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1270692931 J * selim ~chatzilla@e181068212.adsl.alicedsl.de
1270692955 M * selim hi, some strange problem with my vserver instance
1270693000 M * selim it seems to start without problem but when I do a vserver <vservername> enter it tells me there is no startet vserver instance even a vserver-stat tells me, no server running
1270693016 M * selim how can I debug this or at least find some hint why this is happening
1270693577 M * Bertl well, by default, a guest exits when the last process inside the context dies
1270693616 M * Bertl so, what most likely happens is that no service keeps running after guest startup, and thus the context goes away
1270694017 M * selim Bertl: any way to find out why the processes are dying
1270694297 M * Bertl what services do you have enabled inside the guest?
1270694387 M * selim Bertl: http://pastebin.com/pz600Hnp thats what I get starting the vserver
1270694402 M * selim Bertl: after that the vserver dies
1270694477 M * Bertl I don't see any services started, so that is kind of expected
1270694492 M * Bertl start something which keeps running, like syslog or cron or sshd
1270694527 M * selim Bertl: how would I do that, chroot into the vserver system tree?
1270694556 M * Bertl how do you do it on a real system?
1270694818 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:403b:b97d:df43
1270695497 M * selim Bertl: ok, thank you that's it, it's working now
1270695506 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1270695525 M * selim Bertl: I may have to beautify the base system a little but that should be easy from now on
1270695558 M * selim Bertl: is sysfs or /proc needed, why do I get the /proc is already mounted message at the startup?
1270695577 M * Bertl because it is already mounted :)
1270695597 M * selim within the vserver instance?
1270695602 M * Bertl when util-vserver starts the guest, all mounts (and other hardware related setups) have already happened
1270695625 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@c135206.adsl.hansenet.de
1270695634 M * selim I see, thank you again
1270695648 M * Bertl so, no need to read the rtc, initialize random or whatever normal hardware startup does
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1270696036 N * SauLus_ SauLus
1270696104 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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1270706068 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
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1270720221 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1270720227 M * Bertl morning folks!
1270720248 M * ghislain1 morning
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1270721502 M * hijacker afternoon
1270722058 M * BenG morning
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1270726738 M * Waldgeist hi *
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1270736439 M * raceme hello; I was wondering if i can find somewhere explanations about locked memory and anonymous memory (reported by the vserver plugin of collectd)
1270736487 M * Bertl locked memory is paged pinned down in memory (i.e they cannot be swapped out)
1270736510 M * Bertl anonymous pages are pages unique to a process (i.e. not shared)
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1270738151 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
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1270740575 M * raceme Bertl: so anon and locked page are in the RSS total ? but can page be anon and locked in the same time ?
1270740580 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1270740752 M * Bertl raceme: yes, any page, including anon pages, can be locked
1270740858 M * djMedrzec um, hi, I don't get what's going on here: http://pastebin.com/NAXsYAke
1270740859 M * Bertl the fact that a page is anonymous, just means that it doesn't corespond to afile
1270740867 M * djMedrzec how is this going past the readonly bind?
1270740896 M * Bertl bind,ro will not work on recent kernels
1270740920 M * Bertl mainline decided that you'll need to do a bind mount and then a remount,ro
1270740929 M * djMedrzec Bertl: but on the host it is working ok
1270740938 M * djMedrzec Bertl: (as the last line shows)
1270740963 M * djMedrzec Bertl: the vserver just doesn't care and I wonder how can it do that
1270740976 M * Bertl maybe the mount command on the host, similar to recent util-vserver do the double mount
1270740981 M * djMedrzec Bertl: it's just like I went flying through the window right now. gravity? who cares
1270741002 M * Bertl also note that you are affecting the host namespace and not the guest namespace
1270741007 M * raceme Bertl: ok thanks for the explanations... I am wondering how to graph that... rss is a subpart of vm; but locked is a subpart of rss but anon can be anywhere...
1270741014 M * Bertl djMedrzec: (if your paste is complete)
1270741025 M * djMedrzec Bertl: but guest got started AFTER the host namespace alteration
1270741036 M * djMedrzec Bertl: so it should work with this namespace already altered...
1270741081 M * Bertl depends, could as well be that the path was unmounted from the guest space because it isn't needed/referenced/marked
1270741092 M * Bertl check with /proc/mounts inside the guest
1270741129 M * djMedrzec it just says /dev/root / ext3 rw,relatime,errors=continue,data=writeback 0 0
1270741141 M * djMedrzec about the rootfs
1270741157 M * Bertl see, so your bind mount is not there
1270741171 M * djMedrzec um
1270741173 M * djMedrzec should it be?
1270741185 M * djMedrzec  /dev/md4 /home/vms/vservers/devel ext3 ro,relatime,errors=continue,data=writeback 0 0
1270741189 M * djMedrzec that's on the host
1270741191 M * Bertl that again depends on your config, kernel and util-vserver :)
1270741239 M * djMedrzec linux-2.6.31-17, util-vserver 0.30.216~r2842-2ubuntu2, config is mostly default (/tmp removed from fstab)
1270741271 M * djMedrzec and initstyle is plain
1270741297 M * Bertl well, I don't know the kernel and util-vserver version, but I'd say yes, it is okay that the mount is cleaned up
1270741313 M * djMedrzec can I prevent that? 
1270741318 M * Bertl sure
1270741360 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html search for namespace cleanup
1270741382 M * Bertl this is one way, the probably better one is to put the ro bind mount into the guest's config fstab
1270741397 M * djMedrzec it doesn't seem to work...
1270741413 M * Bertl what?
1270741418 M * djMedrzec oh... or it does
1270741426 M * djMedrzec it was my mistake previously
1270741434 M * djMedrzec Bertl: thanks for your clarifications :)
1270741440 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1270741444 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B59E3.dip.t-dialin.net
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1270742397 M * cehteh https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/557177  .. read the comments for entertainment :)
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1270744000 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1270759147 J * selim ~chatzilla@e181068212.adsl.alicedsl.de
1270759168 P * selim 
1270759205 J * selim ~chatzilla@e181068212.adsl.alicedsl.de
1270759236 M * selim hi can someone tell me why I get this error: Error opening file for reading; filename='/proc/kmsg', error='Operation not permitted (1)' starting syslog-ng?
1270759242 M * selim proc is mounted (rw)
1270759274 M * selim another error would be: "Error initializing source driver; source='src', id='src#2'" and "Error initializing message pipeline;"
1270759317 M * Bertl because by default it is not permitted to read kmsg inside a guest
1270759337 M * Bertl aside from that, there is no information a guest would be interested in (from kmsg)
1270759339 M * selim Bertl: how can solve that problem
1270759361 M * selim Bertl: just delete the kmsg lines in syslog-ng.conf?
1270759370 M * Bertl that is the best option
1270759390 M * Bertl if you don't want to do that for whatever reason, there is a kmsg virtualization option too
1270759402 M * selim Bertl: k, thanks
1270759409 M * Bertl virt_syslog, which will allow to read nothing from kmsg :)
1270759434 M * selim Bertl: any hint where I can find such information
1270759457 M * selim another question: how can I assign the number of cpu's and ram used by a vserver instance?
1270759463 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Documentation
1270759465 M * selim is that possible at all?
1270759486 M * Bertl yes, you can do that with various mechanisms
1270759490 M * Bertl cpusets, cgroups, etc
1270759742 J * nkukard_ ~nkukard@196-210-210-170.dynamic.isadsl.co.za
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1270760885 M * selim Bertl: how can I avoid that error?  news-01 postfix[13142]: fatal: parameter inet_interfaces: no local interface found for 192.168.1.50
1270760902 M * selim do I have to set the bind socket ip to the root system?
1270760911 M * selim or the other way around?
1270760968 M * Bertl hmm?
1270760989 M * Bertl probably all you need for postfix is to disable the single ip special casing
1270761003 M * selim ? meaning?
1270761003 M * Bertl try to set ~single_ip in nflags
1270761105 J * ntrs ~ntrs@62-50-199-254.client.stsn.net
1270761145 M * selim sorry I really don't understand what you are talking about, call me stupid but, I even don't know if you are talkin of vserver or postfix
1270761211 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1270761220 M * Bertl and check out the 'Flower Page'
1270761470 M * selim Bertl: is the ~ nessessary for the single_ip nflag?
1270761481 M * selim and do I have to restart the guest?
1270761488 M * Bertl the ~ means that it _disables_ the flag
1270761514 M * Bertl you probably selected the AUTO_SINGLE_IP option at kernel build time
1270761527 M * Bertl this is now required to disable it for a specific guest
1270761553 M * selim wouldn't HIDE_NETIF  do the same?
1270761566 M * Bertl nope, that should be on already
1270761577 M * Bertl read the docu for the various flags and meanings
1270761581 M * selim how do I see the active flags?
1270761711 M * Bertl either via proc (binary) or simpler via vattribute --get --xid <xid>
1270761720 M * Bertl similar with nattribute and the <nid>
1270761820 M * selim yes I've seen it now
1270761830 M * selim btw. single_ip is not enabled
1270761834 M * selim right now
1270761858 M * Bertl then your guest should have lo and the assigned ip
1270761873 M * selim yes it does
1270761874 M * Bertl which usually is enough to make postfix happy, unless you misconfigured somethng
1270761969 M * selim hmm still getting inet_interfaces: no local interface found for xxx
1270761993 M * selim and the postfix config is a working one from a running system
1270762085 M * Bertl okay, please upload the output of 'ip a ls' (on the guest) and the error message you get to a pastebin
1270762940 M * selim Bertl: thank you for the offer, but I've found the problem, there was a static socket ip bound in main.cf of postfix, I've changed the ip and it is working now
1270763005 M * Bertl but it worked on a real system, just with different IPs I guess :)
1270763017 M * selim exactly
1270763046 M * selim so I have to configure the system to limit it to one cpu and 512kb mem now, lets see if I find that configuration in the documentation
1270763087 M * Bertl one cpu sounds like you want to go for cpusets
1270763105 M * Bertl and with a recent kernel you want to use cgroups resource controller for the memory limit
1270763134 M * Bertl both should give good results when you use the wiki's search function or google :)
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1270763465 M * selim hmm, lets see, doesn't seem that easy
1270763468 M * selim anyway I try
1270763483 M * selim is there some way to add or change the nic configuration for the guest?
1270763515 M * selim I've configured the guest to be bound to eth0 by mistake, it should be eth1 and I need a second IP for the same interface within the guest
1270763672 M * Bertl the 'assignment' to interfaces is nothing the guest cares about
1270763684 M * selim I've already found somethin
1270763709 M * Bertl the 'dev' part you put in interfaces/X/ is just to tell util-vserver where to assign the IP on guest startup, and where to remove it on guest shutdown
1270763711 M * selim can I add another nic to the guest just with creating a /1 within the interfaces directory?
1270763729 M * Bertl another IP, yes
1270763808 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c152026.adsl.hansenet.de
1270763860 M * selim hmm, no not working I have now interfaces/0 and interfaces/1 both are assigned to eth1 in dev and have seperate ip's in ip and prefix but I only get eth1 within the guest after I restart
1270763871 M * selim right now I get eth1 and lo when I do a ifconfig
1270763885 M * selim but it should be eth0 / eth1 and  lo
1270764260 M * Bertl if you have assigned both IPs to eth1, why should eth0 show up in the guest?
1270764406 M * selim hmm ok, but why do I get only one assigned ip?
1270764424 M * selim only 192.168.20.11 is showing but not the first 192.168.1.50
1270764427 M * Bertl I doubt that
1270764452 M * Bertl did you check with 'ip a ls'?
1270764466 M * selim yes, sorry I've seen it right now
1270764474 M * selim ip a shows both ip's but ifconfig does not
1270764493 M * Bertl that is, why ifconfig was obsoleted 5 years ago :)
1270764524 M * Bertl but you can create an alias ('name' entry) then ifconfig will see it too
1270764533 M * selim not completly bsd uses ifconfig thats the reason I still use ifconfig
1270765113 M * fzylogic ip has its own bugs too  :)
1270765176 M * daniel_hozac ip uses the Linux API
1270765184 M * daniel_hozac ifconfig uses the seriously limited BSD API
1270765202 M * daniel_hozac and as such, ifconfig cannot expose half the features that Linux supports.
1270765236 M * fzylogic ip has a bizarre bug where it doesn't always display all configured IPv6 IPs on a host
1270765253 M * Bertl but ifconfig6 *G* does?
1270765257 M * fzylogic yes
1270765273 M * Bertl you must be using debian stable :)
1270765280 M * fzylogic nope, lenny
1270765286 M * daniel_hozac that's stable.
1270765298 M * daniel_hozac or is that oldstable by now?
1270765306 M * fzylogic right, forgot since we're still using sarge in a lot of places
1270765358 M * fzylogic but I did verify the current newest upstream displays the same behavior (as of last year when I last tested ipv6)
1270765435 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1270765482 M * Marillion lenny is stable, now
1270765492 M * Bertl amen.
1270765500 M * Marillion :)
1270765523 M * Bertl sorry I couldn't resist :)
1270765545 M * Marillion i see, but np ;)
1270765623 M * Bertl maybe I should check our old 2.5.x patches ... who knows, they might have become 'stable' by now :)
1270765667 M * Bertl anyway, back to the topic, that's what aliases for, if you can't live without ifconfig
1270765725 M * Marillion Bertl: btw., i use at the moment testing, it works this time (2.6.32.9+grsec)
1270765765 M * Marillion good work for your team and harry ;)
1270765783 M * Bertl great! thanks for the feedback!
1270765797 M * Marillion :)
1270765964 M * selim bertl: I've found the rlimit settings but is it possible to show the limit in this case 512MB within the guest, I still get the full 4GB
1270765992 M * selim as available memory
1270766016 M * Marillion selim: you will set virt_mem flag
1270766134 M * Bertl and with recent kernels, you need to have cgroups memory controler dosabled in the kernel, otherwise you want to go for the cgroups (as I suggested)
1270766246 M * Marillion i must learn cgroups, how to configure it :)
1270766284 M * Marillion selim: recent kernel == upper 2.6.29 *afaik*
1270766304 M * Wonka 2.6.33 is out, 2.6.34 is not too far away... ;)
1270766326 M * Marillion Wonka: you are out *scnr*
1270766339 M * Wonka "out" as in "released"
1270766343 M * Wonka not "outdated"
1270766354 M * Marillion Wonka: you of room :P
1270766362 M * Marillion out *even*
1270766366 M * Wonka pff
1270766391 M * Marillion Wonka: 2.6.32 became LTS support
1270766398 M * Marillion is better
1270766414 M * Wonka cool
1270766453 Q * ViRUS Quit: If there is Artificial Intelligence, then there's bound to be some artificial stupidity. (Thomas Edison)
1270766461 M * Wonka might update the vserver hosts here some time to some 2.6.32 then
1270766559 M * selim Marillion: great that's it, thanks
1270766592 M * Marillion np
1270766617 M * selim is this value I've set with vattribute now, set forever or do I have to change some config file for setting this flag every time I restart the guest?
1270766674 M * Marillion you want touch flags and echo "..." >> on it
1270766935 M * Marillion and the file are in /etc/vserver/<guest>/ or whereever your config is
1270766986 A * Marillion is debianer, i forget another practice :)
1270767199 M * selim another question in /etc/vserver/<name>/fstab I do have a /usr/portage binding for the gentoo portage system but this binding / mounting won't be mounted at the start of the guest
1270767280 M * selim someone an idea why that won't mount automatically ?
1270767337 M * Bertl hmm?
1270767648 M * Marillion gn8
1270767917 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-171-61.dclient.hispeed.ch
1270769121 M * selim Bertl: thank you, you helped me a great lot, the only thing which I didn't complete is the cpu stuff
1270769135 M * selim but all the other things are working now
1270769145 M * selim thank you so far, for your help
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1270769266 M * Bertl selim: you're welcome!
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