1276992732 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1276993875 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1276994392 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.6.140 1276994792 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-111-42.iusacell.net 1276995278 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1276996652 N * Bertl_ICFP Bertl_zZ 1277000377 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1277002827 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@d075002.adsl.hansenet.de 1277003236 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277003236 N * SauLus_ SauLus 1277007168 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277007830 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAAP8B.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1277010787 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1277011597 J * balbir ~balbir@122.166.161.78 1277011961 J * allquixotic ~allquixot@static.128.235.40.188.clients.your-server.de 1277012041 Q * allquixotic 1277013946 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@g228048228.adsl.alicedsl.de 1277015317 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection 1277015616 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@g228048228.adsl.alicedsl.de 1277017698 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection 1277017708 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.27.145 1277020890 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1277023296 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-112-053.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277023323 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@g228048228.adsl.alicedsl.de 1277023633 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection 1277025367 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1277025399 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-87-78-28-185.netcologne.de 1277025810 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277028307 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_ICFP 1277031160 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1277031181 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.165.40 1277034249 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.84.193 1277034538 J * Yellowcap ~yellow12@business-188-111-074-098.static.arcor-ip.net 1277034540 M * Yellowcap hi guiys 1277034541 M * Yellowcap -i 1277034554 M * Yellowcap :D 1277034557 M * Yellowcap VOLK! 1277034558 M * Yellowcap s 1277034680 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277035379 M * petzsch Yellowcap: hi 1277035419 M * vserver_guy hi 1277035460 M * chaotix Hi. 1277035512 M * chaotix My squeeze-based vservers don't start wird --defaulttty which doesn't start them on boot up via /etc/init.d/vservers-default. 1277035518 M * chaotix Is there a way to fix this? 1277035572 M * chaotix s/wird/with/ 1277035897 M * vserver_guy sorry - could you explain that again? 1277035955 M * chaotix 'vserver vs1-squeeze start' works fine. 1277035961 M * vserver_guy right 1277035968 M * chaotix 'vserver --defaulttty vs1-squeeze start' does not. 1277035991 M * chaotix Unfortunately, I have no idea what '--defaulttty' does, but it is used by /etc/init.d/vservers-default.\ 1277036013 M * vserver_guy I don't mean to be rude, but if you don't know what it means - why are you using it? 1277036016 M * chaotix Which in turn is the script that starts all vservers with mark 'default' on system startup. 1277036020 M * vserver_guy are you just trying to get a guest to start automatically 1277036021 M * vserver_guy ? 1277036052 M * vserver_guy if so just run the following command 1277036067 M * chaotix Yes. I just want to be able to use /etc/init.d/vservers-default start. 1277036076 M * vserver_guy echo "default" > /etc/vservers//apps/init/mark 1277036093 M * chaotix Which starts all vserver guests except the squeeze based one. 1277036123 M * chaotix Yes, I've 'marked' all guests I want to run automatically. 1277036134 M * vserver_guy including the one you are refering to? 1277036142 M * chaotix Yes. 1277036145 M * vserver_guy hmmm 1277036153 M * chaotix I traced the problem to the --defaulttty switch. 1277036162 M * vserver_guy you haven't shared the context with another vserver have you? 1277036173 M * vserver_guy cat /etc/vservers/*/context 1277036197 M * chaotix No. They are all unique. 1277036229 M * chaotix The startup script uses the --defaulttty switch. 1277036245 M * chaotix I can of course remove that, but I have no idea what it does. 1277036248 M * vserver_guy what kernel/util-vserver are you using 1277036254 M * chaotix And I cannot find any documentation regarding this. 1277036273 M * chaotix util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2883 1277036284 M * chaotix 2.6.32.15-vs2.3.0.36.29.4 1277036351 M * vserver_guy what is interesting is that on my system, there is no instance of "tty" in vservers-default 1277036363 M * chaotix It's not in the startup script. 1277036365 M * vserver_guy what distro are you using 1277036373 M * chaotix It's in some code it includes. 1277036403 M * chaotix start-vservers:${TAB}$_VSERVER --defaulttty --sync ${OPTION_DEBUG:+--debug} "\$*" ${OPTION_FLAVOR}; } 1277036427 M * chaotix It's in util-vserver/start-vservers 1277036492 M * vserver_guy what is the output of 1277036492 M * vserver_guy cat /usr/sbin/vserver | awk 'NR==2 {print $0 }' 1277036504 M * chaotix My host distro is debian lenny for the most part. 1277036526 M * chaotix # $Id: vserver 2876 2010-02-18 14:37:51Z dhozac $ 1277036575 M * vserver_guy hmm 1277036581 M * vserver_guy exact same as mine 1277036596 M * vserver_guy I guess at a push I would remove util-vserver 1277036601 M * vserver_guy make uninstall 1277036614 M * vserver_guy then re-install it, I can give you a tar of my build if you like? 1277036639 M * chaotix Do you have a squeeze based guests thats starts ok with --defaulttty? 1277036647 M * vserver_guy I don't just squeeze I'm afraid 1277036654 M * vserver_guy only a few centos and lenny guests 1277036663 M * chaotix Lenny guests work fine. 1277036669 M * chaotix I have not tried CentOS. 1277036717 M * chaotix I kind of doubt that reinstalling util-vserver will make any difference. 1277036733 M * vserver_guy I dunno then, that would be my only suggestion 1277036738 M * vserver_guy or at least upgrading your kernel to latest 1277036750 M * vserver_guy to 2.6.34-vs2.3.0.36.30.4.pre6 1277036757 M * chaotix I can't. 1277036777 M * chaotix There are some bugs regarding hashify with that one. 1277036807 M * chaotix I talk with Bertl about that a couple of days ago. I thinks it should be fixed some time soon. 1277036833 M * vserver_guy yeah, you've exhausted all my knowledge 1277036842 M * chaotix :-) 1277036843 M * vserver_guy you'll need to wait on dhoziac or bertl 1277036846 M * chaotix But thanks. 1277036864 M * vserver_guy no worries! I hate in when I ask questions in here and there's nothing bu silence! 1277036887 M * chaotix I can understand that feeling :-) 1277037580 M * vserver_guy does vhashify help you that much? 1277037586 M * vserver_guy i've never used it as it never seemed to work! 1277037606 M * vserver_guy on most of the different kernel versions I've used 1277037673 M * chaotix I only have lenny guests and one squeeze guest. 1277037703 M * chaotix My smallest guest has a footprint of 64MB after hashification. 1277037712 M * chaotix 270MB before. 1277037774 M * chaotix Although it's not the hdd space I worry about the most. 1277037810 M * chaotix If the executables are hardlink it saves memory. 1277037873 M * chaotix And that is rather scarce on my plugcomputer :-) 1277038118 M * chaotix But with 5 guests and the host system of course, I have ca. 400MB of 512MB RAM available. 1277038331 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@sadsl-246059.rol.raiffeisen.net 1277041361 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1277042524 J * petzsch1 ~markus@dslb-094-222-185-023.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277042572 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277042900 Q * petzsch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277043170 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAAAQEU.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1277043878 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1277044027 N * petzsch1 petzsch 1277044140 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@g228048228.adsl.alicedsl.de 1277044899 M * daniel_hozac chaotix: so other guests work fine? 1277044907 M * chaotix daniel_hozac: Yes 1277044918 M * chaotix But I just found a workaround. 1277044944 M * chaotix When I link /etc/vserver/name/apps/init/tty to /dev/stdout it works fine. 1277044958 M * chaotix Although I get the output, of course. 1277044990 M * chaotix I don't know why squeeze won't start with its tty connected to /dev/null, but well... 1277047355 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277047418 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.168.24 1277047979 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@95.156.30.59 1277048087 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@95.156.30.59 1277048088 Q * ntrs_ Remote host closed the connection 1277048260 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.84.193 1277048260 Q * ntrs__ Remote host closed the connection 1277048307 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1277048559 P * petzsch 1277048620 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277048880 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-094-222-185-023.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277050319 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fee0:9872 1277051444 Q * Pazzo Quit: Bye! 1277051464 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@sadsl-246059.rol.raiffeisen.net 1277051590 Q * Pazzo 1277052414 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1277052492 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11 1277055342 M * vserver_guy is there a command you could run in a guest to identify it was host or guest 1277055452 M * daniel_hozac depends on your setup. 1277055461 M * daniel_hozac you can hide pretty much everything from the guest. 1277055464 M * vserver_guy i'm just setting up coloured prompts 1277055475 M * vserver_guy to identify host/guest/non-vserver hosts 1277055494 M * vserver_guy so just trying to pick a unique identifier - ie. check if a file exists etc. to find out 1277055679 M * vserver_guy ie. what can't a default guest show that the host can? 1277056002 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@g228048228.adsl.alicedsl.de 1277057975 N * BobR BobR_OoO 1277058154 Q * jrklein Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277058155 M * nkukard how does one test if you're inside a vserver? 1277058290 M * hparker It's deja-vu all over again 1277058377 M * vserver_guy lol 1277058425 A * nkukard recalls something one can test for ... urmmmmm 1277058626 M * vserver_guy i settled with checking the output of mount for hdv 1277058636 M * vserver_guy its a hack, but i couldn't think of anything off the top of my head 1277058644 J * ktwilight ~keliew@91.176.206.57 1277058870 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277058990 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-111-42.iusacell.net 1277059251 J * jop_ ~jop@home.gaulier.info 1277059256 M * jop_ Hiya 1277059323 M * jop_ Is there anyone who knows how to allow USB access to guest on last ubuntu ? (Lucid lynx, /proc/bus/usb does no longer exist, replaced by /dev/bus/usb) 1277059453 M * vserver_guy cant you just rbind it ? 1277059509 M * jop_ vserver_guy, mount --bind ? /proc is in full read only 1277059882 M * vserver_guy hmmm 1277059884 M * vserver_guy not sure 1277059894 M * vserver_guy http://linux-vserver.org/USB_Devices ? 1277059980 M * jop_ vserver_guy, already tried. Obsolete doc. Can't apply with ubuntu 10.04 1277060055 M * vserver_guy looks pretty generic? 1277060263 M * jop_ looks unusable ;) 1277060408 M * daniel_hozac yes, rbind would work. 1277060497 M * jop_ daniel_hozac, any doc ? 1277060530 M * vserver_guy at a push, heres my use of it 1277060533 M * vserver_guy ./scripts /scripts auto defaults,bind,noatime,nodiratime 0 0 1277060543 M * daniel_hozac mkdir -p /vservers//dev/bus/usb; echo "/dev/bus/usb /dev/bus/usb ext3 rbind 0 0" >> /etc/vservers//fstab 1277060550 M * vserver_guy (remove the leading .) used in the /etc/vservers//fstab 1277060638 M * jop_ I'm testing 1277060830 M * jop_ It's ok. I'll update the wiki 1277060837 M * jop_ Thank you daniel_hozac and vserver_guy ! 1277061073 Q * jop_ Quit: Quitte 1277063018 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1277063191 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-094-222-185-023.pools.arcor-ip.net 1277063727 Q * Walex Read error: Connection reset by peer 1277067750 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1277067981 Q * BenG 1277068348 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1277068416 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1277069155 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277069650 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-87-79-116-203.netcologne.de 1277070047 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277070895 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277072270 Q * hijacker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277072281 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1277073592 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1277073740 J * Piet ~Piet__@659AAAQOV.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1277075142 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-111-42.iusacell.net 1277075428 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1277077135 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving.