1274144245 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1274144256 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1274153800 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.237.243 1274153933 Q * ex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274154094 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1274155306 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1274161543 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-97-156.iusacell.net 1274161833 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.114.100 1274162875 J * ncopa ~ncopa@180.40.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1274162912 Q * ncopa 1274162944 J * ncopa ~ncopa@180.40.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1274163250 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274163558 J * mtg ~mtg@vollkornmail.dbk-nb.de 1274164397 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1274164615 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1274166673 J * mib_fo5t8r 597a91fa@ircip2.mibbit.com 1274166705 P * mib_fo5t8r 1274167246 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274167437 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1274168343 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1274169847 J * rwat ~rwat@i-195-137-41-70.freedom2surf.net 1274169875 M * rwat am I right in thinking it's not possible to have a swapfile per guest? 1274170109 M * ghislain it seems unlikely as swap is on the kernel level. I dont think mounting swap on guest will do anything 1274170126 M * ghislain bertl could confirm that (or not) when he goes by 1274170892 M * Swen_Zz rwat: you can however *fake* swapo per guest 1274170899 N * Swen_Zz Swen 1274170913 M * Swen rwat: http://linux-vserver.org/Memory_Limits 1274171287 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1274171825 J * tomreyn__ ~Piet__@7GDAACWNQ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1274171837 N * tomreyn__ Piet 1274171888 Q * Piet_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274171948 Q * Romster Quit: Geeks shall inherit properties and methods of object earth. 1274172030 M * rwat what I want to achieve is for some vservers to have preference for memory 1274172054 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1274172077 M * rwat I'm hoping to run zope/plone and it can use a lot of physical RAM, but of course some customers want it cheap, so I want to limit their memory. Obviously this can't really be a hard limit. 1274172102 M * rwat so I want something similar to the effect of them having an actual server with that amount of RAM and having to swap out after that 1274172110 M * rwat maybe I need something like Xen for this 1274172121 M * rwat vserver does look very cool though 1274172133 M * ghislain swap slow down all the servers by greatly reducing the disk io 1274172145 M * ghislain you can limit memory with vserver 1274172208 M * rwat yes i don't really want it to swap when it doesn't want to, but I want to be able to say "swap vserver1 first" 1274172401 J * thierryp_ ~thierry@vis020b.sophia.inria.fr 1274172504 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274172750 J * dna ~dna@122-213-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1274172960 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1274173460 M * vserver_guy @ard - i'll have a read into that, thanks 1274173465 Q * vserver_guy 1274174315 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1274174324 M * Bertl morning folks! 1274174569 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-239-133.pools.arcor-ip.net 1274174769 M * hijacker afternoon 1274175968 Q * yang Read error: No route to host 1274176237 J * yang yang@gnewsense.mtveurope.org 1274176270 N * yang Guest506 1274176681 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1274176975 Q * thierryp_ Remote host closed the connection 1274177190 J * thierryp ~thierry@vis020b.sophia.inria.fr 1274177291 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1274177882 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1274178849 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1274178947 M * arekm crap, setting up ubuntu as guest 1274178954 P * thierryp ciao folks 1274178989 M * arekm http://pastebin.com/K1anN8zs 1274179129 M * Bertl yep, needs some major cleanup :) 1274179272 M * arekm so upstart driven ubuntu is known to be fine as vserver guest? 1274179402 M * Bertl after a lot of cleaning up, yes 1274179861 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com 1274181110 J * disposable disposable@blackhole.sk 1274181206 M * disposable how do i change the ip/netmask of a running vserver? do i just use ifconfig inside it? 1274181394 M * Bertl nope, you need to do a bunch of things if you actually want to do it while the guest is running, and depending on your config, the apps inside will need a restart 1274181440 M * Bertl basically you need to assign the new IP on the host (to some interface), then add the IP to the guest and remove the other IP from it 1274181451 M * Bertl after that, you can take down the old IP on the host 1274181508 M * Bertl but it is a lot easier to stop the guest, change the config entry and start it again 1274181511 M * daniel_hozac arekm: try the debian initpost script. it should do a lot of the heavy lifting. 1274181550 M * arekm daniel_hozac: well, installed debian instead already 8) worked nicely 1274181562 M * daniel_hozac hehe 1274181710 M * disposable Bertl: thank you 1274181764 J * kermie 597a91fa@ircip2.mibbit.com 1274182027 M * Bertl np 1274182089 Q * kermie Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client 1274182366 J * quiggle 597a91fa@ircip2.mibbit.com 1274182401 P * quiggle 1274183124 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1274183195 Q * BenG 1274184434 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274184595 M * Bertl nap attack .. bbl 1274184614 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1274184972 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.29.95 1274185089 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.11.166 1274187685 Q * Romster Quit: Geeks shall inherit properties and methods of object earth. 1274187883 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com 1274190378 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274190884 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.36.230 1274190987 M * ard anyway: 2.6.34 doesn't panic anymore with bnx2 ;-) 1274191159 M * pmjdebruijn oh? were there issues again? 1274191386 M * ard not anymore :-) 1274191414 M * ard a netperf was able to panic the box before the enter was echoed by sshd 1274191469 M * ard now the box is idling doing a netperf full duplex between 2 lxc containers over an external firewall 1274191474 M * ard the firewall can't work any harder 1274191576 M * ard probably due to the way the switch balances the traffic over 2 gig ports... I cannot get higher than 1 gig on a cisco port channel/linux bond from 1 mac to another mac. 1274191942 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1274192387 Q * mtg Quit: Verlassend 1274192959 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274193529 M * pmjdebruijn ard: on what are you running lxc btw? 1274193545 M * pmjdebruijn I was meaning to take a look at lxc for private use 1274193725 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.36.230 1274193976 M * disposable if i want to limit the amount of ram available to each guest to cca 400MB, do i just set the RSS hard limit to 100000 pages or is it more complicated than that? the wiki page is somewhat confusing. 1274194028 M * ard pmjdebruijn : it's not ready as a replacement for vserver 1274194067 M * ard I run it now on a 16xcore i7 with 24G ram. Just 2 netperfs ;-). 1274194104 M * ard disposable : you could try just using the containersupport for that. 1274194125 M * ard the limits are indeed confusing :-( 1274194193 M * disposable ard: where do i find info about the containers you speak of? 1274194252 M * Bertl recent kernels provide memory cgroups, that's what ard is talking about 1274194355 M * disposable and that is __easier__ to setup up than creating /etc/vservers/xxx/rlimits/rss ??? 1274194372 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-239-133.pools.arcor-ip.net 1274194480 M * Bertl disposable: no, but ard favors it :) 1274194509 M * Bertl but in general, on really recent kernels it is the suggested way to go 1274194683 M * disposable Bertl: unfortunately, our kernels are all custom 2.6.26 1274194784 J * mtg ~mtg@port-87-193-189-26.static.qsc.de 1274194806 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1274194842 M * pmjdebruijn ard: I'm not thinking of replacing VServer, like I said it's for private use 1274195077 M * Bertl disposable: so there is no memory cgroup in your (most likely broken) kernels anyway 1274196018 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1274196052 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fee0:9872 1274196054 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1274196067 Q * gnuk Remote host closed the connection 1274196609 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.28.11.166 1274196661 J * ghislain1 ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1274196884 J * jkl_ jkl@c-67-172-141-170.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1274196910 J * Snow-Man_ ~sfrost@tamriel.snowman.net 1274196970 M * ard pmjdebruijn : well, for debian you just install lxc and follow the howto's. There is no really well behaving user environment. echo "b" > /proc/sysrq-trigger from a contained group will reboot the server. 1274196991 Q * ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274196998 M * ard They want to filter out /proc using a fuser setup. 1274197006 Q * jkl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274197014 M * Bertl so basically production ready :) 1274197016 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274197016 Q * DLange Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274197026 Q * Snow-Man Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274197035 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274197043 M * ard So I am probably going the easy way: use vserver, since it is very reliable, and using util-vserver to give me network-namespaces 1274197052 M * ard with some shell scripting around that 1274197126 M * ard but the scripting shifts in priority :-( 1274197165 M * ard Bertl : even /sys comes within the container... 1274197185 M * ard I am not sure if it is the user-space scripting or the guy here that was testing it ;-) 1274197258 M * ard (stuff like forgetting to clean out /dev ... 1274197260 M * ard ) 1274197399 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net 1274197448 A * ard read the discussion of some guy named herbert poetzl and some other guy talking about networknamespaces in lkml 1274197449 M * ard ;-) 1274197464 A * ard loves the combination 1274197679 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1274197759 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274197789 P * kir Leaving. 1274197862 J * nkukard_ ~nkukard@groupware-0-1.virt.iitsp.net 1274197869 Q * barismetin synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1274197869 Q * nkukard synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1274197869 Q * dannf synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1274197948 J * nkukard ~nkukard@groupware-0-1.virt.iitsp.net 1274197948 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1274197965 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1274197967 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274197967 Q * dannf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274197994 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1274198090 M * pmjdebruijn ard: ok, so no security then :) 1274198123 Q * manana Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274198133 Q * mtg Quit: Verlassend 1274198571 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1274198931 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1274198945 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1274201218 Q * rwat Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1274201247 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-101-33.customers.d1-online.com 1274201252 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@201.174.19.86 1274203312 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1274203426 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1274203840 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.36.230 1274204089 Q * barismetin Quit: Leaving... 1274204454 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274204947 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-109-85.customers.d1-online.com 1274206530 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274207139 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.19.137 1274207545 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274208085 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1274209234 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-101-230.customers.d1-online.com 1274211446 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1274211622 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1274212854 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1274212985 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274212998 Q * BenG 1274214168 J * urbee ~urbee@93-103-199-233.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net 1274214171 M * urbee hoi 1274214182 M * urbee i'm trying to create a centos guest with yum on a gentoo machine 1274214188 M * urbee but this is the error i get: http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=hjvnd9 1274214527 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1274214576 M * Bertl well, obviously your yum is not patched 1274214610 M * Bertl and something keeps the /proc mount inside the guest busy 1274214880 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1274215023 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1274215578 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180215018.adsl.alicedsl.de 1274216945 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1274216947 Q * derjohn_mob Read error: No route to host 1274216958 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180215018.adsl.alicedsl.de 1274217478 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1274218363 J * ichavero_ ~ichavero@201.174.19.86 1274218695 Q * ichavero_ Quit: Leaving 1274219230 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1274219574 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274219870 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fee0:9872 1274219923 Q * manana Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274219933 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.144 1274219948 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1274221043 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1274221913 Q * BenG Remote host closed the connection 1274223821 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1274223947 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1274224330 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1274225558 Q * ghislain1 Quit: Leaving. 1274226201 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: you around?