1270513425 M * Bertl okay, updated, this time the real thing :) 1270513799 M * Guy- thanks :) here goes nothing 1270515911 Q * fzylogic Quit: fzylogic 1270516227 Q * jfst Quit: Quitte 1270518009 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1270519687 Q * C14r Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270519754 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270519840 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-71-236-152-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1270520268 J * nick125 ~nick@router-gw1.net.nick125.com 1270522517 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180192137.adsl.alicedsl.de 1270522853 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@c192247.adsl.hansenet.de 1270523189 M * derjohn_foo Bertl, thx ==> patch-2.6.33.2-vs2.3.0.36.30.4.diff 1270523239 M * Bertl yeah, sorry for the mess, for whatever reason, I reverted the patch instead of applying it 1270523250 M * Bertl but the current one is fine 1270523260 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270523260 N * SauLus_ SauLus 1270523284 M * Bertl there will be a hardcfs patch for that one soon 1270523301 M * Bertl I just have to decide which one I'll take, the one from google or the one from ibm 1270523312 M * derjohn_foo well, I dont use hardcfs ATM, so I'm perfectly happy with that one :O) 1270523340 M * Bertl didn't you ask for hardcfs or did I get that confused too? 1270523344 M * derjohn_foo huh? IBM did a hard cfs patch or a vserver "port" to 2.6.33.2 ? 1270523378 M * Bertl the v4 version we used some time comes from ibm 1270523392 M * Bertl the v5 version I wanted to use too, but it crashed the kernel 1270523412 M * derjohn_foo Yes, I did ask, but only because deltas get usually integrated into the patch and I dont want to build all2 day a new new set of my pseuso-distribution kernel packages 1270523425 M * Bertl thus it was reverted .. took the ibm folks two weeks to figure out what is wrong and get back to me 1270523435 M * derjohn_foo 2.6.33.2 is a version I want to roll out on a part of our production 1270523465 M * Bertl turns out, they require a certain kernel option not to be set, otherwise the patch goes crazy 1270523503 M * Bertl now there is a new approach done by a google guy, which promises to be more effective ... 1270523538 M * Bertl so I'll have to check it out and decide which one to pick :) 1270523654 M * derjohn_foo ehhhhhh 1270523671 M * derjohn_foo I leave it out for this revision .... :) 1270523690 M * derjohn_foo thankslot ... I have to leave for my flight to hamburg .... 1270523692 M * derjohn_foo cu 1270523736 M * Bertl cya 1270524299 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270525631 Q * kjj Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270529988 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1270533765 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF45F08.dip.t-dialin.net 1270533818 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1270533829 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1270533936 J * ncopa ~ncopa@180.40.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1270534352 Q * petzsch Read error: Connection reset by peer 1270534453 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1270534469 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1270535368 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-237-231.pools.arcor-ip.net 1270535830 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1270535845 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@213.238.45.2 1270540299 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1270540431 Q * BenG 1270546475 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1270546538 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1270549285 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1270551507 Q * ex Remote host closed the connection 1270551884 J * ex ~ex@85.232.229.248 1270557195 J * http203 ~http203@d80h232.public.uconn.edu 1270561909 P * kir Leaving. 1270565385 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1270565400 J * tjfontaine tjfontaine@tjfontaine.chair.oftc.net 1270565408 P * tjfontaine 1270566000 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1270566303 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1270566323 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1270566759 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-237-231.pools.arcor-ip.net 1270567222 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1270567268 J * smoother ~fircuser@m1e0e36d0.tmodns.net 1270567502 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-237-231.pools.arcor-ip.net 1270567697 M * smoother I am doing a build of a guest system ... has anyone done this on rhel? 1270567809 M * smoother I have an error Can not find configuration for the distribution 'rhServer' 1270568294 Q * smoother Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270568462 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1270568469 M * Bertl morning folks! 1270569924 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1270570169 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1270570803 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1270572227 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270572912 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d073143.adsl.hansenet.de 1270573733 Q * bsarora Remote host closed the connection 1270573973 J * tjfontaine tjfontaine@tjfontaine.chair.oftc.net 1270573992 P * tjfontaine 1270574002 J * smoother ~450ada16@webuser.thegrebs.com 1270574003 J * rooijan ~rrosso@cuba.sonosite.com 1270574076 M * rooijan anyone have a working Ubuntu 10.04 container working? Mine starts but never execute any of the rc startup scripts. I have followed: http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues 1270574221 M * smoother I have done a yum install of vserver on RHEL5.3 ... I have my own repository and copied the repository from the website and included it on my repository in my closed network ... installation went great ... now i am trying to build a guest system .. I have an error 1270574231 M * smoother ERROR: Can not find configuration for the distribution 'rhServer'; please read http://linux-vserver.org/HowToRegisterNewDistributions for information how to add support for your own distribution. 1270574284 M * smoother has anyone installed vserver on RHEL5*? 1270575803 Q * barismetin Quit: Leaving... 1270575924 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1270575996 M * rooijan anyone interested in running Ubuntu 10.04 containers I can not get a deboostrap version to fully work. rc scripts are never executed. However a 8.04 upgraded to 10.04 works fine for me. did an apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade after pointing sources to lucid 1270576182 M * daniel_hozac smoother: what -d option are you supplying to vserver ... build? 1270576471 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1270576478 M * Bertl back now ... 1270576530 M * Bertl rooijan: upstart issues maybe? 1270576574 M * rooijan yep Bertl pretty sure upstart. I followed http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues but no dice 1270577233 M * Bertl what happens if you start the guest? e.g. with --debug? 1270577396 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1270577584 M * smoother #vserver genericname build -m yum --context 42 --hostname=generichostname --interface eth0:10.10.10.20/24 -- -d rhel5 1270577610 M * smoother i think my problem is I have a local repository .. my network is not on the internet .. how can I change the system from needing an external repo? If I use the same line with centos5 at the end it says: 1270577624 M * smoother Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=5&arch=x86_64&repo=addons error was [Errno 4] IOError: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: addons. Please verify its path and try again 1270577630 M * smoother then I tried:: 1270577646 M * smoother #vserver genericname build -m yum --context 42 --hostname=generichostname --interface eth0:10.10.10.20/24 -- -d redhat 1270577671 M * daniel_hozac you have to setup the repos 1270577678 M * smoother cp: cannot stat `/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/.pkg/generichostname/yum/etc/yum.conf': No such file or directory 1270577693 M * daniel_hozac in /etc/vservers/.distributions/centos5/yum.repos.d 1270577695 M * smoother I have repos set up 1270577697 M * smoother ohh ok 1270577718 M * smoother should I use the centos5? even though I have RHEL5? 1270577752 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1270577766 M * daniel_hozac well, you can call it rhel5 if you want 1270577783 M * daniel_hozac but then you have to copy /usr/lib*/util-vserver/distributions/centos5 to that first. 1270578070 J * ntrs ~ntrs@LNeuilly-152-21-3-238.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr 1270578161 M * rooijan bertl: I will dig through the --debug info. My 10.04 is starting and stopping correctly. Just not starting any daemons in /etc/init.d. This one was done with debootstrap. So currently I have a different one working that was done with a dist-upgrade. Thanks for the --debug pointer I will look through and provide feedback. 1270578272 J * fzylogic ~fzylogic@dsl081-243-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1270578337 M * smoother daniel_hozac: That worked!!!! Thanks ... I created a directory called rhel5 in /etc/vserver/.distributions/ cp centos5 (and the redhat directory uper level) changed the yum repos to my locals had to make 1 more change in the yum directory from centos to redhat .. and I am good 1270578362 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1270578563 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:23d:63e5:651a 1270578831 Q * jrklein 1270579101 M * Bertl rooijan: maybe simply no services are selected/enabled? 1270579314 M * rooijan bertl: yep I was wondering about that. I ran update-rc.d ssh defaults to make sshd should start 1270579396 M * rooijan bertl: I don't frequent irc so maybe I am just repeating questions already answered. People on here ok with 10.04 in general and just me? 1270579397 M * Bertl and sshd on the host is restricted (i.e. no collision between IPs?) 1270579422 M * Bertl you can read yourself, the channel is logged 1270579427 M * rooijan yep ssh on host is set to its own ip. other service I can quickly try? 1270579441 M * Bertl but in general, upstart causes a lot of issues, but when done properly seems to work 1270579461 M * Bertl I'd use syslog-ng or cron for testing 1270579470 M * rooijan i am trying rsyslog now 1270579553 M * rooijan yep nothing starts. I must have screwed up somewhere. even echo's in rc scripts never echo. If you say other people have it working let me retrace. I might be ok with dist-upgrade also as I mentioned. 1270579585 M * Bertl which rc scripts? 1270579597 M * Bertl check that you are using the right runlevel 1270579616 M * rooijan /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf 1270579624 M * Bertl (and init style if you are using upstart) 1270579774 M * rooijan i am redoing a debootsrap from scratch and following http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues again. thanks so far. I will make sure I am not missing something and report back 1270579801 M * Bertl okay! 1270579894 M * daniel_hozac you might want to try using the most recent util-vserver and running the debian initpost script. 1270579933 J * jfst ~jfs@ip-83-134-220-145.dsl.scarlet.be 1270580074 M * rooijan daniel_hozac you meant inipost for me correct? I will give that a try also. 1270580090 M * daniel_hozac it corrects a lot of things for upstart. 1270580124 M * daniel_hozac ideally it should just work after running that, but i don't remember if that's true. 1270580270 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1270580272 J * Loki|muh ~loki@satanix.de 1270580317 J * emcepe ~mcp@wolk-project.de 1270580729 Q * mcp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270580731 N * emcepe mcp 1270581622 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx 1270582810 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:23d:63e5:651a 1270582844 J * jfstr ~jfs@ip-83-134-234-141.dsl.scarlet.be 1270583250 Q * jfst Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270584001 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1270585014 M * smoother is there an artical about setting up my vserver on my wider network so I can ssh into it? 1270585299 M * Bertl if you give it a lan or public IP, and make sure to restrict the host's sshd to the host only IP(s), ssh to guest will work 1270585611 M * smoother I am using RHEL5 .. on a restricted lan (no external ips) .. I edited the ifcfg-eth0:1 and ifcfg-eth02 with lan IPs from inside the vserver i can ping an external server and from an external server I can ping the vserver ips ... (i have 2 vservers) 1270585622 M * smoother I can ssh to the host .. but not to the vserver 1270585641 M * smoother ssh 10.134.22.20 ssh: connect to host 10.134.22.20 port 22: Connection refused 1270585646 M * Bertl Linux-VServer doesn't use network virtualization but network isolation 1270585670 M * Bertl so inside the guest, there is no network config 1270585697 M * Bertl you assign an IP (or subset of IPs) from the host to the guest 1270585723 M * smoother how do I do that? 1270585725 M * Bertl (this is usually done by util-vserver on guest startup, when you configured the interfaces) 1270585738 M * smoother ok, i did that 1270585762 M * Bertl when you ssh to the guest IP what happens? 1270585762 M * smoother i assigned the ips when I created the guest .. same ones i created in eth0:1 and eth02 1270585781 M * smoother i do not think I could ping in and out to external servers if i did not do that 1270585819 M * smoother ssh 10.134.22.20 ssh: connect to host 10.134.22.20 port 22: Connection refused 1270585824 M * Bertl you can ping in and out even when the guest is shut down :) 1270585838 M * smoother ohh 1270585863 M * Bertl so, most likely you forgot to restrict the host's sshd 1270585878 M * smoother sorry, this is my 1st day with this program .. although I used vmware on RHEL often .. this is quite different 1270585898 M * Bertl yeah, best forget everything you know about virtual machines :) 1270585910 M * smoother ok, how do I restrict the hosts sshd ... lol will do 1270585940 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#When_I_try_to_ssh_to_the_guest.2C_I_log_into_the_host.2C_even_if_I_installed_sshd_on_the_guest._What.27s_wrong_here.3F 1270586109 M * smoother thanks 1270586113 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1270586127 M * smoother I will work on this .. and let the room know how it goes .. thanks 1270586229 M * Bertl np 1270586302 M * smoother it doesn't look like my vservers have ssh installed 1270586316 M * smoother nor do they have yum to install it 1270586323 M * smoother how do i install these things? 1270586328 M * Bertl how were they installed? 1270586335 M * rooijan apt-get install ssh 1270586347 M * smoother vserver usv1mbss2 build -m yum --context 42 --hostname=usv1mbss2 --interface eth0:10.134.22.19/24 -- -d rhel5 1270586351 M * rooijan or yum in centos 1270586381 M * smoother from inside the vserver? 1270586411 M * smoother yum list bash: yum: command not found 1270586413 M * rooijan yep once setup you almost 99% act like its a real server 1270586428 M * smoother hmmm no yum command 1270586436 M * rooijan what os? 1270586446 M * smoother RHEL5.3 1270586461 M * smoother I have full yum on the host 1270586472 M * Bertl smoother: so your guest most likely uses externalized package management 1270586488 M * Bertl smoother: if you want to change that, internalize it, otherwise use vyum 1270586501 M * smoother ok 1270587064 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270587611 M * smoother I got yum working inside the vservers ... :) from an external ip :) 1270587959 M * smoother how do I change my root password? Or what is the default root password for a vserver? 1270588042 M * rooijan passwd root 1270588090 M * smoother passwd root Changing password for user root. passwd: Authentication token manipulation error 1270588161 M * rooijan daniel_hozac: no initpost did not fix my lucid booting issue 1270588166 Q * jrklein Quit: jrklein 1270588470 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:23d:63e5:651a 1270588672 M * Bertl smoother: check the syslog inside the guest, my best guess would be pam trying to set something (like e.g. the loginuid :) 1270588720 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1270588731 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1270589168 M * smoother i do not have a shadow and shadow- in /etc/ on the vservers .. will this be a problem? 1270589198 M * Bertl might mean that still some packages are missing 1270589227 M * smoother shadow-utils.x86_64 2:4.0.17-14.el5 installed 1270589227 M * Bertl (for normal operation) .. try to check which package contains that (yum should know) 1270589241 M * smoother its installed 1270589251 M * Bertl but the files are missing? 1270589259 M * smoother yea, wierd 1270589267 M * Bertl well, sounds like a yum problem 1270589273 M * smoother lol 1270589274 M * smoother ok 1270589677 M * Bertl you could try removing and reinstalling it 1270589788 M * rooijan bertl: http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues say to set init style to plain. I removed that and now I am getting somewhere. starting ssh and displaying my echo's. just one issue left with shutdown. looks like a timeout waiting for /sbin/init 1270589974 M * smoother ok the solution to not being able to change root password in RHEL (CentOS) is: pwconv 1270589994 M * smoother by default installation no shadow is created ... this simple command makes it 1270590566 M * Bertl rooijan: with init style 'removed' the default is 'sysv' which is fine, as long as you don't want upstrat :) 1270590632 M * Bertl smoother: excellent, maybe document that on a RHEL/Centos guest page on the wiki (there should be one) 1270590697 M * rooijan bertl: perfect for me. upstart is half baked if you ask me. dont see why i would need it on servers really. i have a really clean 64bit u10.04 running now. starts and stops like a champ 1270590991 M * Bertl excellent! :) 1270591055 M * nick125 rooijan: You should write a wiki page....you know, for those of us that haven't had the time to figure it out ;) 1270591141 M * smoother thanks Bertl: someone just needs to cut this entire artical and put it on the vserver wiki: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Virtualization/Vserver 1270591158 M * smoother i might do that later when I get some more time ... I guess I would need to create an account 1270591179 M * rooijan nick125: :-) planning to. i just need to take a break. I have about 6 vservers and 15 pages of notes while I was troubleshooting. later I will figure out all relevant info and make useful docs 1270591179 M * daniel_hozac last time i looked at that page it was horribly inaccurate. 1270591236 M * daniel_hozac rooijan: if you don't use the plain initstyle, you're no longer using upstart. 1270591270 M * nick125 and bad things happen 1270592000 M * rooijan daniel_hozac: maybe I don't understand upstart but I sure can do without it in my env. we have lots of vservers and they are typically very narrow in what they serve. ie MTA, BIND, LAMP etc. so for me starting one service on a vserver with rc is just fine. 1270592052 M * rooijan nick125: bad things when not running upstart? 1270592071 M * nick125 rooijan: Right. 1270592187 M * rooijan nick125: like what? I have upstart Version: 0.6.5-6 still installed and apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade is running clean. 1270594632 Q * jrklein Quit: jrklein 1270595090 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1270595185 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1270595659 Q * smoother Quit: TheGrebs.com CGI:IRC 1270596754 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:7977:b97d:df43 1270597327 Q * jfstr Remote host closed the connection 1270597608 Q * nick125 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1270597887 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1270598158 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1270598216 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1270598231 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1270598352 Q * Snow-Man Ping timeout: 480 seconds