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1273114866 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@c145116.adsl.hansenet.de
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1273115278 N * SauLus_ SauLus
1273118128 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1273118133 M * Bertl morning folks!
1273118370 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@tamriel.snowman.net
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1273121378 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1273122535 J * sn00d ~ard@gw-tweakb16.kwaak.net
1273122552 M * sn00d where is the bertl bot?
1273122605 M * sn00d I've been on this channel for more than 20s. and no goodmorning from the bertl or dhozac bot :-(
1273122624 M * sn00d things have changed....
1273123113 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1273123144 M * Bertl sn00d: good morning! I was getting breakfast :)
1273123301 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c195071.adsl.hansenet.de
1273123783 M * sn00d hmmm
1273123840 M * sn00d I was enterning a tunnel
1273123857 M * sn00d and my phone is hopping public IP :-(
1273124169 M * Bertl sounds like fun?! :)
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1273126946 M * Bertl sn00d: does the story contain any Linux-VServer related question or statement?
1273127187 M * sn00d not yet
1273127337 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
1273127894 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2
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1273132681 J * Loki|muh ~loki@satanix.de
1273132753 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1273132756 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1273133146 J * yarihm ~yarihm@pub-wlan.office.nine.ch
1273133532 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
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1273135205 J * bzed_ ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1273135360 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1273135364 M * Bertl back now ...
1273135443 N * bzed Guest453
1273135443 N * bzed_ bzed
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1273141944 M * Bertl off for now, bbl
1273141947 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1273144657 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1273144828 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
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1273153101 J * swenTjuln ~kvirc@217.72.66.253
1273153114 M * swenTjuln hi all
1273153131 M * swenTjuln I have an upstart(lucid) question
1273153160 M * Bertl I hope it is still Linux-VServer related :)
1273153170 M * swenTjuln me too :D
1273153194 M * swenTjuln services that should be started with upstart within guest won't start
1273153221 M * swenTjuln i.e: # service cron start
1273153226 M * swenTjuln start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
1273153237 M * swenTjuln I saw faq section
1273153237 M * Bertl is upstart running?
1273153264 M * swenTjuln huh
1273153270 M * swenTjuln who runs it?
1273153289 M * swenTjuln i mean which process invokes it at startuo
1273153308 M * Bertl well, if you want to use it, it has to be started, i.e. you need plain init style with upstart as /sbin/init or something like that
1273153379 M * swenTjuln like: upstart-udev-bridge --daemon ?
1273153401 M * Bertl hmm?
1273153552 M * swenTjuln seems like init listens for @/com/ubuntu/upstart socket
1273153591 M * Bertl so you have init (i.e. upstart) running inside the guest?
1273153599 M * swenTjuln yes
1273153603 M * swenTjuln with PID 1
1273153632 M * Bertl sure about that?
1273153712 M * swenTjuln yup
1273153781 M * swenTjuln funny thing! If I invoke /sbin/init 3, I get same error: "init: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused"
1273153787 M * Bertl inside the guest, try:
1273153790 M * Bertl cat /proc/1/vinfo
1273153799 M * Bertl (and upload the output to a pastebin)
1273153821 M * swenTjuln I get: XID:    0
1273153829 M * swenTjuln oh...sry...to late
1273153833 M * Bertl so you lied to me :)
1273153845 M * swenTjuln um?
1273153849 M * Bertl you don't have upstart running inside the guest :)
1273153867 M * Bertl what you see inside the guest is a blend through version from the host
1273153868 M * swenTjuln I never said that
1273153878 M * Bertl 15:46 < Bertl> so you have init (i.e. upstart) running inside the guest?
1273153880 M * swenTjuln a said i have running init inside guest
1273153882 M * Bertl 15:46 < swenTjuln> yes
1273153901 M * Bertl but you have no init inside the guest
1273153909 M * swenTjuln uh....misunderstanding
1273153918 M * Bertl you are running the guest in sysv mode, no init there
1273153925 M * Bertl thus no upstart to connect to
1273153960 M * swenTjuln echo plain > style ?
1273153982 M * Bertl yep, in the guest config
1273154060 J * mnemoc ~amery@shell.opensde.net
1273154658 M * swenTjuln OK...i've made some progress :D
1273154658 Q * mtg Quit: Verlassend
1273154681 M * swenTjuln I can't believe I didn't notice "style" problem
1273154693 M * swenTjuln It happens quite often to me
1273154737 M * swenTjuln because vserver build -m clone doesn't copy it.
1273155119 Q * FloodServ Service unloaded
1273155250 M * swenTjuln Bertl: thank you! I've solved my issue with your help :)
1273155282 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1273155425 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving.
1273155510 M * swenTjuln BTW: anyone looked into LXC (Linux containers) ?
1273155530 M * swenTjuln seems like similar technology
1273155565 M * ghislain you ask cocacola  if they look at pepsi ? ;p
1273155603 M * Bertl and yes, they do :)
1273155604 M * swenTjuln oh....i do not want to start  flame or sth....just asking
1273155622 M * ghislain lol, was just kidding , no flame war here
1273155628 M * Bertl no problem, we are using parts from LXC
1273155648 M * ghislain bertl: now they know coca use some pepsi in them ;p
1273155652 M * Bertl and no problem here if you think LXC works for you :)
1273155659 M * swenTjuln i've tried it 
1273155664 M * Bertl (i.e. without Linux-VServer around it :)
1273155667 M * swenTjuln wasn't really impressed
1273155682 M * swenTjuln feels immature
1273155706 M * ghislain yep vserver use part of it when it seems to make sense and use vserver part for the rest
1273155710 M * swenTjuln but it has an important advantage over vserver - it's included in vanilla kernel
1273155730 M * swenTjuln like xen vs. KVM
1273156153 M * dihedral xen or xenserver? :P
1273156202 M * swenTjuln :D
1273156224 M * swenTjuln they are not THAT different ;)
1273156518 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1273156942 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-094-222-100-222.pools.arcor-ip.net
1273156980 M * dihedral swenTjuln: iirc they do have some quite major differences ;-)
1273156999 M * dihedral like comparing esx and vmware workstation
1273157006 M * swenTjuln iirc kernel is more or less the same
1273157018 M * dihedral leven 1 and level 2 hypervisor
1273157026 M * dihedral *level
1273157843 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1273158189 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.158.170
1273158202 Q * balbir 
1273158215 J * bsarora ~balbir@122.172.158.170
1273158339 M * yang Bertl: About the Linux-Vserver stable branch kernel (looking at table on http://linux-vserver.org/Welcome_to_Linux-VServer.org) has it stopped with 2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7 ? Which one do you recommend to take for an update now 2.6.33.3-vs2.3.0.36.30.4 ?
1273158574 M * BenG 2.6.33.2 works great for me yang, not compiled 2.6.33.3 yet
1273158702 M * yang but 2.6.33.2 goes again which vs ?
1273158733 M * yang can I compile it with vs2.3.0.36.30.4
1273158784 Q * dannf Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1273159125 M * Bertl recent 2.6.33 should be fine
1273159157 M * yang ok
1273159691 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.158.170
1273160311 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
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1273161050 M * ghislain we run 2.6.33.2-vs2.3.0.36.30.4 with success here
1273161174 M * BenG are you using the cgroup memory control stuff ghislain ?
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1273169936 M * urbee date: cannot set date: Operation not permitted
1273169942 M * urbee cant set date from inside guest?
1273169956 M * urbee host date is correct
1273169958 M * urbee guest is not
1273169978 M * daniel_hozac then you probably didn't set your timezone.
1273170045 M * Bertl or if you really really want, you can enable guest time virtualization
1273170059 M * Bertl (which will allow you to set the guest to the wrong time :)
1273170066 M * urbee set the timezone, where?
1273170071 M * urbee on host?
1273170085 M * daniel_hozac on the guest of course, where the time is "incorrect".
1273170088 M * Bertl inside the guest probably if the guest timezone ist wrong
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1273173296 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c195071.adsl.hansenet.de
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1273174696 J * thalunil ~thalunil@walledcity.de
1273175520 M * transacid htop can be built with vserver support, which is great, but it doesn't really work for me
1273175563 M * Bertl (which is not so great I presume :)
1273175564 M * transacid running `chcontext --xid 1 -- htop` shows VXID 0 for everything
1273175840 M * Bertl do you have a link to the source code, preferably web browseable?
1273175910 M * transacid http://htop.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/htop?view=rev&revision=135
1273175922 M * transacid with this revision it was introduced
1273175945 M * transacid Hollow_: *hilight*
1273176079 M * Bertl what does:
1273176101 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net
1273176107 M * Bertl chcontext --xid 1 -- grep VxID /proc/self/status
1273176110 M * Bertl give?
1273176221 M * transacid nothing
1273176310 M * transacid maybe something in util-vserver changed
1273176319 M * Bertl not util-vserver related
1273176330 M * Bertl what is your kernel/patch version?
1273176332 M * transacid ok
1273176375 M * transacid ah
1273176414 M * transacid on 2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7 it doesn't work but on 2.6.33.1-vs2.3.0.36.30.3
1273176473 M * Bertl well, I presume your 2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7 is just misconfigured
1273176482 M * Bertl i.e. has legacy enabled all over :)
1273176504 M * Bertl but, the code you linked has #if defined HAVE_ANCIENT_VSERVER
1273176524 M * Bertl enabling that might work, at least if the following gives a result:
1273176538 M * Bertl chcontext --xid 1 -- grep s_context /proc/self/status
1273176538 M * transacid hmm well i built the kernel myself the htop is the debian package
1273176564 M * transacid i'm about to update the old box anyway, was just wondering
1273176579 M * transacid such a nice uptime :p
1273176587 M * transacid thanks for your help Bertl 
1273176598 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1273176775 M * transacid just fyi, it still had legacy api enabled (i dunno why)
1273176852 M * Bertl 2.4 nostalgia maybe?
1273176896 M * transacid well it'S so long ago i built this kernel. i guess i still was unexperiencd and included it "just to be sure to be compatible with everything"
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1273176962 M * transacid always doing "make oldconfig" doesn't help here :D
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1273177273 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d047066.adsl.hansenet.de
1273177493 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.168.34
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1273179543 J * FireEgl Proteus@FireEgl.CJB.Net
1273179630 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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