLoo i simply love this sh** ;)
1277409498 M * petzsch i'm planing to run 23 vservers on a hetzner EQ6 (smales unit with 512 MB RAM)
1277409555 M * petzsch IPv4 /27 and IPv6 /64 subnet are allready there
1277409608 M * fLoo yep, i am running ipv6 in my local network too
1277409650 M * petzsch if i wanted to do cpu hard limits there i could garantee ~463 MHz per guest... who would want that? :)
1277409681 M * fLoo haha :)
1277409711 M * fLoo my guests have 64-512 mb ram ;)
1277409725 M * fLoo *64-256
1277409733 M * fLoo not much but enough for my needs
1277409793 M * petzsch my secondary dns run's on 200 MB xen vm (only powerdns+mysql) no problems with that either... i guess with a lamp stack, mailserver, virus+spam filter you would probably wan't more
1277409879 M * fLoo correct
1277409964 M * fLoo having bnc,2xdns,www,mysql,mailer,ipv6,eggdrop and ftpsite here
1277409975 M * fLoo the other 3 vms are for testing purposes only
1277409979 M * fLoo and most of the time offline
1277410212 M * fLoo k cooking new kernel afk ;)
1277410257 M * petzsch i prefer mine well done ;-)
1277410273 M * fLoo mine gets better everytime i build it ;)
1277410280 M * fLoo messing around with unnecessary modules
1277410291 M * fLoo still have some shit in my kernel ..
1277410342 M * petzsch mine is based on a debian config... as long as the modules aren't loaded i don't care... even if building a new version takes like 45minutes on these rather powerfull i7-920 systems :)
1277410364 M * fLoo i like my kernel to build within 15 mins on my old celeron
1277410384 M * fLoo on my i7-920 (6gb ddr3) it builds within 2 mins ..
1277410404 M * fLoo with concurrency 9 (all 8 cores)
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1277419139 Q * ghislain Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1277420620 J * dustball ~cyrus@DSL01.83.171.148.123.ip-pool.NEFkom.net
1277420636 M * dustball hello. anyone here still awake?
1277420766 M * Bertl yep
1277420812 M * dustball cool thing. okay, point is this: i got a vserver, its remote and i got no fucking idea how to connect to it, so i can edit the data (i am admin of the server)
1277420908 M * Chlorek and?
1277420946 M * dustball can you tell me a possibility to find out the neccessary data from the webshell?
1277420991 M * Bertl hmm, but you have an IP, yes?
1277420992 Q * DoberMann Remote host closed the connection
1277421005 J * DoberMann ~james@2a01:e35:8b44:84c0:250:fcff:fe46:72a4
1277421009 M * dustball yeah
1277421019 M * Bertl did you try ssh-ing to that IP?
1277421103 M * dustball permission denied
1277421114 M * dustball god dammit, that guy is mean
1277421115 M * dustball :D
1277421209 M * dustball okay, dammit. i can't change anything on the server itself. other point: how can i start a traceroute from the webshell?
1277421226 M * Bertl I have no idea what kind of 'webshell
1277421237 M * Bertl (you are talking about :)
1277421280 M * dustball uhm... the guy gave me login-datas for an admin-account on a vServer. i have to start a traceroute from there
1277421294 M * dustball and with webshell i mean the web-interface of the admin-panel
1277421307 M * Bertl okay, you're sure it is a Linux-VServer guest?
1277421342 M * dustball well for an admin-account
1277421378 M * dustball its definitely a linux-vserver
1277421401 M * Bertl okay, so what kind of panel is the web-panel?
1277421417 M * dustball SysCP
1277421513 M * Bertl http://wiki.syscp.org/docs/start
1277421520 M * dustball DAMMIT okay i am in the server, just couldn't find the right password until now
1277421523 M * dustball via ssh
1277421538 M * Bertl good, then everything should be fine, no?
1277421585 M * dustball yeah. thank you :)
1277421593 M * Bertl np, have fun!
1277421707 M * Chlorek dustball: cpanel?
1277421735 M * dustball no, syscp
1277421744 M * dustball but doesnt matter, i solved the problem
1277421751 M * Chlorek ok
1277421760 M * Chlorek good for you ;)
1277421785 M * dustball omg... i love those things
1277421866 M * dustball i am applicating for a job, my tests are to trace the site without vtunnel, create vtunnel, trace with vtunnel on... and now i am at the vserver-point. "start a traceroute to your "home-ip" from the server. save the result in a txt-data"
1277422853 M * dustball okay uhm may i ask another question?
1277422889 M * dustball Bertl?
1277422912 M * Bertl sure, as long as it is on-topic
1277422931 M * dustball yeah. everything with vserver
1277423017 M * dustball i created an account for a user now. the server is still nearly a virgin and i want to upload a mailserver for it (as the user). how can i do that? (i got nearly everything i need, i only miss the information of how to create an interface and ftp for the user)
1277423209 M * Bertl not really Linux-VServer related, more related to the guest distro
1277423230 M * Bertl i.e. check what distro your guest uses and ask there (or google for it)
1277423670 M * fLoo lol
1277423673 M * fLoo Bertl still awake ? :D
1277423716 M * Bertl still awake
1277423835 M * dustball okay... as i created a user and try to ssh it... what's the password?? O_o
1277423925 M * fLoo sorry to disturb this discussion but isnt this somehow linux-basics in a nutshell stuff ?
1277423997 M * dustball dont know but thats why i ask O_o