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1271637914 J * mecool mecool@94.128.90.78
1271638063 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1271638068 M * Bertl back now ...
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1271642502 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1271643779 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no
1271646070 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@c192237.adsl.hansenet.de
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1271654481 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.34.243
1271654598 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1271654610 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1271675065 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1271675073 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1271678021 M * hijacker afternoon Bertl 
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1271680756 M * pmjdebruijn hmmm
1271680779 M * pmjdebruijn is there a way to change rlimit/rss.hard on-the-fly, without reloading the vserver?
1271680813 M * pmjdebruijn oh vlimit
1271680819 M * Bertl correct :)
1271680837 M * pmjdebruijn anyway to automatically apply rlimit/rss.hard?
1271680848 M * pmjdebruijn besides vlimit `cat blah/rlimits/rss.hard`
1271680850 M * pmjdebruijn :)
1271680881 M * Bertl not that I know ... but it is a long-term feature request
1271680888 M * pmjdebruijn :)
1271680892 M * pmjdebruijn ok
1271680991 M * pmjdebruijn oh crap, vlimit doesn't work on vserver names :(
1271681004 M * Bertl util-vserver version?
1271681421 M * pmjdebruijn 0.30.216~r2842
1271681423 M * pmjdebruijn it's not a big problem
1271681525 M * Bertl works fine here with guest names after --xid (but I have a more recent version)
1271681592 M * pmjdebruijn oh
1271681602 M * pmjdebruijn well, it works with some creative scripting
1271681617 M * pmjdebruijn I didn't test, the help suggestion you need to use the XID itself
1271684831 M * daniel_hozac any part of the utils which accepts an xid/nid also accept a name.
1271684977 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
1271685160 M * pmjdebruijn ok
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1271709999 M * transacid so debian-vservertools are not supported. i should rather use vserver build? didn't know that. maybe i just was lucky ;)
1271710022 M * Guy- transacid: yes, use vserver build with the debootstrap build method
1271710026 M * transacid vserver-debiantools that is
1271710045 M * Guy- transacid: but if you're mass-creating vservers, it may make sense to write a wrapper script even around that
1271710065 M * transacid na, just one here and then
1271710088 Q * Romster Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1271710107 M * transacid i used to use the build method for long until someone toled me to use debian foo. however will you the build method from now on again
1271710122 M * transacid was just setting up a new server after a longer time
1271710142 M * transacid my current setup is running since 4 years without a hassle ;)
1271710187 M * Bertl there are many problems with the vserver-debiantools, the simplest and best argument against them IMHO is that Linux-VServer is designed to be distro agnostic, so why make a distro specific wrapper?
1271710187 M * Guy- so it goes :)
1271710219 M * transacid Bertl: i agree
1271710225 M * Guy- Bertl: well, I wrote one for my own use as well :)
1271710234 M * transacid there are not much vserver left to build though
1271710238 M * Guy- it's not just distro specific, it's much more than that :)
1271710260 M * Bertl that is perfectly fine for an enduser
1271710309 M * Bertl the problem is when folks come here and complain that either the newvserver is not working correctly, or that it is 'missing' on e.g. fedora or gentoo
1271710354 M * Bertl note that I would be fairly indifferent if it was working properly where available, but it has been a real PITA in the past
1271710364 M * Guy- yes, I can see how that's a problem
1271710449 M * transacid i just became aware of that cause of the post on the ml
1271710457 M * transacid cause i always worked for me
1271710472 M * transacid but now that i know i will keep using the build method
1271711662 M * Marillion transacid: i don't see problems with the debootstrap method, an lenny and squeeze, too
1271711774 M * Bertl consider it similar to 'alias dir=ls' no linux(-vserver) pro would use that :)
1271712034 M * transacid haha yes
1271712218 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@c192134.adsl.hansenet.de
1271712594 A * _Shiva_ thinks of 'alias rm=rm -i' .. grr..
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1271712818 M * transacid _Shiva_: yeah that's really silly, i mean, how really reviews what one's gonna delete. you just press 'y' cause you know what you're doing, right?
1271712884 M * _Shiva_ transacid: actually, that proppts you for _every_ file in $glob ..
1271712905 M * transacid you see, i never used it
1271712924 M * Marillion transacid: Where are your evidence?
1271712931 M * _Shiva_ promMpts, even :-)
1271712960 M * transacid Marillion: hu?
1271713010 M * Marillion transacid: you say, vserver on Debian are broken, where?
1271713028 M * transacid Marillion: i never said that. just read it on the mailinglist
1271713041 M * Marillion ah
1271713058 M * transacid Marillion: it was about using vserver-debiantools
1271713066 M * Marillion say that the first, not afterwards
1271713088 M * transacid i dun get you
1271713177 M * _Shiva_ transacid: that used to be a default alias in SchmuSE-Linux... dah!
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1271714151 M * Guy- also in Red Hat, I think
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1271714277 Q * Marillion synthon.oftc.net charm.oftc.net
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1271714354 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net
1271714354 J * Marillion ~dirk@hetzner4.127011.net
1271714354 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org
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1271717427 M * urbee i'm trying to rsync a guest from one machine to another
1271717441 M * urbee rsync is in D state on the first machine for like 20 minutes
1271717451 M * urbee and i've turned off all other stuff!
1271717479 M * urbee is it like, stalled, or what? should i reboot?
1271717544 M * urbee iostat shows huge %iowait
1271717552 M * urbee but what tha hell is it waiting for, this is the only job to do
1271717562 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com
1271717573 M * urbee avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
1271717573 M * urbee            0.25    0.00    0.25   24.56    0.00   74.94
1271717678 M * Bertl what about memory? check /proc/meminfo
1271717702 M * Bertl I'd suspec the machine is trashing, i.e. vmstat will show huge page in/outs
1271717821 M * urbee i've rebooted in the mean time
1271717883 M * urbee but it still seems to be in D all the time
1271717937 M * Bertl rsync is I/O bound, at least at the beginning when building the filelist
1271717960 M * Bertl depending on the number of files, it will also consume a huge amount of memory
1271717961 M * urbee but shouldnt it be "running"? 
1271717972 M * urbee memory is not a problem
1271717986 M * urbee there are alooot of files but anyway
1271717998 M * urbee there's nothing running on the machine right now except of rsync
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1271718218 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1271718767 M * sur5r urbee: maybe you have lots of hardlinks and use rsync with -H?
1271721264 M * urbee its been generating the list for 56 minutes now :)
1271721443 M * Bertl what is your rsync line?
1271721506 M * urbee rsync --numeric-ids -aPxvc 
1271721521 M * Bertl ah, that explains it, -c means checksum
1271721538 M * Bertl i.e. it is currently checksumming all your files
1271721547 M * urbee but thats the safest way right?
1271721574 M * Bertl well, depends on what you plan to do .. if you expect the transport to be faulty, sure
1271721598 M * urbee i dont expect it, but i rather not bet on it :)