1266797597 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1266797644 P * mugwump 1266801575 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1266801586 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1266801773 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1266807641 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180194146.adsl.alicedsl.de 1266808070 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266809159 J * UgLy_Work ~meh@staffnet.internode.com.au 1266809225 M * UgLy_Work has anyone had any issues with vserver 2.3 experimental and memory corruption? 1266809821 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1266809871 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266809920 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180195221.adsl.alicedsl.de 1266809954 M * Bushmills how many guest do you run? 1266810143 M * UgLy_Work 1 1266810152 M * UgLy_Work seeing it with squid 1266810162 M * UgLy_Work 2 kernel versions 1266810188 M * UgLy_Work squid runs happily for approx a week then starts rebooting every 2-5 hours, reboot the machine and it is all good again 1266810195 M * UgLy_Work squid always segfaults 1266810331 M * UgLy_Work always trying to access an incorrect memory address 1266810346 M * daniel_hozac and you're sure it's not a squid bug? 1266810358 M * daniel_hozac i.e. running it on the host works great? 1266810381 M * UgLy_Work been running it on a non vserver server for ages. 1266810402 M * UgLy_Work its not hardware as im seeing it across multiple servers 1266810418 M * UgLy_Work that and if it was squid a reboot shouldn't fix it. 1266810440 M * daniel_hozac uh, why not? 1266810453 M * UgLy_Work why would it? 1266810465 M * daniel_hozac there could be all sorts of state that gets reset. 1266810474 M * daniel_hozac same as in the kernel. 1266810487 M * daniel_hozac but really, we need versions to be able to say anything. 1266810504 M * UgLy_Work yes but if you remove everything squid like, cache folders etc to start squid form scratch it should do that. 1266810520 M * daniel_hozac IPC too? 1266810524 M * UgLy_Work i have tried clearing everything squid-like with no fix. 1266810541 M * UgLy_Work to the point i wiped a 1.6TB cache 1266810549 J * kjj ~kjj@pool-74-107-128-126.ptldor.fios.verizon.net 1266810581 M * UgLy_Work i've also upgraded from 2.6.28 to 2.6.32 which decreased the frequency and behavior of the crashes but it still does it 1266810609 M * daniel_hozac well, we don't touch the memory subsystem at all. 1266810622 M * UgLy_Work hmmm.. wonder what is going on then 1266810642 M * daniel_hozac so it works fine on the exact same vanilla kernel, with the same configuration? 1266810661 M * UgLy_Work yer it appears too 1266810672 M * daniel_hozac meaning what? 1266810691 M * UgLy_Work meaning i haven't got any crashes (yet) 1266810782 M * UgLy_Work im about to build a new environment just to eliminate everything I can but this is very wierd. 1266810945 M * UgLy_Work i figured i would ask to see if anyone else has had an issue 1266810950 M * UgLy_Work i guess that is a no 1266811274 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@c192019.adsl.hansenet.de 1266811682 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266811682 N * SauLus_ SauLus 1266811912 Q * UgLy_Work 1266812780 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266813047 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.59.215 1266814365 M * Bushmills i do run squid under vserver, but on the host, not in guest 1266814645 Q * micah Remote host closed the connection 1266814897 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1266817992 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266820231 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1266820516 Q * niki Quit: Leaving 1266820712 J * derjohn_mob aj@80.187.217.37 1266820978 J * balbir ~balbir@122.248.161.59 1266821191 J * tpo ~tpo@cable-dynamic-87-245-106-94.shinternet.ch 1266821436 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1266822527 J * ncopa ~ncopa@245.39.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1266823552 M * incd Good morning 1266824038 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1266824607 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-239-136.pools.arcor-ip.net 1266824883 M * incd baf. util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2880 doesn't like me 1266824963 M * incd vserver mail start -> "No command given; use '--help' for more information." http://www.pastebin.com/m4fd20007 1266826161 Q * tpo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266826788 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1266827921 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266828175 M * bobnormal is there any interaction between the freezer subsystem and memory control, ie: does the kernel notice and swap out memory from frozen tasks? 1266828436 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266828490 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-53-251.dclient.hispeed.ch 1266830109 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1266830727 J * Loki|muh ~loki@satanix.de 1266830992 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1266831424 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1266831487 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1266832241 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1266832596 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1266834015 Q * matthew-_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266834765 M * ghislain daniel_hozac: hello, what's new in pre 880 ? :) 1266834832 M * ghislain forget it just reading the changelog nothing really heavy it seems 1266835792 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266836513 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1266837043 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving 1266837061 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1266837575 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1266837582 Q * bobnormal Read error: Connection reset by peer 1266837588 M * Bertl morning folks! 1266838372 J * petzsch1 ~markus@dslb-092-078-239-136.pools.arcor-ip.net 1266838555 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1266839977 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1266840236 J * matthew-_ ~ms@ns2.wellquite.org 1266840872 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1266840997 M * ghislain morning bertl 1266842148 Q * rickytato Quit: rickytato 1266842489 J * bobnormal ~irc@87-194-32-179.bethere.co.uk 1266842911 Q * gnuk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266844167 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1266844644 J * Loki|muh ~loki@satanix.de 1266845132 J * balbir ~balbir@122.248.161.59 1266845230 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.144 1266845345 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-150-83.dclient.hispeed.ch 1266845942 Q * manana Quit: Terminated 1266845974 M * Mr_Smoke mo'in 1266845992 M * petzsch1 Mr_Smoke: moin 1266845997 M * Mr_Smoke Bertl: I heard (here) that 2.6.31 was "better" than 2.6.32 somehow... is that still valid ? 1266846002 M * Mr_Smoke hi there petzsch1 1266846042 N * petzsch1 petzsch 1266846052 A * petzsch is gonna kick is fritz!box 1266846895 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1266847998 M * Bertl Mr_Smoke: I tested 2.6.32 when it came out .1,.2,.3 and reverted my machines back to 2.6.31 because of instabilitty and performance issues (note: I tested without Linux-VServer first :) 1266848034 M * Mr_Smoke OH I see 1266848043 M * Mr_Smoke Makes sense to try 2.6.31 then 1266848055 M * petzsch guess it's hardware specific... no problems here 1266848058 M * Mr_Smoke I'm currently moving from 2.6.22 (with vs 2.2.0.7 and 2.3.0.34) 1266848062 M * Mr_Smoke Hm 1266848064 M * petzsch so you may wanna try it out for yourself 1266848077 M * Mr_Smoke true, that. 1266848559 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@245.72-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1266848898 M * biz Mr_Smoke: I'm currently doing the same migration. Running current 2.6.32.8 + vserver + grsec and it works fine so far 1266848909 M * biz You might want to have a look at http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_32#head-e07f19bb79beab04cb9e68b942c9041b490b71db 1266848918 M * Mr_Smoke biz: hey, same setup, I'm using grsec as well 1266848921 A * Mr_Smoke clicks 1266848922 M * biz (it really affected me...) 1266848939 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266848972 M * Mr_Smoke biz: so you're saying that setting this to 0 has improved your performance overall ? 1266849001 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1266849019 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1266849024 M * biz Mr_Smoke: well, at least on my busy ftp servers with software raid 1266849033 M * Mr_Smoke hm ok 1266849050 M * Mr_Smoke Whats the CPU/RAM like ? 1266849078 M * biz 16G, Intel Core i7 1266849108 M * biz but so far, I don't see any performance hit besides that changed CFQ scheduler default 1266849148 M * Mr_Smoke Ok 1266849160 M * Mr_Smoke Slightly smaller setup here, but duly noted 1266850268 M * Bertl I will probably retest with recent 2.6.32 soon, will report how that went :) 1266850796 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1266851520 M * ghislain that will be interesting knowing you kernel expertise :) 1266851571 J * Chlorek cokolwiek@c.sed.pl 1266851577 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266851830 M * ghislain for 2.6.33 phoronix put a wonderfull tool that take the kenrel source each day and run the very same test against the daily snapshot 1266851847 M * ghislain very cool stuff 1266851933 M * ghislain http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=kernel_tracker_one_month&num=1 for those who want to read 1266851975 M * ghislain and up to date data http://www.phoromatic.com/kernel-tracker.php 1266852606 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1266854400 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1266854434 J * dna ~dna@91.112.50.30 1266854527 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1266854536 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266855165 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.107.12 1266855781 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266855982 J * nou Chaton@2001:6f8:328:bbc:6666:6667:: 1266856639 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266856966 J * raanders ~raanders@hugin.cyber-office.net 1266857115 M * raanders Good Morning from the Pacific Northwest. I have a question on how to get the TARPIT (xtables-addons) compiled for Daniel's CentOS 5 kernel RPM. Am I close to on topic? 1266857198 M * daniel_hozac that sounds very on topic 1266857279 M * Bertl is tarpit a new hobby? 1266857396 M * raanders OK. I've got the tarball but when I try to ./configure it I get an error about the xtables package is missing. I'm assuming that means from the kernel. INSTALL document says "no vendor backports interfere". Hard to do with the Redhatian distributions. :-( 1266857437 M * raanders Bertl: I don't think so. 1266857476 M * Bertl just wondering, because, IIRC you are the second person within a week hitting that issue 1266857527 M * daniel_hozac well, CentOS 5 doesn't have the most recent versions of the userspace there. 1266857530 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1266857536 M * daniel_hozac you'll probably have to build the entire iptables suite yourself. 1266857536 M * raanders I think it was me on the list a week or so ago. Finally got back to it. 1266857770 M * raanders daniel_hozac: I see the iptables module on my system but no kernel module. My research/reading and the error I get when I try to use TARPIT indicates this is the issue. 1266857771 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1266857797 J * tpo ~tpo@cust.static.84-253-51-232.cybernet.ch 1266857901 M * raanders I'll pull the iptables src RPM and see if I see xtables in it. 1266858322 Q * tpo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266858888 N * ensc Guest177 1266858898 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1266858933 M * raanders No joy so far. So back to research/reading mode. Rod 1266858943 P * raanders 1266859015 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1266859254 Q * larsivi 1266859309 Q * Guest177 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266859451 M * bobnormal daniel_hozac: difference between 'vdir' and / in 'fstab' for a vserver config? 1266859477 M * daniel_hozac what? 1266859487 J * larsivi ~larsivi@47.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1266859511 M * bobnormal is the vdir auto-mounted as / 1266859521 M * bobnormal and if so what happens / is it possible to add somethind different to fstab 1266859550 M * bobnormal eg: if virtualising a system, does / need to be removed from their fstab entirely or will it be ignored 1266859607 J * tpo ~tpo@cust.static.84-253-51-232.cybernet.ch 1266859720 M * daniel_hozac the guest's fstab is never used for anything. 1266859728 M * daniel_hozac so you can just ignore it entirely 1266859777 M * Bushmills what happens when guest says "mount -a" ? 1266859793 M * Bushmills guest fstab still ignored? 1266859802 M * bobnormal well if its expecting eg: network mounts to be present, those obviously need to be migrated outside to the host _or_ the guest given SECURE_MOUNT .. right? 1266859811 M * daniel_hozac the guest can't mount things. 1266859828 M * daniel_hozac network mounts aren't generally granted by SECURE_MOUNT. 1266859832 M * bobnormal orr ahh .. BINARY_MOUNT process context flag ? 1266859846 M * daniel_hozac if you want your guest to have that ability. 1266859877 M * daniel_hozac note though that depending on the filesystem, that still might not be enough. 1266859889 M * bobnormal why is that? 1266859898 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.59.124 1266859903 M * daniel_hozac e.g. samba forks kernel threads for the mount. 1266859908 M * daniel_hozac so you would have to allow that too. 1266859920 M * daniel_hozac which is... not usually recommended. 1266859933 M * bobnormal good info, thanks. are you aware of any other filesystems with that requirement 1266859940 M * bobnormal does nfs have that requirement? 1266859991 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266860004 M * daniel_hozac NFS has a different set of requirements. 1266860010 M * bobnormal when you say samba, do you mean 'cifs' or the old 'smbfs' or both? 1266860021 M * daniel_hozac IIRC you have to run portmap on the host. 1266860031 M * bobnormal ok 1266860048 M * daniel_hozac is smbfs even still in the kernel? 1266860093 M * bobnormal last time i looked 1266860100 Q * niki_work Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266860102 M * bobnormal i guess you mean cifs then :) 1266860560 Q * barismetin Quit: Leaving... 1266860699 M * bobnormal max network interfaces = 8? 1266860969 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266861067 M * daniel_hozac what? 1266861087 M * bobnormal is there a limit to how many /etc/vservers//interfaces/ directories may exist? 1266861091 M * daniel_hozac no. 1266861103 M * bobnormal ok cool, read something the other day on wikipedia that was obviously wrong. :P 1266861110 M * bobnormal (or misremembered) 1266861112 M * bobnormal thanks :P 1266861383 Q * bobnormal Quit: back tomorrow 1266862069 J * dna_ ~dna@91.112.50.30 1266862228 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1266862285 Q * dna_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1266862299 J * dna_ ~dna@91.112.50.30 1266862477 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266862634 J * fzylogic ~fzylogic@dsl081-243-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1266863409 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1266864637 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266867026 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1266868194 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1266868411 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1266869855 Q * tpo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266870124 J * dna ~dna@91.112.50.30 1266870337 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1266870429 J * tpo ~tpo@cust.static.84-253-51-232.cybernet.ch 1266870526 Q * dna_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266870794 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@93.159.121.26 1266872737 Q * tpo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266873105 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1266873198 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11 1266874150 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c140145.adsl.hansenet.de 1266874284 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1266874289 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1266876779 M * harry g'night 1266878696 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1266880766 J * tpo ~tpo@cable-dynamic-87-245-106-94.shinternet.ch 1266881071 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1266882100 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-169-133.dclient.hispeed.ch 1266882278 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving.