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1265769713 M * Bushmills how would I take advantage of vservers copy on write links? say two guests want to install the same package - what do I need to do to have only one instance of those files residing on the hard disk?
1265769872 M * Bushmills googling for it seems to indicate that many people use a more handish manual hardlinking concept, mayb unknowingly working around the vserver COW links
1265769951 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_manage_a_multi-guest_setup_with_vhashify.3F
1265769961 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Vhashify
1265770026 M * Bushmills thanks,. Bertl
1265770027 M * Bertl basically you need to unify/hashify the guest, then CoW link breaking does the rest, every now and then you re-unify them to accomodate changes and individual updates
1265770081 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1265770091 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1265789173 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1265789179 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1265789257 J * niki_work ~niki@cpe.fe4-0-120.0x50a6de52.kdnxd4.customer.tele.dk
1265789271 M * niki_work morning Bertl :-)
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1265794219 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr
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1265795362 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-150-83.dclient.hispeed.ch
1265795880 J * bobnormal ~irc@87-194-32-179.bethere.co.uk
1265795887 M * bobnormal morning!
1265796185 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
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1265796770 M * ghislain moooorning
1265796837 M * bobnormal no flags are caps sensitive (bcaps, nflags, etc.), right?
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1265798922 M * bobnormal what happens if you set nflags but no ncontext?
1265798963 M * Bertl ncontext defaults to the process context if not set
1265798980 M * bobnormal thanks :)
1265799004 M * bobnormal oh and one more q .. if you have 2 vservers with the same process context and try to start them, will they run or not?
1265799010 M * bobnormal and what about network context?
1265799021 M * bobnormal (with differing process context)
1265799028 M * Bertl probably not, as util-vserver tries to create the context
1265799040 M * Bertl but it might work, should be simple to test
1265799050 M * bobnormal ok :)
1265799063 M * bobnormal i will document it when i find out!
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1265807815 M * ktwilight Bertl, i've gtg now, but have also just went through all the logs on what happened, what i can only find is this http://paste.linux-vserver.org/14236
1265807829 M * ktwilight will return later and debug it together, if needed.
1265807869 M * ktwilight http://paste.linux-vserver.org/14237 <- updated with the kernel version and util-vserver
1265807875 M * ktwilight bbl.
1265808011 M * Bertl that's completely normal ...
1265808417 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1265808422 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1265808601 M * ktwilight doh :)
1265808610 A * ktwilight wonders what went wrong then...
1265808624 J * tokkee tokkee@osprey.tokkee.org
1265808820 J * thierryp ~thierry@roc101s.vpn.inria.fr
1265808910 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1265808916 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-126-087.pools.arcor-ip.net
1265808922 Q * petzsch 
1265808926 M * BenG afternoon all
1265808942 M * BenG I'm trying to get cgroups scheduling to work straight from boot
1265808991 M * BenG anyone a clue how to make sure /dev/cgroup exist and is correctly mounted
1265808993 M * BenG ?
1265809028 M * BenG I can do it all manually, and hack it by playing with init scripts, but I'm looking for something like maybe a udev rule or such
1265809173 M * bobnormal beng: i guess udev documentation will help
1265809187 M * BenG you'd have thought so :)
1265809207 M * bobnormal beng: can you add it to the wiki when you find out? :)
1265809216 M * BenG sure
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1265809536 M * BenG bobnormal, udev docs came through!!
1265809560 M * BenG anything added in /lib/udev/devices/ will be copied to /dev/ at boot, so
1265809571 M * BenG mkdir /lib/udev/device/cgroup
1265809574 M * BenG does it
1265809584 M * BenG together with an fstab line of course
1265809590 M * BenG will wiki it later
1265809591 M * bobnormal beng: cool, add to wiki ;)
1265809603 M * bobnormal i havent looked at cgroups yet
1265809605 M * BenG fix my bike wheel first, then add to the wiki
1265809627 M * bobnormal i cycle a lot too, look up 'transfagaras' on wikipedia, i cycled that last year - v. fun :)
1265809693 M * BenG :)
1265809695 M * BenG laters
1265809716 M * BenG bobnormal, the debian docs on the wiki regarding cgroups are the ones I did
1265809724 M * BenG I'll revise in view of my new findings
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1265820191 M * ghislain beng: why not use ffstab ?
1265820222 M * ghislain beng: if you have trouble mounting cgroup at boot fstab seems the way to go to me
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1265820857 M * fLoo Bertl_oO u there ?
1265820877 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-53-251.dclient.hispeed.ch
1265820948 M * fLoo ok i've got a problam
1265820951 M * fLoo *em
1265820966 M * fLoo i've mounted a new device and moved all vservers onto it (/dev/sdb1)
1265820976 M * fLoo mounted it with xid support (-o tag)
1265820993 M * fLoo but after changing the xids for the vservers, space is still not shown correctly
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1265821415 J * fLoo fLoo@188.194.83.192
1265821422 M * fLoo re
1265821594 M * Bertl_oO wb, util-vserver/kernel/patch version?
1265821651 M * fLoo 2.6.31.12-vs2.3.0.36.28
1265821664 M * fLoo util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2864
1265821673 M * fLoo maybe its a kernelbug again, not sure
1265821685 M * fLoo or vserver patches are broken within 2.6.31.12
1265821703 M * Bertl_oO unlikely, xid tagging shows values?
1265821784 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1265821876 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11
1265821882 M * fLoo lemme check
1265821959 M * fLoo well yea
1265821972 M * fLoo the problem is, that i cant retag already existing files
1265821991 M * fLoo if i copy a new one into the host, its beein recognized and space increases accordingly
1265822029 M * Bertl_oO did you remove the accounting data from the guest config after shutting down the guest?
1265822036 M * fLoo nope
1265822065 M * Bertl_oO then do that, i.e. shut down the guest, remove the accounted space data, restart the guest
1265822076 M * fLoo ok
1265822085 M * Bertl_oO util-vserver will check the guest and correct the accounting (will take a little)
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1265822348 M * fLoo thanks worked
1265822349 M * fLoo :)
1265822982 M * Bertl_oO np
1265823390 M * Bushmills Bertl_oO: was it you mentioning that there is a proof of concept implementation for iptables, allowing guests to introduce their local rule set?
1265823443 A * Bushmills searches logs
1265823697 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-126-087.pools.arcor-ip.net
1265823717 P * petzsch 
1265823988 M * fLoo Bertl_oO : i deleted the .../cache/dlimits ..
1265823993 M * fLoo and it works like a charm now
1265823994 M * fLoo <3 ya
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1265829064 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-126-087.pools.arcor-ip.net
1265829863 M * Bertl_oO Bushmills: yep
1265829875 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1265829883 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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