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1269837093 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1269837109 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1269857843 P * glen 
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1269860714 J * lownoize ~lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de
1269860725 M * lownoize hi
1269860845 M * lownoize i have a strange problem with jboss runing in a vserver guest, when i use -b 0.0.0.0 it binds only to the ip address configured on eth0 and not to lo 
1269860866 M * lownoize Kernel: 2.6.32.6-vs2.3.0.36.28 and util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2864
1269861392 M * lownoize if i do the same on a normal linux host it binds to both interfaces 
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1269862135 J * mcp ~mcp@wolk-project.de
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1269863913 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com
1269864359 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr
1269864454 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net
1269864653 J * sleblanc ~serge@LAubervilliers-153-53-1-14.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1269864762 M * sleblanc I have some difficulties with upstare un guest vserver. The ssd server don't want start automatily. And I must launce it by /etc/init.d/ssh start.
1269865707 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1269865713 M * Bertl morning folks!
1269866118 M * ghislain morning bertl
1269866830 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.3.22
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1269868003 M * sleblanc After conducting the procedure described here: http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues I have some errors in the guest. when I decided to start a service.(Mar 29 12:56:23 karmic-guest1 init: Caught abort, core dumped).
1269868006 M * Bertl lownoize: you probably have the single ip special casing on, and a single IP assigned to the guest :)
1269868023 M * Bertl lownoize: use ~single_ip in nflags for that guest
1269868483 M * Bertl sleblanc: sounds like upstart dies on something, maybe enable logging or analyze the coredump?
1269868544 M * Bertl last time we talked the maintained of upstart promised to fix a few 'features' in upstart so that it doesn't crash when e.g. no console is available and so on ...
1269868551 M * Bertl *maintainer
1269868677 M * sleblanc Could you explain mi, how analyze the coredump ?
1269868682 Q * barismetin Read error: Connection reset by peer
1269868708 M * Bertl well, you can use gdb (assuming that upstart was built with debug info) to see where it dumps
1269868776 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
1269868883 M * sleblanc I use a karmic uploaded with "vserver ... -m debootstrap -- ..."
1269868966 M * sleblanc I doubt init was built with debug info . 
1269868968 M * Bertl I don't know if that contains debug symbols or not, you have to check with ubuntu folks for that
1269868997 M * Bertl on mandriva, there are packages containing the debug version, so it's easy to install that
1269869176 M * sleblanc Before the coredump i have receives this message :
1269869186 M * sleblanc Mar 29 12:56:23 karmic-guest1 init: Failed to spawn hello pre-start process: unable to open console: No such file or directory
1269869186 M * sleblanc Mar 29 12:56:23 karmic-guest1 init: system.c:110: Unhandled error from system_setup_console: No such file or directory
1269869186 M * sleblanc Mar 29 12:56:23 karmic-guest1 init: Caught abort, core dumped
1269869192 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr
1269869465 M * sleblanc Mi hello stanzas script redirect the ouput tu current stdout with «console output». 
1269869479 M * Bertl so, try adding a /dev/console to the guest
1269869494 M * Bertl (doesn't need to be the host console, just a tty IIRC)
1269869522 M * sleblanc Could you explain more. Please.
1269869573 M * Bertl e.g. do 'cp -va /dev/tty10 /vservers/<guest>/dev/console'
1269869668 M * sleblanc On the host ?
1269869699 M * Bertl yes, you want to 'copy' the device (/dev/tty10 here) into the 'guest' so that it becomes accessible
1269869780 M * sleblanc Done !
1269869923 M * Bertl upstart (from that guest) should now output stuff on tty10
1269869941 M * sleblanc How now show the /dev/tty10 on the host ?
1269870044 M * sleblanc Well, the service hello now can start.
1269870133 M * Bertl usually tty10 is the 10th vt on a PC type machine
1269870149 M * Bertl i.e. you can switch to it with CTRL-ALT-F10 locally
1269870196 M * sleblanc Unfortunately, no.
1269870200 M * Bertl if you want something for remote, you might consider using a pts instead, although creating and attaching is a little more difficult
1269870231 M * Bertl you could try with /dev/tty too (which is the 'current' terminal)
1269870267 M * sleblanc Ok, 
1269870350 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection
1269870405 M * sleblanc Now, i have again the coredumps.
1269870465 M * Bertl well, just means that a) the issue is not fixed in upstart (requiring a console) and b) it doesn't like the current terminal
1269870486 M * Bertl good news is you have quite a number of ttyXX to use
1269870664 M * sleblanc I have swichoff  tty[16].conf like explain in «Upstart issues» http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues.
1269870686 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF476F7.dip.t-dialin.net
1269870708 M * petzsch moin
1269870789 M * sleblanc Does this can cause problems ?
1269870803 M * Bertl sleblanc: that's fine, but not really related to the 'upstart requires console' issue you are seeing
1269870832 M * Bertl i.e. the ttyX.conf parts are 'additional' ttys upstart would handle
1269870849 M * Bertl (i.e. in addition to the console, which usually is /dev/console)
1269870986 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr
1269870995 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1269871127 P * thierryp ciao folks
1269871215 M * sleblanc I'll try with stanzas that don't require /dev/console.
1269871577 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1269871984 M * sleblanc When i comment the line "console output" in my hello stanzas, it works well.
1269872147 M * lownoize Bertl: thank you very much, now it is working 
1269872245 M * fLoo ok people i know its not welcome to post links here but : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfamTmY5REw <-- this is definitly worth beeing posted here :)
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1269872637 M * petzsch fLoo: awesome
1269872918 M * fLoo ya sooooo cool
1269872925 M * fLoo i am whining cause i am laughin all the time here
1269872938 M * fLoo its the really best video i've seen on youtube
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1269874048 J * jpic ~jpic@chocolatpistache.com
1269874265 J * vserver ~root@sentinel.avocent.com
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1269875267 J * sdff ~root@sentinel.avocent.com
1269875279 N * sdff FoxHu
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1269875714 M * fLoo ok lol
1269875720 M * fLoo petzsch : sorry to post one more but lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn8AI1UZ9vY
1269876014 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
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1269889283 N * petzsch1 petzsch
1269892496 J * ichavero_ ~ichavero@148.229.1.11
1269892582 Q * ichavero_ 
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1269894340 J * fruitwerks ~fruitwerk@cpe-24-242-35-65.hot.res.rr.com
1269894346 M * fruitwerks nice
1269894543 M * fruitwerks I have some serious issues regarding networking and hostnames
1269894587 M * Bertl how so?
1269894611 M * fruitwerks I can login to the host at .202 and the only guest at .203 and they have the same hostname
1269894613 M * petzsch since when are issues nice?
1269894629 M * fruitwerks I can set hostname, but it doesn't stick
1269894650 M * fback fruitwerks: you've upgraded the kernel, but not the utils?
1269894668 M * fruitwerks no this is all new install
1269894723 M * fruitwerks biggest issue is that I can't even start apache in the guest and tell it to bind to the vhost ip
1269894754 M * Bertl kernel and util-vserver version?
1269894775 M * fruitwerks  2.6.32-vs2.3.0.36.28-gentoo
1269894792 M * fruitwerks 0.30.215-r3
1269894831 M * fback fruitwerks: your utils are too old
1269894850 M * fruitwerks too old? haha ok let me see what is in the repo
1269895006 M * fruitwerks I hope this is the problem lol
1269895051 M * fruitwerks what version should I use with that kernel?
1269895065 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:470:e056:1:223:54ff:fe89:b207
1269895068 M * Bertl yes, kernels after 2.6.24 do not work correctly with the 2+ year old util-vserver
1269895082 M * Bertl take one of the more recent 0.30.216-preXXXX versions
1269895110 M * fruitwerks funny that is the stable version in the repo.. will ~0.30.216_pre2864 do?
1269895130 M * Bertl should do, you need to restart the guest
1269895197 M * fruitwerks now lets assume that is kosher, networking...
1269895228 M * fruitwerks can I run more than 1 vserver on the same IP and still run say.. apache on port 80 for all of them?
1269895246 M * fruitwerks well, public IP and use nat?
1269895259 M * petzsch use local ips for your vservers and set up a not routing on the host
1269895262 M * petzsch should be doable
1269895310 J * ichavero_ ~ichavero@148.229.1.11
1269895313 M * fruitwerks I found a how-to, but it was not so well for my distro
1269895321 M * fback fruitwerks: you need some means to distinguish traffic to different vservers
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1269895342 M * fruitwerks everything will be name / domain based if that is what you mean
1269895354 Q * ichavero_ 
1269895358 M * fback unless you want to forward different ports to local:80 vservers
1269895401 M * fback but if not, you want some reversed-cache that forwards the traffic based on http/1.1 Host: headers
1269895411 M * Bertl fruitwerks: name based hosting (e.g. with apache) requires something to connect and distribute the requests
1269895438 M * Bertl fruitwerks: i.e. it is not known until the connection was made, which 'name' will be used to retrieve the data)
1269895496 M * fruitwerks weh have domains, dns management, the works I just don't want to run an ip per vserver if iptables can allow me to login to serverb and serverc on the same ip :)
1269895556 M * fback fruitwerks: iptables knows nothing about domains, just ip addresses
1269895569 M * Bertl that is no problem, as long as the destination can somehow be derived from the protocol/port
1269895622 M * Bertl but as I said, you'll need some (re)director to handle destinations selected within a tcp connection (by some protocol like e.g. http)
1269895689 M * fback fruitwerks: for apache (http) you can use squid (surprise!) as this redirector
1269895742 M * petzsch as reverse proxy
1269895744 M * fruitwerks yeah apache, and ssh, I can do something different for ftp probably
1269895747 M * Bertl or a separate apache or tinyhttp or whatever
1269895776 M * Bertl ssh will require a different port at least (given that you use the same IP)
1269895792 M * Bertl http and ftp will require a proxy
1269895820 M * Bertl (well, you could as well use different ports there, but that is probably just confusing)
1269896070 Q * fruitwerks Quit: ®êÐÊmþtÍðÑ §Ç®Íþt V1.1
1269896420 M * petzsch is it just me or does his Quit message look broken?
1269896487 M * Bertl it looks strange :)
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1269896844 J * fruitwerks ~fruitwerk@cpe-24-242-35-65.hot.res.rr.com
1269896879 M * fruitwerks wow what an ordeal.. tried to join another channel that you get kickbanned from, my script and my bounce both try to rejoin
1269897133 M * fruitwerks ok so I have apache workig on both the host and a guest listening on the right IP
1269897156 M * Marillion fruitwerks: a kich has a reason, its not for a joke, that's why a ban
1269897166 M * Marillion kick *even*
1269897198 M * petzsch imho you wan't as fee services as possible on a vserver host for security reasons
1269897221 M * petzsch should there be a security hole in your host's apache, all your guests are in danger
1269897225 M * petzsch just my $0,02
1269897245 M * fruitwerks yeah it's like a perma-closed channel :/
1269897856 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@d045093.adsl.hansenet.de
1269898279 M * fruitwerks hmm
1269898882 M * fruitwerks man I cannot get apache or webmin running on the host and a guest at the same time :/
1269898920 M * petzsch make sure the services on the host only bind to the host's ip (probably allready know that)
1269898932 M * petzsch heading off for bed, have a good night everyone
1269898965 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving.
1269899036 M * fruitwerks yeah
1269899068 M * fruitwerks ok I have other issues too.. for some reason too many things appear to be shared with the host :/
1269899280 M * Bertl like what for example?
1269899534 M * fruitwerks like if I login to the guest or the host, the hostname is the same
1269899545 M * fruitwerks but if I cat /etc/hostname, it is correct
1269899587 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1269899619 Q * BenG 
1269899686 M * fruitwerks if I tell apache to bind to the vserver addy, it says it is in use when it is not
1269899697 M * Bertl kernel/patch and util-vserver version?
1269899720 M * Bertl and do you try to bind the _same_ IP/port on the guest as on the host?
1269899738 M * fruitwerks 0.30.216_pre2864 and 2.6.32-vs2.3.0.36.28-gentoo
1269899763 M * fruitwerks no, the host has an ip, and the guest has an ip, both are public
1269899782 M * Bertl okay, and on the host, you've somehow restricted sshd?
1269899817 M * fruitwerks mmm.. I can ssh into both by ip and hostname and I can verify with ifconfig, and it is correct
1269899849 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#When_I_try_to_ssh_to_the_guest.2C_I_log_into_the_host.2C_even_if_I_installed_sshd_on_the_guest._What.27s_wrong_here.3F
1269899860 M * fruitwerks oh the hostname / prompt issue resolved after a reboot :) 
1269899884 M * fruitwerks oh yeah I have ssh listening only on the given ip
1269899887 M * Bertl okay, so you updated util-vserver and didn't restart the guests, I presume
1269899916 M * fruitwerks I update the util's and rebooted the physical server
1269900016 M * fruitwerks like right now apache is started in the guest, and I can't start it on the host, if I change it to bind to the vserver addy and restart apaches I get .. (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 174.123.47.203:80
1269900023 Q * jrklein Remote host closed the connection
1269900029 M * fruitwerks when in fact, that is the only copy of apache running
1269900121 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:539b:b97d:df43
1269900151 M * Bertl you need to restrict services you run on the host to host IPs
1269900158 M * Bertl please read the url I pasted
1269900226 M * fruitwerks I did.. and I did that before I even found that page when I had another issue... nothing at all is runnig on :80 - but if I tell apache to un on that vservers dedicated ip only, it says it is in use
1269900275 M * Bertl sure, your guest is running apache on that port
1269900305 M * Bertl or the other way round, if you start apache on the host first, and it isn't restricted, then the host is listening
1269900425 M * fruitwerks I understand all that... I think there is another issue though.. gonna get some food and doubecheck everything and come back
1269900440 M * Bertl okay
1269900492 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-59-154.iusacell.net
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1269901739 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-59-154.iusacell.net
1269902213 Q * imcsk8 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1269902336 M * fruitwerks well, if the host and the guest only know about their own unique public IP, how can it say something is binding to the other?
1269902502 M * Hollow Bertl: pong
1269902511 M * Hollow very late pong ;)
1269902524 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@evdomip-59-154.iusacell.net
1269902551 M * Hollow Bertl: ah, just some gentoo question already answered
1269902827 M * Bertl yeah, thanks!
1269902844 M * Bertl fruitwerks: the host has _all_ IPs
1269902870 M * Bertl i.e. there is no such thing as a 'guest only' IP in Linux-VServer 
1269903055 M * fruitwerks ok, well if I stop apache on the guest, then tell the apache on the server to only run no the 'server' ip , I can't start apache on the guest, and vice versa
1269903076 M * Bertl restrict the host apache to host only IPs
1269903098 M * Bertl the guest will be restricted to the guest IP(s) by Linux-VServer 
1269903123 M * Bertl i.e. to the IP(s) you assigned to the guest
1269903296 M * fruitwerks I only gave the host one ip on eth0... and they are all restricted, I don't get it
1269903409 M * Bertl on the host, with the guest started, do:
1269903413 M * Bertl 'ip a ls'
1269903610 M * fruitwerks shows the second physical nic we are not using, loopback and eth1
1269903624 M * Bertl and what IPs?
1269903673 M * fruitwerks ahh
1269903686 M * Bertl now you understand, I guess :)
1269903740 M * Bertl as I mentioned a few times, by default, Linux-VServer uses IP isolation, not virtual network stacks
1269903769 M * Bertl i.e. a subset of IPs from the host are assigned to a guest, which then is allowed to bind to them
1269903893 M * fruitwerks still doesn't explain why I can only run one apache when I bind to the proper ip
1269903900 M * fruitwerks or webmin for that matter
1269903919 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1269903923 M * Bertl if you actually bind to the proper IP, it will work
1269903941 M * Bertl check with 'lsof -ni' that this is actually true
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