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1276673725 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, exp 2.3.0.36.28, grsec 2.3.0.36.28|util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2864| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute.
1276673725 T * Bertl -
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1276674245 J * Bertl herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at
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1276681600 M * harry Bertl: around?
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1276681954 A * ccxCZ stares, full of expectations
1276681957 M * ccxCZ :D
1276681967 M * harry ccxCZ: new patch is online :)
1276681981 M * ccxCZ YAY
1276681994 M * harry as i mailed about 30 mins ago
1276682018 M * harry i changed some other parameters to an unchecked atomic type
1276682031 M * harry but i wanted to check with bertl if they are really refcounters or not
1276682059 M * harry (there are more "counters" that might not be refcounters, but also should never overflow, so leave them alone for the time being"
1276682066 M * harry hope i got them all now...
1276682339 M * ccxCZ kthnx, going to patch & compile now
1276682431 M * harry let me know how things work out :)
1276682443 M * harry if problem is properly fixed etc...
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1276684221 M * harry ....
1276684658 J * vServer_User_Zz ~vserver@90.152.15.246
1276685451 M * _Shiva__ what was the preferred way to mount a cifs again..? mount it on the host onto the guest's fs and start the guest? or let the guest mount it in it's (virtual) fstab from /etc/vservers/GUEST/fstab..?
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1276685766 J * vserver_guy ~vserver@90.152.15.246
1276685893 M * vserver_guy Hi troops
1276685961 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-175-230.pools.arcor-ip.net
1276685964 M * vserver_guy i was wanting to user internal IPs with a guest as well as a public IP, but after a period of time, it defaults the primary interface to be internal and then can't ping the gateway (as it is outside of its subnet). is this normal behaviour, or have I missed a vital part of the config?
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1276690790 J * jpic ~jpic@chocolatpistache.com
1276691643 M * Bertl harry: I'm around now .. had a network outage last night which wasn't fixed till now
1276691709 M * Bertl _Shiva__: fstab.remote should be fine
1276691778 M * Bertl vserver_guy: the latter one, i.e. the config part, but not in Linux-VServer ... i.e. your problem is most likely related to a missing 'promote secondaries'
1276691795 J * http203 ~http203@d80h232.public.uconn.edu
1276691895 M * _Shiva__ Bertl: so just adding the very same line from host's /etc/fstab to guest's fstab.remote would be sufficient..? 
1276691923 M * _Shiva__ (and remove it from host's fstab of cource)
1276692065 M * _Shiva__ and one has to be sure, that module "cifs" has already been loaded in the host kernel, or how (reads: when) exactly does the namespace switch occur?
1276692117 M * Bertl correct, module needs to be loaded, syntax almost identical to the host, and you have to make sure that guest IPs are fine for the mount
1276692223 M * _Shiva__ so when specifying a credentials file - will that be on the guest or the host..? ;-)
1276692283 M * _Shiva__ and the guest needs /usr/sbin/mount.cifs i suppose?
1276693092 M * vserver_guy i'll double check, thanks boss
1276693239 M * ccxCZ harry: I have it compiled & prepared, I'll reboot when I'm near the site in case something goes wrong.
1276693284 M * Bertl _Shiva__: nope, mount happens in the guest namespace but from the host
1276693846 M * _Shiva__ ..and any referenced credential file is read from host or guest..?
1276694159 M * Bertl probably host
1276694336 M * _Shiva__ i'll try - tnx
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1276699894 M * _Shiva__ hmm.. it messes with the host's /etc/mtab on vserver-stop - actually, when starting the guest using the cifs mount in it's fstab.remote, the mount appears w/i the guest's mtab but not the host's mtab and/or /proc/mounts... on stop however the entry appears in the host's mtab..
1276699936 M * Bertl sounds strange, kernel/patch/util-vserver version?
1276699986 M * _Shiva__ 2.6.33-vs2.3.0.36.30.4 0.30.216-pre2883
1276700029 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: any idea what would cause an mtab entry on guest stop?
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1276711158 M * harry Bertl: any other atomic variables that can/are allowed to overflow?
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1276713496 M * Bertl harry: as I already said last time, every atomic counter in Linux-VServer except for the vx_info/nx_info ref counters can overflow
1276713564 M * Bertl and the ref counters themselves are quite unlikely to overflow, as that would be detected by Linux-VServer the hard way (i.e. you cannot create contexts anymore)
1276713707 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d141105.adsl.hansenet.de
1276713944 M * fLoo y0 Bertl
1276713969 M * fLoo with the actual util-vserver version 2883 is it still possible to set the limits (rss) without using cgroups ?
1276714005 M * daniel_hozac no
1276714011 M * daniel_hozac not for recent kernels.
1276714016 M * daniel_hozac it has nothing to do with util-vserver.
1276714071 M * fLoo ok so with 2.6.34 and util-vserver 2883 i need to switch to cgroups, correct ?
1276714111 M * daniel_hozac yes
1276714286 M * fLoo thanks
1276714395 M * fLoo cgroups are pretty cool as far as i've come while reading the manual
1276714415 M * fLoo its pretty much like objects and childs
1276714421 M * fLoo i like it a lot
1276714425 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@d183066.adsl.hansenet.de
1276714547 M * fLoo daniel_hozac: is it normal that when starting a new vserver its not shown in "ps aux" on the node ?
1276714595 M * Bertl on the host, yes, is expected
1276714605 M * Bertl you can view guest processes with vps
1276714632 M * fLoo ok thanks
1276714643 M * fLoo is there a patch already in work regarding the "vserver-stat" issue ?
1276714855 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1276715646 M * fLoo i've got one more question
1276715673 M * fLoo why did "Ben"s Lenny installation using cgroups contain the following line in /etc/fstab
1276715674 M * fLoo vserver /dev/cgroup cgroup cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,devices,freezer,net_cls,memory 0 0
1276715687 M * fLoo why is the name vserver ?
1276715709 M * fLoo does a filesystem called "vserver" exist ?
1276715750 J * dna ~dna@p54BCA31D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1276715811 M * daniel_hozac the name can be anything you want.
1276715815 M * daniel_hozac it's a virtual filesystem with no source.
1276715820 M * daniel_hozac name it monkeys if you want.
1276715836 M * fLoo ok i see
1276715853 M * fLoo are the cpu.shares hard or soft-limits ?
1276715858 M * daniel_hozac soft.
1276715885 M * fLoo okay
1276715937 M * Bertl I prefer to use 'none' instead of 'monkeys' btw
1276715948 M * fLoo ;)
1276715971 M * fLoo memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes & memory.limit_in_bytes are hard or softlimits ? (sorry that i ask that many questions, didnt found out in the manual)
1276716079 Q * dannf Read error: Operation timed out
1276716106 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org
1276716534 M * fLoo mmh
1276716550 M * fLoo soft-limits doesnt work as expected, one guest can still use 100 % of the cpu
1276716577 M * daniel_hozac that's what a soft limit is.
1276716643 M * fLoo but then i dont get the reason for a soft-limit
1276716649 M * fLoo if it can still be overdriven
1276716698 M * Bertl that's the difference between soft and hard
1276716708 M * daniel_hozac if another guest with a larger amount of shares consumes 100%, that guest will get more of the capacity.
1276716723 M * fLoo ah i see
1276716760 M * fLoo so soft-limits only apply in a worst-case scenario, when more than one guest uses much cpu-power, correct ?
1276716785 M * fLoo otherwise everyone can use the cpu as much as one wants
1276716811 M * daniel_hozac yes
1276716823 M * fLoo ok, good idea behind soft-limit, got that, thanks
1276716851 M * Bertl to be precise, it is more like a scheduling guide
1276716895 M * Bertl i.e. scheduling happens according to the shares
1276716907 M * fLoo yep, i understand
1276716950 M * fLoo and memory-soft limits are the same ? let me try to explain by myself (just say i failed or succeed) :
1276716994 M * fLoo if 1 guests got a memory-softlimit of 512 mb ram, the other 1024 mb ram (the node got 2 gb ram), bot can use as much as they want
1276717031 M * fLoo if the 1024mb guest uses 1500 and the 512mb guest tries to allocate 700mb ram
1276717076 M * fLoo then the 1024mb guest will be forced to something like 1400 and the 512mb guest to something like 600mb ?
1276717623 M * fLoo OUCH!
1276717632 M * fLoo http://paste.linux-vserver.org/15816
1276717651 M * fLoo after setting VIRT_MEM in /etc/vservers/<guest name>/flags
1276717656 M * fLoo and using cgroup memory limits
1276717752 M * fLoo deleting /flags makes it usable again
1276717835 M * Bertl kernel/patch version?
1276717860 M * fLoo hermine:~# vserver-info
1276717861 M * fLoo Versions:
1276717861 M * fLoo Kernel: 2.6.34-vs2.3.0.36.30.4.pre6-coresec
1276717861 M * fLoo VS-API: 0x00020306
1276717861 M * fLoo util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2883; Jun 14 2010, 22:36:10
1276718191 M * fLoo it crashes when using "512M" and "512000000" in memory.limit_in_bytes and memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes
1276718203 M * fLoo doesnt matter which way you go
1276718379 M * Bertl we've already investigated this issue, but without final conclusion
1276718413 M * fLoo so currently there is no way to display virtual memory in guests ?
1276718413 M * Bertl the problem seems to be that this context doesn't have a memory cgroup associated for whatever reason
1276718493 M * fLoo i see
1276718514 M * Bertl if you can reproduce the issue, you could do some debugging for me
1276718523 M * fLoo sure
1276718535 M * fLoo i can reproduce it with every vserver installed
1276718630 M * Bertl okay, first, compile your kernel with DEBUG and DEBUG_INFO enabled
1276718649 M * fLoo okay this might take some time
1276718678 M * fLoo btw .. VIRT_CPU, VIRT_LOAD and VIRT_UPTIME works
1276718699 M * Bertl then, in kernel/vserver/limit.c line 330, you should have a printk()
1276718796 M * Bertl if not, let me know, I'll upload a patch then
1276718797 M * fLoo http://paste.linux-vserver.org/15817 <- correct ?
1276718820 M * fLoo there was no printk() i just added it ;)
1276718830 M * Bertl close :) I'll show you, sec
1276718866 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/15818
1276718887 M * fLoo ok patched
1276718929 M * fLoo may i start compiling now ?
1276718937 M * Bertl yep
1276718945 M * fLoo ok
1276718968 M * Bertl I presume you enabled CONFIG_DEBUG and CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO as well as CONFIG_VSERVERÄ_DEBUG
1276718972 M * fLoo yep
1276718980 M * Bertl excellent
1276718982 M * fLoo :)
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1276719633 M * fLoo Bertl : i forgot smth .. do you need VServer History Tracing too ?
1276719643 M * Bertl nope
1276719645 M * fLoo ok
1276720300 M * fLoo takes about 1.5 hours
1276720314 M * fLoo 2.6.34-vs2.3.0.36.30.4.pre6-coresec-debug with all you need ;)
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1276722454 M * Bertl well, never had a kernel which took longer than 15 minutes to compile
1276722474 M * Bertl but hey, if you _need_ the kitchensink Ã:)
1276724319 M * fLoo well iam using the kernel for 2 different machines
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1276725235 M * fLoo and btw
1276725240 M * fLoo this depends on the sys power
1276725246 M * fLoo just running a celeron 2.4 ghz here ;)
1276725274 M * Bertl it mainly depends on the config
1276725280 M * fLoo sure
1276725290 M * fLoo but the kernel takes 1.5 hours on my celeron
1276725297 M * fLoo and 6 minutes on my core i7 dedicated
1276725301 M * fLoo 8 cores vs 1
1276725310 M * fLoo 6 gb ddr3 vs 1.5 gb ddr1 ram
1276725315 M * Bertl which means, you haven't cleaned up the config properly
1276725321 M * fLoo exactly :)
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