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1271998576 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1271998580 M * Bertl morning folks!
1272001272 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-81-180.iusacell.net
1272002425 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.165.108
1272003248 M * Waldgeist morning!
1272003287 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-094-222-103-239.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1272004703 M * hijacker morning
1272004729 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1272005380 J * balbir ~balbir@122.248.163.1
1272006147 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2
1272007610 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-150-83.dclient.hispeed.ch
1272008183 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
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1272009937 J * maharaja raoul@93-189-26-52.rev.ipax.at
1272009941 M * maharaja hi
1272010054 M * maharaja i have an issue using /etc/vservers/.defaults/interfaces/vlandev
1272010103 M * maharaja my setup: the host is on an internal ip address
1272010133 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1272010134 M * maharaja i have 3 vservers which share a common ip vlan with public ips
1272010147 M * maharaja i'm using eth0.168 for this
1272010161 M * maharaja when i start my vservers, the first vserver correctly creates the vlandev
1272010195 M * maharaja the problem is: when all vservers are up and i restart 1, the vlan dev eth0.168 gets torn down too 
1272010203 M * maharaja leaving the other two vservers without a network connection
1272010240 M * maharaja am i missing something or is this a bug?
1272010250 M * maharaja i get the feeling that only the last vserver should actually destroy the vlandev
1272010648 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2
1272010673 M * PowerKe maharaja: I'm not speaking from experience, but from what I've read here in the channel I think you need to enable 'Promote secondaries' in the kernel
1272010825 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.28.161.196
1272010828 M * maharaja thanks, i'll try
1272010836 J * ManaPirat ~cst@stamper.dp-media.de
1272010842 M * ManaPirat morning :)
1272010879 M * PowerKe maharaja: I'd try: sysctl net.ipv4.conf.all.promote_secondaries=1
1272010960 M * maharaja not working :(
1272011011 M * maharaja net.ipv4.conf.all.promote_secondaries = 1
1272011011 M * maharaja net.ipv4.conf.default.promote_secondaries = 1
1272011024 M * maharaja net.ipv4.conf.eth0/168.promote_secondaries = 1
1272011054 M * maharaja kernel 2.6.32-3-vserver-amd64, VS-API: 0x00020305,  util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2864; Nov 29 2009, 00:39:14
1272011059 M * maharaja debian squeeze
1272011145 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1272011161 M * maharaja PowerKe: from what i currently read, it seems that util-vserver actually destroys the vlandev
1272011180 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1272011181 M * maharaja vconfig rem eth0.168
1272011203 M * maharaja and nothing will prevent it from doing so
1272011253 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1272011357 M * maharaja vserver stop calls
1272011359 M * maharaja disableInterfaces
1272011364 M * maharaja from vserver.functions
1272011372 M * maharaja which will simply to
1272011373 M * maharaja             VCONFIG)            $_VCONFIG  rem "$2.$3" >/dev/null;;
1272011382 M * maharaja no check is done if the interface is still in use by other vservers
1272011563 P * kir Leaving.
1272011821 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2
1272012012 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1272012039 M * maharaja who is currently developing util-vserver?
1272012044 M * maharaja daniel_hozac ?
1272012053 M * Bertl yep
1272012068 M * maharaja ty
1272012078 M * maharaja hello Bertl btw - long time no see :)
1272012092 M * Bertl yeah :)
1272012108 M * maharaja why did you choose oftc as an ircnet? :-/
1272012142 M * maharaja i'm on multiple channles on 6 other networks - but #vserver would be the only one on oftc so i always forget to join
1272012159 M * Bertl well, we had to decide between oftc and freenode, and oftc was/is better maintained and less noisy
1272012179 M * hparker Very much so
1272012212 M * Bertl maharaja: and autojoin will help there :)
1272012334 M * maharaja reading about irssi multinet would be a start ;)
1272012346 M * maharaja i now have 7 irssi running
1272012476 M * theocrite oO
1272012694 M * Bertl maharaja: it boils down to /connect +server :)
1272012911 J * mtg ~mtg@port-87-193-189-26.static.qsc.de
1272013216 M * PowerKe Combine it with bitlbee and you can have all your irc channels and instant messenger conversations in the same irssi instance
1272013349 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@sadsl-246059.rol.raiffeisen.net
1272013918 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr
1272013962 Q * barismetin 
1272013974 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr
1272014471 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr
1272015216 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1272015764 M * maharaja PowerKe: nah, i'm actually pretty happy with miranda-im
1272015810 M * maharaja but thanks :)
1272015822 M * maharaja any idea when daniel will be around?
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1272024545 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net
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1272027219 J * petzsch ~markus@94.222.103.239
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1272031272 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149
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1272032029 J * tolkor ~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu
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1272033374 M * maharaja daniel_hozac: ?
1272033433 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.6.245
1272033460 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl
1272033464 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1272033495 M * daniel_hozac maharaja: yes?
1272033653 M * maharaja i have an issue with vlandevs
1272033667 M * maharaja do you have an irc backlog?
1272033672 M * maharaja otherwise, i'll c/p it
1272033674 M * daniel_hozac sure
1272033683 M * maharaja 10:08am today
1272033688 M * maharaja starting with:
1272033690 M * maharaja i have 3 vservers which share a common ip vlan with public ips
1272033738 M * maharaja imho, util-vserver (vserver stop) should remove all ips first and only tear down the vlandev if there is no ip adress left
1272033746 M * daniel_hozac well
1272033751 M * daniel_hozac you're telling util-vserver to remove the VLAN
1272033761 M * daniel_hozac that is what vlandev means.
1272033810 M * maharaja well
1272033821 M * maharaja so how do i achive this behavior then:
1272033829 M * daniel_hozac create the VLAN on the host.
1272033836 M * maharaja :-/
1272033838 M * daniel_hozac and don't use vlandev
1272033854 M * maharaja but wouldn't this be a reasonable behavior?
1272033869 M * maharaja only first vserver creates the vlandev, only last one destroys
1272033870 M * maharaja ?
1272033885 A * MooingLemur doesn't think that's the job of vserver utils
1272033896 M * daniel_hozac patches accepted, if you can do that cleanly.
1272033909 M * maharaja uff :)
1272033913 M * daniel_hozac i.e. it doesn't break the 80/20 rule.
1272033918 M * maharaja means?
1272033939 M * daniel_hozac i don't want 80% of the code to deal with special cases that only occur in less than 20% of the use cases.
1272033950 M * daniel_hozac and i'd wager this is like 0.001% :)
1272033989 M * maharaja so what does vlandev exist for then ? ;)
1272034000 M * daniel_hozac when you have one VLAN per guest.
1272034286 M * MooingLemur daniel_hozac: I just remembered what I wanted to ask you.  Is there a way to pass preferred_lft 0 to IPv6 addresses that util-vserver brings up for guests?  Right now I'm just bringing them up on the host to avoid the issue.
1272034342 M * MooingLemur Linux's behavior of using the last-configured address to break ties when choosing which IPv6 address on an interface to send outbound traffic on was kicking my butt.
1272034352 M * daniel_hozac not at the moment.
1272036270 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA]
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1272039658 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
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1272040354 M * maharaja ok, i think i fixed it for debian with:
1272040367 M * maharaja auto eth0.168
1272040367 M * maharaja iface eth0.168 inet manual
1272040371 M * maharaja and nothing more
1272040373 M * maharaja on the host
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1272042572 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF472BA.dip.t-dialin.net
1272043481 J * scientes ~scientes@174-24-194-148.tukw.qwest.net
1272045621 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg
1272045713 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1272047048 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1272047051 M * Bertl back now ...
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1272047887 J * barismetin ~barismeti@jua06-1-82-242-159-114.fbx.proxad.net
1272048015 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.7.134
1272048127 M * Bertl maharaja: simple but effective solution for this problem :)
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