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1268181379 M * AnnaBanz http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268181379.jpg do my boobs look small? 
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1268181884 M * AnnaBanz http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268181884.jpg do my boobs look small? 
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1268186550 M * Chlorek which cap allows to see on the iface addresses added inside guest?
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1268189780 M * daniel_hozac Chlorek: what?
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1268197290 M * Sarahzz http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268197290.jpg do my boobs look small? 
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1268209925 Q * Chlorek synthon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net
1268209925 Q * speed47 synthon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net
1268209925 Q * nou synthon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net
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1268209970 J * speed47 ~speed@2001:41d0:1:98a7:babe:cafe:c0ca:1
1268209970 J * nou Chaton@2001:6f8:328:bbc:6666:6667::
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1268213736 J * bXi bluepunk@irssi.co.uk
1268214519 M * urbee hoi
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1268216062 J * NeedHelp ~user@zejn.si
1268216065 M * NeedHelp Hi!
1268216082 M * NeedHelp one question.... Does vserver need the KVM kernel module?
1268216092 J * Sarahzz ~Sarahzz@63.223.127.150
1268216092 M * Sarahzz http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268216092.jpg do my boobs look small? 
1268216094 P * Sarahzz 
1268216125 M * NeedHelp I would like to use VirtualBox also on the host machine, but i have to disable the KVM module to do so... Will vserver run without that module?
1268216318 M * NeedHelp anyone?
1268216407 M * ghislain vserver does not use kvm
1268216437 M * ghislain so disbling it should no change anything
1268216544 M * NeedHelp thank you very much
1268216544 M * NeedHelp !
1268216560 M * theocrit1 No you don't need KVM, but with the last kernel you don't need to disable the KVM module to use over virtualization extentions
1268216577 M * theocrit1 http://zat.im/KVM-2.6.33
1268216704 M * NeedHelp i am still at 2.6.22 :)
1268216730 M * NeedHelp its a production server, so the max downtime is limited
1268216731 M * theocrit1 http://zat.im/KVM-commit-VOD
1268216771 M * theocrit1 Yes of course it is. But in the future, this will probably help.
1268216787 M * NeedHelp thank you! i apriciate it
1268217129 M * bXi whats the preferred way of backing up vservrs?
1268217165 M * bXi i'm about to migrate my gentoo server to ubuntu
1268217455 M * speed47 bXi: tired of emerging world ? :) when I want to backup my vservers, I usually just backs up everything in each vserver root dir (usually /var/lib/vservers/*), and the whole /etc/vservers tree. the only important thing is that your vservers must be *stopped* while you're doing this
1268217499 M * speed47 if you need a low downtime, you can rsync /var/lib/vservers while they're running, then stop them, and run the rsync again, it'll just transfer the modified files, hopefully a few ones. now, that's how I do. but i'm not a vserver guru, maybe there's a better option someone here can give you
1268217607 M * bXi speed47: basicly yeah this server has been a pain in the arse for 3 years now :p
1268217713 M * bXi downtime is not much of an issue
1268217720 M * bXi the main server cant be down for long tho
1268217793 M * speed47 okay :) well, then don't even bother with the rsync !
1268219847 M * arekm do we have anyone with .33+vs now?
1268219983 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1268219990 M * Bertl morning folks!
1268220022 M * Bertl arekm: I'm pretty sure there is, but I guess not hanging around here atm :)
1268220098 M * Bertl bXi: rsync (proper options), tar (proper options), filesystem level dump, snapshot ...
1268220122 M * bXi morning Bertl 
1268220134 M * bXi what would be the proper options for tar?
1268220277 M * Bertl you definitely want --numeric-owner and --preserve
1268220324 M * Bertl also note that you cannot backup xattrs with tar, so you either have to dump them (if you need to preserve them) or recreate them after restoration
1268220350 M * bXi does a very basic vserver have xattrs?
1268220356 M * bXi as in creating a vserver then just using it
1268220456 M * bXi tar jcvfps --numeric-owner vservers.tar.bz2 /vservers would be good?
1268220531 M * bXi --preserve does the same as -p -s according to the docs
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1268220687 M * Bertl usually a guest won't have an Linux-VServer specific attributes set if not unified
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1268221838 M * bXi hmm
1268221849 M * bXi CONFIG_AUFS has been disabled .. is this a problem?
1268221905 M * Bertl disabled by whom?
1268221955 M * bXi i'm reading this in the ubuntu secion on the wiki
1268221960 M * bXi http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Ubuntu
1268222120 M * bXi i'm not sure what this will mean for me
1268222260 M * Bertl well, I'd say, it means that the folks doing the kernel have not patched aufs
1268222352 M * bXi ah it seems that i wont be using that 
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1268230067 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
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1268243545 M * geb Bertl, do you know the stage of the uml arch ?
1268243590 M * geb tryed to install vserver on a debian 2.6.32, i got a few errors
1268243634 M * Bertl interesting, what kind of errors?
1268243646 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1268243989 M * geb give me a minute :)
1268244051 M * geb http://paste.linux-vserver.org/14791
1268244083 M * geb with defconfig ARCH=um , and the debian kernel+patch (i'll try with a vanilla)
1268244167 M * geb as far i remember, no strange messages while applying the patch
1268244239 M * geb and , i didn't get the vserver entries in the menus, tryed to copy them from another .config, without better results
1268244405 M * Bertl strange .. will double check uml build
1268244481 M * geb if u like, some shell, help, test or whatever else, please let me know ( do you think a test with a vanilla kernel will be usefull ?)
1268244484 M * geb :)
1268244498 M * Bertl yes, please do that anyways
1268244587 M * geb 'k, i am a bit busy right now, will tell you in a few hours :)
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1268244980 M * Bertl np, thanks for the info
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1268247709 M * arekm hmm, in guest user had ip link set eth0 down; ip link set eth0 up and... he downed/upped whole eth0 interface!?
1268247803 M * Bertl unlikely, unless he got proper capabilities
1268247822 M * Bertl what kernel version?
1268247846 M * imcsk8  hello, i have a little problem with amd64 vservers, when i start the vserver everything looks fine but i have two problems:  when the vserver starts it changes the host's hostname and i get this error when i try to emerge a package: ReadOnlyFileSystem: makedirs('/usr/portage/packages/app-editors')  
1268247849 M * imcsk8  i think i've done something wrong but i'm not sure what, can somebody give me a hint? thanks
1268247852 M * arekm nevermind, that wasn't from guest, me blind
1268247894 M * Bertl imcsk8: get recent util-vserver not the 2+ years old 0.30.215 :)
1268248015 M * imcsk8 Bertl, i'll do that thanks!!
1268248021 M * Bertl np
1268248104 M * biz btw. what's the idea behind the weird util-vserver versioning scheme? :-)
1268248123 M * Bertl you have to ask daniel_hozac about that :)
1268248135 M * biz it stays for years at a minor version and bumps -preNNNN :D
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1268248540 M * geb Bertl, http://paste.linux-vserver.org/14792
1268248545 M * geb same problem with vanilla
1268249226 M * Bertl geb: yeah, I found it, give me minute to upload a patch
1268249408 J * ncopa ~ncopa@180.40.189.109.customer.cdi.no
1268249561 M * Bertl geb: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/ExperimentalT/delta-um-fix01.diff
1268249848 M * geb i am compiling it, thanks a lot for your time and very quick fix :)
1268249997 M * Bertl np, was just the missing Kconfig and tlb change
1268250012 M * Bertl obviously nobody tested/used uml since 2.6.26
1268250101 M * geb i used to play with qemu, when i need network isolation, but it is very very slow, uml seems far more usable :)
1268250264 M * Bertl did you consider testing/playing with network namespaces and Linux-VServer?
1268250350 M * geb in uml, or more generaly ?
1268250387 M * Bertl without uml :)
1268250410 M * geb erf sorry, i had to reread your question before understanding it completly :)
1268250432 M * geb no i didn't thought about that
1268250509 M * geb do you know if somebody else has tested ? what kind of things can be necessary ? (i've got a basic knowledge of util-vserver inner mechanism but not that much in kernel code)
1268250563 M * Bertl a bunch of folks said they would test, but I haven't got much feedback yet
1268250589 M * Bertl not sure how much support got into util-vserver, but I presume it is basic at most
1268250723 M * imcsk8 Bertl, my problem was the version of util-vserver thanks!!
1268250751 M * Bertl again, you're welcome!
1268250816 M * geb hum i'll try to have a look, and to check how difficult it can be (i guess that i'll have to bypass network isolation...) :)
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1268254765 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1268254781 M * BenG anyone running karmic as a guest OS here?
1268254789 M * BenG it doesn't want to do locales properly
1268254865 M * Bertl what's the problem?
1268254921 M * BenG perhaps the problem is me and Ubuntu, I don't really use it
1268254950 M * BenG doesn't seem to want to reconfigure the package properly, so that apt is still spewing out the message that it can't find the default locale
1268254969 M * BenG "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:" and so on
1268255057 M * BenG sorry, Bertl, it was me and Ubuntu, the locales I was looking for weren't in the package locales like they are on Debian
1268255073 M * BenG they are in language-pack-en-base
1268255107 M * Bertl good, so I consider that one resolved, yes? :)
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1268255152 M * BenG yep
1268255167 M * BenG :)
1268255190 M * BenG now I need to look through the mailing list about the upstart stuff...
1268255228 J * hijacker ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg
1268255250 M * BenG oh, found it all on the wiki, great!
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