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1270265239 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1270265254 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1270297563 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1270297572 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1270303532 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1270303542 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1270323510 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1270323522 M * Bertl back now ..
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1270325267 J * pdilung ~dilung@p54975F75.dip.t-dialin.net
1270325309 M * pdilung biz: LXC and strange behavior of gentoo guests solved
1270325496 M * pdilung Hollow: have you checked http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309861 ?
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1270328484 M * biz pdilung: great! looks like the root of that problem is the poor magic in OpenRC's src/librc/librc.c, trying to detect LXC, VSERVER, OpenVZ, ... just by looking for certain files in /proc
1270328644 M * Bertl so that goes wrong? if so, in what way?
1270328665 M * biz pdilung> biz: I removed hide_vinfo from cflags
1270328681 M * Bertl ah :)
1270328700 M * biz and that caused OpenRC to think it's starting a LXC :p
1270328742 M * Bertl if it aint Linux-VServer, it has to be LXC :)
1270328851 M * biz if you have a look at it... I wonder how stable that "detection" is, relying purley on certain combinations of files in /proc
1270328914 M * Bertl well, the problem is, there is no 'defined' way to detect that you are inside a Linux-VServer guest
1270328950 M * Bertl IMHO the best approach would be to put that info into a file inside the guest (if you want to let the guest know)
1270328954 M * biz http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/openrc.git;a=blob;f=src/librc/librc.c;h=34bd9e
1270328963 M * biz starting at line 224
1270329010 M * Bertl yeah, but I understand why they do it this way
1270329100 M * biz yeah, I do too. But it would be great if each of that solutions could be identified in a standard way
1270329302 M * biz but anyways... so many people using xen/uml/vserver/openvz/lxc with gentoo/openrc and the magic seems to work... so ;)
1270329412 M * Bertl the problem is, the default identification for Linux-VServer would be the syscall interface
1270329431 M * Bertl so, it would require a program actually call that interface just to detect it
1270329452 M * Bertl and of course, that interface can be 'hidden' from the guest as well
1270329486 M * Bertl IMHO the VxID check is quite appropriate
1270329507 M * Bertl anybody setting hide_vinfo is trying to disguise the fact that the guest is a guest
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1270329633 M * biz ok, so the only obvious one that's fishy is the LXC test
1270329634 J * ntrs ~ntrs@nimitz.rosehosting.com
1270329642 M * biz else if (file_regex("/proc/self/cgroup", ":/.+$"))
1270329656 M * biz or?
1270329757 M * biz I'll ask some LXC people tomorrow on how to identify it properly and will file a bug.. the LXC detecion in there is quite recent
1270330054 M * Bertl yes, the LXC detection will detect newer Linux-VServer implementations as well
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1270336112 M * pdilung biz: Bertl: Sorry, guys I didn't follow, was working, company stuff :)
1270336240 M * pdilung biz: Bertl: However, I created an ebuild for newer util-vserver and using OpenRC + util-vserver-0.30.216_pre2883 + 2.6.33vs2.3.0.36.30.3
1270336246 M * pdilung works nice
1270336266 M * Bertl good!
1270336269 M * pdilung I also use cgroups
1270336309 M * pdilung Bertl: you maybe remember that short discussion among us regarding memory capping and proper showing in free from 1st half of march
1270336327 M * Bertl somewhat, zes
1270336330 M * Bertl *yes
1270336352 M * pdilung nice stuff Bertl :)
1270336362 M * pdilung I am usin mostly SunOS
1270336389 M * pdilung and zones, which are similar, but VS + CGROUPS is quite a nice stuff
1270336446 M * pdilung see you guys
1270336453 M * Bertl cya, have fun!
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