1269907928 J * ktwilight ~keliew@60.39-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1269908207 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269908290 J * jholland ~jholland@pool-71-163-186-242.washdc.fios.verizon.net 1269908395 M * jholland anybody home 1269908397 M * jholland ? 1269908409 M * Bertl yep 1269908439 M * jholland I am a irc newbie........but have some questions about vserver 1269908455 M * jholland I just found out about it and installed it on a RHEL system 1269908466 M * jholland I got a VM working from a template 1269908475 M * jholland how does the yum install method get to install media? 1269908478 M * Bertl you mean Guest? 1269908487 M * jholland yeah, I installed a Guest 1269908517 M * Bertl k, the yum build method will use a yum repository you specify 1269908531 M * jholland does it do a complete install from scratch? 1269908555 M * Bertl basically, which means fetching the required packages and installing it into the guest dir 1269908580 M * jholland Is Centos 5.4 supported? 1269908599 M * Bertl if you have a repository for that, it should work 1269908630 M * Bertl make sure that you have recent util-vserver though 1269908634 M * jholland OK.......I'll probably try and install it on my Centos box then and look into it some more 1269908679 M * jholland has it been used with red hat? I work for a red hat partner 1269908785 M * Bertl the maintain of util-vserver uses fedora (and also builds for centos), so that would be a yes 1269908807 M * jholland OK thanks 1269908809 M * jholland bye 1269908859 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1269908864 M * Bertl feel free to hang around! 1269909099 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1269909111 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.28.14.124 1269909154 M * fruitwerks I got everything sorted! I had a rouge config line hidden in my apache conf files. 1269909167 M * fruitwerks thanks everyone.. I still have a lot of q's, but no time tonight :) 1269909824 M * Bertl np, cya 1269910122 Q * quasisane Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269912789 M * jholland can guests use dhcp to get their IP? 1269912836 M * Bertl no, but the host can request an IP for the guest (via dhcp) 1269913026 M * jholland hmm......I'll have to digest that. 1269913092 M * jholland seems pretty cool though, I got a couple guests working......for some reason I am interested in virtualization. One of the first things I checked out was Solaris containers. This seems like the same idea but for linux 1269913101 M * jholland to state the obvious 1269913124 M * Bertl yes, Linux-VServer is basically the same, give or take a feature 1269913127 M * jholland I've tried some other things, but always wanted to find a container like solution for linux. openvz didn't work for me 1269913163 M * jholland I should call it a day - thanks for the help! 1269913188 M * Bertl have a good one, and you're welcome! 1269913668 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1269918027 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@d003056.adsl.hansenet.de 1269918435 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269918435 N * SauLus_ SauLus 1269918707 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-76-24-80-97.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1269919687 Q * eyck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269919705 Q * ex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269919995 Q * Medivh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269920572 Q * AndrewLee Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269921623 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-59-154.iusacell.net 1269921778 J * eyck ~eyck@77.79.198.67 1269922270 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1269923031 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA] 1269926330 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269926851 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.5.251 1269927012 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1269927106 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1269927209 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw 1269928602 J * ncopa ~ncopa@180.40.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1269929082 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1269929097 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1269929512 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269929590 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269930084 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1269930240 J * dna ~dna@31-216-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1269931277 J * MeCooL mecool@94.128.20.64 1269931409 A * MeCooL Hi all,(F) 1269932073 M * Waldgeist hi 1269932469 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1269932747 M * geb hi folks :) 1269933084 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1269934355 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.14.124 1269936212 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269937047 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1269938101 M * ghislain hi 1269939716 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF44BA3.dip.t-dialin.net 1269939897 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1269940122 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1269940303 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@213.238.45.2 1269940478 Q * imcsk8 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1269940489 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-59-154.iusacell.net 1269942846 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1269943262 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1269943491 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1269943566 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1269943572 P * kir 1269943645 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1269944151 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1269944182 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1269944286 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1269944420 J * dna ~dna@31-216-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1269944427 Q * dna 1269944866 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1269945045 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1269945240 M * harry hahaa.... wifi at the office 1269945245 M * harry eat that! ;) 1269945292 M * petzsch harry: owned :-P 1269945314 M * harry you bet! 1269945322 M * harry this laptops keyb sucks tough... 1269945338 M * harry need to find a way to use the other computer and use this as gateway 1269945505 M * harry bluetooth pan... serial network... 1269945512 M * harry (cabled stuff is broken) 1269945516 M * harry bleh... 1269945674 M * petzsch serial network sounds like fun 1269946037 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1269947852 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF44BA3.dip.t-dialin.net 1269949409 J * gl2k10 ~gl@janus.hq.lixto.com 1269949415 M * gl2k10 hi folks :) 1269949447 M * petzsch gl2k10: hi 1269949468 M * gl2k10 hi petzsch 1269949489 M * gl2k10 i am having a little problem in debugging a non starting vserver context 1269949526 M * gl2k10 its a fresh copy of a working "bare metall" installation. opensuse. 1269949551 M * gl2k10 i followed this: http://linux-vserver.org/Installing_an_openSUSE_vserver_guest#Running_openSUSE_vservers_on_a_Debian_server 1269949644 M * gl2k10 how can i see whats going on between: vserver test01 start ... and New network context is 49151 , Adding, New security context is 49151, Usage: save_ctxinfo *, An error occured while executing the vserver startup sequence; when, there are no other messages, it is very likely that the init-script, (/etc/rc.d/rc 3) failed. 1269949696 M * gl2k10 the vserver i created and cxopied the content of the opensuse install into was created vi build -m skeleton. i removed everything within the vservers root after that 1269949788 M * gl2k10 i also tried putting true at the end (before exit 0) of /etc/rc.d/rc 1269949792 M * gl2k10 as suggested 1269949813 M * gl2k10 but basically, i am feeling a little blind. 1269949867 M * gl2k10 oh, and that one i used too: http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Howto_virtualize_an_exisiting_Linux_server 1269949946 M * gl2k10 Mar 30 15:52:10 localhost kernel: [ 3896.195041] Not cloning cgroup for unused subsystem ns 1269949947 M * gl2k10 Mar 30 15:52:11 localhost kernel: [ 3896.398862] Not cloning cgroup for unused subsystem ns 1269949959 M * gl2k10 is written to my syslog when i try to start the vserver 1269950161 M * gl2k10 any hints are welcome 1269950204 M * petzsch the message on cgroup subsystem ns makes me thinking: http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Cgroups#Kernel_configuration 1269950217 M * petzsch but not sure if that is related to what you are seeing 1269950294 M * petzsch never migrated a suse server, but what the others meight need to help your: distribution of the host, kernel and util-vserver version 1269950329 M * gl2k10 CONFIG_CGROUP_NS=y 1269950336 M * gl2k10 that aint real 1269950355 M * gl2k10 wtf are the debian maintainers of vserver doing? 1269950391 M * petzsch that's exactly what i was thinking when putting debian testing on my vhost1 :-) 1269950407 M * gl2k10 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64, util-vserver, linux-image-2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 1269950426 M * gl2k10 petzsch: but its lenny, good, old lenny, and no testing rellease :( 1269950486 M * petzsch sorry, gotta go... apointment... good luck and i'll be back in about 2 hours, have a kernel config here that i dervied from the debian testing kernel that could help you 1269950490 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1269951148 M * gl2k10 ok, http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems , the debian debootstrap way works like a charm, untill it tries to start the vserver... 1269951166 M * gl2k10 ok, seems like vserver@debvian lenny amd64 is seriously broken 1269951353 J * SoftIce ~awk@gw1.security.web.za 1269951373 M * SoftIce hi guys, lame q vserver-copy is gone? how do I copy a vserver from X name to Y name for a backup incase 1 goes pair shaped? 1269951476 J * ghislain1 ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1269951626 M * gl2k10 ok, ill go for the manual compile of a vserver enabled kernel + vserver utils 1269951634 M * gl2k10 what versions should i choose? 1269951660 M * gl2k10 2.6.22.19 is a little old, isnt it? 1269951709 M * Guy- SoftIce: just rsync it 1269951731 M * Guy- SoftIce: or, depending on what exactly you are planning to do, cp -al it 1269951737 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1269951823 Q * ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269951918 M * _Shiva_ gl2k10: and where is the news..? i mean according to: "Debian is seriously broken" ;-) 1269951931 M * gl2k10 just before i start... soem verification.... linux-2.6.22.19 + patch-2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7.diff + util-vserver-0.30.215 should match fine or? 1269951973 M * gl2k10 shiva: the news to me is, that i expected the debian stable rellease to either contain something in a working condition or not at all. 1269951976 M * _Shiva_ gl2k10: http://www.linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Debian#Issues_with_the_current_2.6.26_Kernel 1269952002 M * _Shiva_ Lenny ist Debian "sta[b]le"... 1269952028 M * gl2k10 shiva: klar 1269952071 M * gl2k10 shiva: well, to my eyes it looks like the list is now even longer. the point: vservers do not start at all anymore. is missing 1269952311 M * gl2k10 ok, let the compile begin 1269952565 M * gl2k10 btw. is there any distribution with "good" vserver support? 1269952582 M * gl2k10 (out of the box, that is) 1269952634 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:552c:b97d:df43 1269952713 M * BenG none SFAIK gl2k10 1269952739 M * BenG so choose your favourite and compile your own tools, or use someone elses addon packages 1269952868 M * gl2k10 BenG: thanks. really odd 1269952878 M * BenG yes, a shame 1269952969 M * gl2k10 well, cant wait to get this thingy going. havent looked into vserver for 5 years now :) 1269953031 M * BenG suprised you are going for 2.6.22.19, thought you'd want the latest and greatest, to see the developments 1269953086 M * BenG finding 2.6.31 very stable 1269953086 M * gl2k10 BenG: well :) i also mentioned that i want to get this going ;) well, hard cpu and memorylimits are really new to me. there was no such thing as far as i remember in 2004/5 1269953144 M * BenG that stuff is moving out of the vserver patch and into the mainline cgroups system now gl2k10 1269953156 M * BenG with the latest patches and utils 1269953176 M * gl2k10 BenG: hehe, it live is soooo fast 1269953181 M * BenG :) 1269953263 M * gl2k10 this was my latest aproach untill now: patch-2.6.3-vs0.09 1269953273 M * gl2k10 gogole doesnt forget :) 1269953275 A * _Shiva_ is running Gentoo on hosts 1269953349 M * BenG wow gl2k10, I came in at vs2.2.x 1269953354 M * gl2k10 shiva: i never managed to see the advantage of gentoo ofer lfs ;) 1269953452 M * _Shiva_ gl2k10: it's LFS with a package manager and deps 1269953455 M * _Shiva_ :-) 1269953466 M * gl2k10 BenG: was a nice time. i unfortunatly never managed to finnish what i had planned to do with vserver. (reusing a bunch of old 64bit sparc machines packed with ram and storage.....at that time ;) 1269953533 M * gl2k10 e 4500 with 8 cores and 32gb ram and things like that, sounded huge back when intel cpus where still more or less childsplaystuff :9 1269953556 M * BenG sounds like a fine project 1269953563 M * BenG laters, gotta go 1269953566 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1269953743 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1269953756 Q * BenG 1269953787 M * gl2k10 ok, ill be back when i have news. 1269953790 M * gl2k10 cu 1269953795 Q * gl2k10 Quit: Leaving 1269955045 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF44BA3.dip.t-dialin.net 1269955836 Q * SoftIce Read error: Connection reset by peer 1269955860 J * SoftIce ~awk@gw1.security.web.za 1269956277 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@91.178.150.109 1269956277 Q * ktwilight Read error: Connection reset by peer 1269957157 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.28.17.214 1269957700 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1269957705 M * Bertl morning folks! 1269957773 M * fruitwerks hey hey 1269957970 Q * jrklein Remote host closed the connection 1269957979 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:552c:b97d:df43 1269958718 M * petzsch good morning Bertl 1269958821 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1269959141 Q * MeCooL Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269959157 Q * ghislain1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269959813 M * fruitwerks so I'm either looking for the wrong thing, or the documentation is kinda weak? 1269959882 M * petzsch what wiki page in special are your refering to? 1269959891 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1269959924 Q * jrdnyquist Quit: Leaving 1269960331 M * fruitwerks ahh well, I guess I am looking for the 'enterprise level secrets for linux-vserver - tips and tricks' page I can't find anything other than foo doesn't work or basic how-to install 1269960346 M * fruitwerks lol 1269960415 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269960431 M * petzsch well no one pays the community for documenting, so the focus is on the sexy things: coding, kernel hacking and so on ;-) 1269960471 M * petzsch and the enterprises using linux-vserver don't care to give their competitors help in adoptiong vserver (my personl feeling about it) 1269960528 M * Bertl fruitwerks: help with the docu/wiki is always welcome ... i.e. go crazy there :) 1269960548 M * fruitwerks yeah, I know how it is, same thing in the secret world snake genetics :) 1269960552 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1269960812 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269960926 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1269960950 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.27.229 1269961142 M * fruitwerks so any way to track network use per vserver? 1269961190 M * petzsch using iptables traffic accounting rules... if you wan't a production solution, take a look at openVCP 1269961211 M * fruitwerks hmm.. thanks 1269961251 M * fruitwerks oh that is so what I was looking for 1269961268 M * fruitwerks a webmin cluster would have driven me mad lol 1269961295 M * petzsch hehe, your welcome ;-) if you wan't to see it live pm me for a temporary account to http://vman.kunden-server.org 1269961369 M * fruitwerks screenshot is good enough - I knew without reading a single word. 1269962308 M * fruitwerks should I run stable or svn? 1269962319 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1269962331 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.13.96 1269962332 M * petzsch svn trunk is very stable imho 1269962346 M * fruitwerks but is it any better? 1269962351 M * petzsch see the tickets in trac... there are some issues fixed in the trunk 1269962371 M * fruitwerks sounds like a yes 1269962372 M * petzsch in stable there is a issue with switching images (gentoo<->debian) 1269962383 M * petzsch recently fixed 1269962498 M * petzsch when using the trunk and if you want to use the german translation you need to run a script in the trunk wich prepares the gettext strings 1269962523 M * fruitwerks I'm goint to try stable for now, this is pure gentoo at the moment 1269962552 M * petzsch ok, there is no ready made image there for gentoo, but an howto on the wiki how to make one 1269962570 M * petzsch look in the history of the channel, i've mentioned it yesterday or the day before 1269962572 M * fruitwerks oh even better lol 1269962758 M * fruitwerks can you post the link again? 1269962793 M * petzsch don't know if there is also an english one: http://www.openvcp.org/wiki/gentoo64bit-deutsch 1269962871 M * petzsch http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2010-03/LOG_2010-03-28.txt check about the syslog-ng issue, you will probably also encounter it 1269962887 P * kir Leaving. 1269963046 M * fruitwerks thanks 1269963074 J * jholland_ ~jholland@wsip-70-168-108-26.dc.dc.cox.net 1269963086 M * fruitwerks do I need syslog? we are using metalog on the host 1269963097 Q * jholland_ Remote host closed the connection 1269963114 M * petzsch syslog-ng is preinstalled on the stage3 image on the host linked in the howto... i've also replaced it with metalog 1269963125 M * petzsch metalog startes without errors 1269963189 M * fruitwerks wait a minute lol... this is a stage 1269963215 M * fruitwerks I just need to install vpc on the host 1269963231 J * jholland_ ~jholland@wsip-70-168-108-26.dc.dc.cox.net 1269963272 Q * jholland_ 1269963295 J * jholland_ ~jholland@wsip-70-168-108-26.dc.dc.cox.net 1269963309 Q * jholland_ 1269963447 M * petzsch vpc? 1269963489 M * fruitwerks vcp 1269963490 M * petzsch you normally use openVCP to create the guests and for that you need templates of the guest systems you wish to create 1269963524 M * fruitwerks we are going to deploy our own template 1269963526 M * petzsch if you are still at installing openVCP, keep the tutorial and noted on gentoo in a guest, for later ;-) 1269963544 M * fruitwerks yeah, I bookmarked it, thanks 1269963606 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1269963612 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1269963642 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1269963894 M * fruitwerks ./configure can't find python lol 1269964126 Q * barismetin Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269964264 M * petzsch fruitwerks: on a gentoo host, that means "have fun compiling" 1269964309 M * fruitwerks yeah :) 1269964392 M * daniel_hozac or --disable-python 1269964425 M * daniel_hozac well, depends on what you get it from i guess. 1269965163 M * fruitwerks gentoo has a funny naming, I just made a symlink 1269965246 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1269965641 M * petzsch got a question on http://linux-vserver.org/Standard_non-shared_quota : do i need one physical partiton (or LVM partition) for each vserver or is there a way to use quota if all my vservers are on a shared partition 1269965643 M * petzsch = 1269965675 M * Bertl quota not without filesystem support, disk limits yes 1269965687 M * Bertl i.e. do you really mean user/group quota? 1269965699 M * petzsch i mean user/group quota inside the guest 1269965735 M * petzsch than i don't get that wiki page, i could just use the physical partition devices files instead of vroot devices then 1269965736 M * Bertl xfs IIRC, supports 'project' quota, that is the closest you can get on a shared partition 1269965741 M * petzsch where is the benefit of that aproach? 1269967171 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1269967956 M * Bertl nothing 1269968049 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1269968111 M * ghislain ahh quota... such a wonderfull world... 1269968195 M * petzsch ghislain: what have you been smoking? *jokingly* 1269968377 M * ghislain petzsch: i cannot tell you, if i do i'll had to kill you ;) 1269969371 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1269969557 M * geb ghislain, just like internet by orange and ssh ;) 1269969758 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1269970223 J * vserver_guy ~vserver@mirror.sonassi.com 1269970228 M * vserver_guy hi guys 1269970246 M * vserver_guy how can you specify the source IP with linux-vserver for guests 1269970261 M * vserver_guy when util-vserver is handling virtual interfaces 1269970281 M * vserver_guy normally i would use #route add -host 192.168.2.105 dev eth0:1 1269970297 M * vserver_guy but given util-vserver creates the interfaces - how can you use the above command? 1269970731 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1269971078 M * Bertl util-vserver doesn't create interfaces, it just assigns IPs and only if you tell it to do so 1269971102 M * vserver_guy ok, but how would you do the above? 1269971105 M * Bertl and whatever works for you 'normally' will work for guests too 1269971126 M * vserver_guy normally, you would do it by interface (eth0:2, eth0:3 etc.) 1269971137 M * Bertl eth0:2 is not an interface 1269971152 M * Bertl eth0 is the interface, eth0:2 is an alias 1269971164 M * vserver_guy but when util-vserver handles the ip's, then there is no aliases 1269971180 M * Bertl sure, if you configure the 'name' entry, you'll get an alias 1269971204 M * Bertl just do echo 2 >name (in interfaces//) 1269971217 M * Bertl (stop the guest first, then start it again) 1269971250 M * fback good evening! 1269971306 M * fback Bertl: any progress with ipv6 stack since 2.3.0.36.28? 1269971329 M * Bertl nope, bonbons says everything is fine, nobody tested yet 1269971356 M * Bertl so, if you see any issues, please report here or via ML 1269971393 M * fback well... 36.28 is not latest, and there's still problem with binding 1269971422 M * vserver_guy ok, I added the name (restarted the guest), should it show up in "ifconfig" in the guest (as it doesn't) 1269971426 M * fback (this may be caused by libc and/or daemon code too, of course) 1269971432 M * Bertl fback: so testing with the recent kernels and filing a bug report would be appreciated 1269971451 M * Bertl vserver_guy: did you _first_ stop the guest as I said? 1269971465 M * fback Bertl: are you going to support 2.6.32, as mainline plans to do? 1269971471 M * Bertl yes 1269971477 M * vserver_guy I re-started? 1269971480 M * fback or I should move to .33? 1269971482 M * vserver_guy I'll stop, then start 1269971497 M * Bertl you need to stop it _before_ you change the name entry 1269971531 M * vserver_guy ok, did that - still not showing in "ifconfig" 1269971533 M * Bertl otherwise you will end up with the ip assigned without alias, which will not be removed by util-vserver (you get a bunch of error messages on start/stop) 1269971555 M * Bertl vserver_guy: you are not reading what I write, please do so :) 1269971556 M * vserver_guy i take it the error you are referring to is "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" 1269971632 M * fback Bertl: I'll upgrade this evening then and let you know if the problem still exists. 1269971671 M * fback btw, I just noticed (very common) problem with sorting (the table with experimental patches) 1269971718 M * fback I'll fix it later, hollow is still maintaining it? 1269971755 M * vserver_guy vserver_guy: did you _first_ stop the guest as I said? ........ yes :) 1269972114 M * Bertl vserver_guy: start the guest, remove the 'name' entry, stop it 1269972129 M * Bertl then add the name entry back and restart it (as I suggested) 1269972175 M * Bertl it's not terribly complicated, if you have eth0 in the 'dev' entry and you start the guest, the ip will be added to eth0 1269972181 M * vserver_guy ahah - bertl, gotcha ;) 1269972188 M * Bertl if you then change (while the guest is running) dev to eth1 1269972197 M * Bertl the shutdown will not find the IP on eth1 1269972225 M * Bertl thus it will not be removed, you get the netlink error on the next startup 1269972231 M * Bertl (because the IP is already there) 1269972235 M * vserver_guy i understand :) 1269972249 M * vserver_guy thanks very much 1269972265 M * Bertl also note that with or without 'name' entry makes no difference 1269972289 M * Bertl i.e. there is no advantage you would have with an alias over normal secondaries 1269972683 M * Bertl fback: yes, tx! 1269973405 J * petzsch1 ~markus@p4FF46937.dip.t-dialin.net 1269973611 M * fruitwerks for openvcp, I have to run the daemon on each vserver, or the host? 1269973697 M * fback Bertl: fixed, commited, hollow notified :-) 1269973732 M * petzsch1 fruitwerks: only on the host 1269973758 M * fruitwerks petzsch1 - can I pm you, I don't want to talk OT in the chan 1269973775 Q * petzsch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269973781 N * petzsch1 petzsch 1269973797 M * petzsch fruitwerks: do so if you like 1269974245 Q * jrklein Quit: jrklein 1269974884 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.28.17.214 1269975318 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269975966 J * AndrewLe1 ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw 1269975973 J * menomc ~amery@shell.opensde.net 1269975998 J * tam_ ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1269975999 J * fLoo_ ~fLoo@fs.coresec.de 1269976071 J * Hollow_ ~bene@shiva.xnull.de 1269976133 Q * smash_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269976142 Q * AndrewLee synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1269976142 Q * fzylogic synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1269976142 Q * dannf synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1269976142 Q * mnemoc synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1269976142 Q * Hollow synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1269976142 Q * fLoo synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1269976142 Q * tam synthon.oftc.net weber.oftc.net 1269976197 J * fzylogic ~fzylogic@dsl081-243-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1269976223 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1269976388 N * AndrewLe1 AndrewLee 1269976719 N * Hollow_ Hollow 1269977192 Q * bonbons synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * FireEgl synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * sur5r synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * hijacker_ synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * ktwilight_ synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * ex synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * SauLus synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * fback synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * FIChTe synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * pmjdebruijn synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * kolorafa synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * BobR_afk synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * bragon synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * DelTree_ synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * hel synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * Guy- synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * sladen synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * DoberMann[PullA] synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977192 Q * fosco synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1269977196 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1269977196 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@91.178.150.109 1269977196 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1269977196 J * SauLus ~SauLus@d003056.adsl.hansenet.de 1269977196 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1269977196 J * FIChTe fichte@bashpipe.de 1269977196 J * pmjdebruijn pascal@jester.pcode.nl 1269977196 J * kolorafa ~kolorafa@irc.kolorafa.dlk.pl 1269977196 J * BobR_afk odie@IRC.13thfloor.at 1269977196 J * bragon ~Alexandre@81.93.247.165 1269977196 J * DelTree_ ~deplagne@goldorak3.eric.deplagne.name 1269977196 J * hel ~hel@portos.lennackers.de 1269977196 J * Guy- ~korn@195.56.55.102 1269977196 J * sladen ~paul@starsky.19inch.net 1269977196 J * DoberMann[PullA] ~james@cap31-6-88-180-72-76.fbx.proxad.net 1269977196 J * fosco fosco@marx.wirefull.org 1269977214 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1269977214 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:470:e056:1:223:54ff:fe89:b207 1269977214 J * sur5r sur5r@courante.etherkiller.de 1269977348 J * jpic_ ~jpic@perso.chocolatpistache.com 1269977417 N * jpic_ jpic 1269977521 P * jpic 1269978003 N * menomc mnemoc 1269978182 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269978352 Q * fback Quit: kernel upgrade 1269979291 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1269979303 M * fback Bertl: the problem with oidentd still exists 1269979329 M * Bertl okay, could you make a test case for bonbons please? 1269979342 M * Bertl bonbons: could you take a look into that please? 1269979357 M * petzsch lol: "Erst hatte das europäische Markenamt den doppeldeutigen Namen "Fucking Hell" für ein Bier zurückgewiesen. Jetzt darf das Gebräu aus dem österreichischen Ort Fucking doch so heißen." (sorry for the german) 1269979369 M * bonbons Bertl: sure 1269979381 M * fback and here's the problem: 1269979385 M * fback (just 2 lines) 1269979386 M * fback bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(113), sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")}, 16) = 0 1269979392 M * fback [...] 1269979399 M * fback bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET6, sin6_port=htons(113), inet_pton(AF_INET6, "::", &sin6_addr), sin6_flowinfo=0, sin6_scope_id=0}, 28) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already in use) 1269979605 M * bonbons fback: both from same context? that works with vanilla? 1269979659 M * fback yes, and last time I checked -- yes 1269979663 M * bonbons as far as I understood that should fail on vanilla unless your sockets are IPv4/IPv6 only 1269980151 M * fback bonbons: huh 1269980161 M * fback I tried it on the host 1269980190 M * fback and it works, because it binds in reverse order 1269980204 M * fback it first binds to :: and then fails on 0.0.0.0 1269980237 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269980493 M * fback any ideas why the order is changed? 1269980537 M * Bertl that usually depends on the (g)libc 1269980575 M * fback it's exactly the same both on the host and the guest 1269980669 M * fback It's not random, it always works on the host, and never in the guest, or I should buy some lottery :) 1269980738 M * fback I have some idea 1269980759 Q * fback Quit: quick test 1269981116 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1269981138 M * fback so it's not the order they're defined in the config :) 1269981523 M * jholland hey, I'm new to this place, I have a question - vserver seems to be working really well for me with centos, has anyone used it with red hat with subscriptions? Do you have to pay for a full subscription for each instance? 1269981693 M * petzsch you should contact redhat about that 1269981788 M * jholland i work for a red hat partner - there's a big push toward their stuff (KVM,RHEV) but I would like to suggest vserver when it would make sense - I don't know if they would even honor support agreements for a vserver setup though - thought someone here might know 1269981828 M * Bertl I doubt that, as a) you need a kernel with Linux-VServer support (which is not a kernel supported by RHEL) 1269981852 M * Bertl and b) you are running a reduced version of RHEL in the guest (no hardware access, etc) 1269982049 Q * fback Quit: Reconnecting 1269982050 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1269982078 M * jholland yeah, I thought the same things - guess we could suggest it to centos people though 1269982381 M * fback Bertl: then I don't have any issues with ipv6 :) 1269982417 M * Bertl okay great! :) 1269982429 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1269982434 Q * thierryp 1269982540 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1269982547 M * fback Bertl: btw, I have vserver-enabled kernel with sun's virtualbox running alongside, this seems to work perfectly stable too 1269983082 M * Bertl I sure hope so :) 1269983112 M * Bertl using kvm here so that is supposed to work 1269983189 M * fback I had to virtualize ms server 2003, not even microsoft provided working tool, the only I've found was from vmware 1269983240 M * fback virtualbox is (mostly) free, even for specific commercial installations 1269983258 M * fback and it works with vmware-created machine images :) 1269983268 M * Bertl so does kvm 1269983282 M * fback and it provides virtual rdp to connect to console 1269983310 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1269983324 M * fback this is very handy, when one has to deal with ms products ... 1269983478 M * Bertl kvm has vnc, works fine too 1269983513 M * Bertl but I do not use ms windows(tm), so I do not care about rdc 1269983517 M * Bertl *rdp even 1269983533 M * fback Bertl: yup, I remember :) 1269983642 M * jholland there is rdesktop for linux, I've used it to connect to ms machines/vms 1269983668 M * jholland better performance than vnc 1269983937 M * fback plus sharing devices (and even usb ports, when using MS client!) 1269984252 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1269984314 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@c175154.adsl.hansenet.de 1269984421 M * mnemoc hi, what's the trick to make util-vserver install sid-alike distro files? 1269984421 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.3.213 1269984448 M * Bertl mnemoc: hmm? 1269984516 M * mnemoc Bertl: in /etc/vservers/.distributions/ ... i see debian stuff in the tarball, but it only install fc/rh/suse for me 1269984529 M * mnemoc or i'm supposed to cp them? 1269984594 M * Bertl check with daniel_hozac, but I presume you do the distribution install? 1269984626 M * mnemoc i don't ask for fc/rh/suse distros, they just "get there" 1269984643 M * mnemoc but i'm looking for the way to "ask" for the debian/ubuntu ones :) 1269984652 M * Bertl get there by doing what? 1269984659 M * mnemoc make install 1269984697 M * Bertl unusual ... anyway, daniel_hozac is the person to talk to 1269984797 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1269984862 J * ntrs ~ntrs@77.29.3.213 1269984883 M * mnemoc Bertl: thanks, i'll wait for him 1269985117 Q * swen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269985228 M * daniel_hozac /usr/lib*/util-vserver/distributions/debian is where the Debian files get installed. 1269985313 M * daniel_hozac do you not have that? 1269985316 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: oh, and what is /etc/vservers/.distributions/ then? 1269985331 M * mnemoc yes, /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions is fully populated 1269985666 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: can one make vserver build -m debootstrap use a premounted /vservers/foo dir? 1269988537 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: /etc/vservers is for site customization. 1269988559 M * daniel_hozac the Fedora/Red Hat directories are created because there are scripts that automatically put stuff there. 1269988710 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1269988714 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fe60:79d4 1269988752 M * daniel_hozac currently, there is no way to keep a full tree there. 1269988760 M * daniel_hozac lost+found is the only thing ignored. 1269989427 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: weee... it's installing! :) thanks! 1269991316 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1269992508 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1269992708 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.244.63.127 1269993242 N * fLoo_ fLoo