1265155707 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1265156195 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1265158777 Q * DoberMann[PullA] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265158948 J * DoberMann[PullA] ~james@cap31-6-88-180-72-76.fbx.proxad.net 1265160828 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1265169106 Q * sladen Quit: Changing server 1265169355 J * sladen ~paul@starsky.19inch.net 1265169980 Q * eyck Read error: Connection reset by peer 1265170028 J * eyck ~eyck@77.79.198.60 1265170048 Q * ex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265170405 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1265175233 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265176845 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.105.151 1265177114 J * thierryp ~thierry@93-173-73-198.bb.netvision.net.il 1265177901 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265178225 Q * niki Quit: Leaving 1265178613 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.107.3 1265179478 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1265181892 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265183631 Q * padde Remote host closed the connection 1265183717 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net 1265183810 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1265184776 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@158.92-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1265185068 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265185488 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1265185629 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1265185851 J * bzed_ ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1265186025 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@chello084115149052.4.graz.surfer.at 1265186068 Q * bzed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265186072 N * bzed_ bzed 1265186145 J * ncopa ~ncopa@245.39.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1265186177 J * niki ~niki@cpe.fe4-0-120.0x50a6de52.kdnxd4.customer.tele.dk 1265186218 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1265187277 J * ffrank ~ffrank@e179156074.adsl.alicedsl.de 1265187514 M * ffrank hi. i somehow managed to make one of my vservers broken whenever /etc/vservers/phpapp/apps/init/runlevel exists and contains a number 1265187549 M * ffrank neither vserver phpapp start nor stop work, but they will once the runlevel file is unlinked 1265187626 M * ffrank originally, it had that file, but for testing purposes i deleted it temporarily. or, as it looks now, permanently :- 1265188634 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1265189345 Q * ffrank Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265189637 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1265191030 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1265191170 J * ncopa ~ncopa@245.39.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1265191211 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1265192649 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1265193958 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-147-093.pools.arcor-ip.net 1265194012 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265195659 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1265197310 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.55.150 1265199669 J * ^Willie^ ~kvirc@53575CA4.cable.casema.nl 1265202141 J * dna ~dna@p548F0AB0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1265204493 J * thierryp ~thierry@roc182s.vpn.inria.fr 1265205037 M * ncopa hi 1265205057 M * ncopa I'm making a *minimal* distro for linux-vserver hosts 1265205071 M * ncopa its alpine linux based 1265205081 M * ncopa i wonder what packages are we interested to have there? 1265205105 M * ncopa in addition to base system and util-vserver i was thinking of: 1265205138 M * ncopa openntpd, openssh, e2fsprogs, xfsprogs, mdadm, iscsi 1265205143 M * ncopa shorewall 1265205157 M * ncopa hum 1265205162 M * ncopa maybe i should write to the mailing list 1265205174 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1265205263 M * petzsch why do you think you need util-vserver in the guest image? :) 1265205292 J * pammap34 rd-43-88@rd.ists.pl 1265205387 M * ncopa no no 1265205391 M * ncopa its not a gues image 1265205402 M * ncopa its for vserver host 1265205428 M * ncopa i have a script that sets up a new alpine linux vserver withing 20 seconds 1265205550 M * pammap34 d 1265205554 M * pammap34 [ 1265205560 Q * pammap34 Quit: TinyIRC 1.1 1265205799 M * petzsch from my user-perspective: it would be nice to have a quick running demo to see how linux-vserver works, without spending hours configuring and patchings kernels... so maybe a premade distribution would ease the start a little ;) 1265205848 Q * MooingLemur Server closed connection 1265205851 J * MooingLemur ~troy@shells195.pinchaser.com 1265205945 M * ghislain some of us on the mailing list offer pre made kernels and utils packages for debian 32/64 bits perhaps you should have alook at the archive 1265205961 M * ghislain i speak for the 2.3 series 1265206047 M * petzsch must have overseen that, but my own kernel is close enough to doing what i would it expect to do :-D 1265206107 M * ncopa petzsch: alpine-vserver will let you download a small (50-100MB?) that you can either run live or install 1265206216 M * petzsch i don't know how the linux-vserver.org people think about it, but i think it would be great to find premade images in the download section of the wiki (extra point: contributions?) 1265207247 M * ghislain this is a good idea 1265207402 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1265207803 M * bornormal yep 1265207808 M * bornormal like vmware images 1265207817 M * bornormal also i think it would be cool if the config was a bit more .. err .. centralised 1265207823 M * bornormal rather than fstab etc. all being split up 1265207830 M * bornormal i know it makes it easier/more unix like 1265207838 M * bornormal however there is a degree of convenience in a single config file 1265207856 M * ncopa i think the benefit is that you can easily modify a whole unch of vservers in one shot 1265207860 M * bornormal anyway no biggy 1265207865 M * bornormal true 1265207872 M * ncopa if you have have 100+ vservers 1265207875 M * bornormal actually you've convinced me 1265207877 M * bornormal forget that idea ;) 1265207915 M * bornormal what about kernel features required by an image 1265207933 M * bornormal i suppose some images will need certain kernel versions at a minimum and/or options enabled 1265207949 M * bornormal that type of compatibility may be hard to spec if images are distributed 1265208169 M * petzsch stick to what the distribtuions gives you and add useful defaults for linux-vserver ... if anyone needs special tweaking then he/she should compile his/her own kernel 1265208353 M * _Shiva_ hehe - and then put the Image on http://boot.kernel.org/ to gPXE-boot that via Internet ;-) 1265208466 M * bornormal i love pxe 1265208486 M * bornormal so nice when it works, just a pity its hard to use anything but NFS with it 1265208561 M * _Shiva_ just add some prerequisites like there has to be an LVM2 LV reachable at /dev/mapper/VG-vservers and another at /dev/mapper/VG-etc_vservers that will automagicaly be mounted under /vservers and /etc/vservers ant the Image will start your servers on boot 1265208660 M * _Shiva_ while already using PXE, your IP configuration for the host is already there and everything else for the guests is persistent through your own /etc/vservers/.. 1265208773 M * _Shiva_ bornormal: ever tried to switch using iSCSI rather tahn NFS..? 1265208901 M * bornormal _shiva_: nope. 1265209097 J * tolkor ~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu 1265210063 Q * fosco Quit: leaving 1265211169 Q * quasisane Remote host closed the connection 1265211499 J * fosco ~fosco@marx.wirefull.org 1265212183 J * hijacker__ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1265212183 Q * hijacker_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1265212205 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1265212214 M * Bertl morning folks! 1265212379 M * hijacker__ evening Bertl 1265212588 M * petzsch good afternoon bertl :-) 1265213038 M * tolkor howdy howdy 1265213243 Q * niki Quit: Leaving 1265213350 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1265214380 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1265215190 Q * karasz Server closed connection 1265215193 J * karasz ~karasz@shell.opensde.net 1265216412 Q * geos_one Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100129051549] 1265216584 Q * evilhackerdude Server closed connection 1265216586 J * evilhackerdude ~stephan@78.46.203.42 1265216719 M * petzsch @Bertl did you get my pm this morning? 1265216888 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1265217319 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1265217560 M * Bertl yep, tx! 1265217582 M * petzsch i was wondering: even smt is disabled, i still see 8 virtual cores 1265217593 M * petzsch that can't be right 1265218168 M * Bertl well, it's only the scheduler you disabled, so the kernel now thinks there are 8 independant cores 1265218192 M * Bertl if you want to disable HT completely, you have to do that in the BIOS 1265218244 M * petzsch found an howto how to disable single cpu's... i'll try that: http://oss.gonicus.de/openpower/index.php/SMT 1265218430 M * Bertl well, yes and no, I guess that will successfully disable the HT sibling, but not HT itself, although I haven't checked that yet 1265218649 M * petzsch smt-enabled=off didn't show any effect, guess that's what i allready done when disabling it staticly in the kernel 1265218662 M * petzsch i don't have hardware access to the machine, so no bios changes 1265218811 M * Bertl no problem there, with SMT scheduling disabled, the kernel scheduler should see it as 8 cpus 1265218886 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1265219183 M * petzsch just disabled cpu1,cpu2,cpu3,cpu4 ... leaving me one cpu per core ... let's see if i get my 50% ;-) 1265219357 Q * _nono_ Quit: Leaving 1265219838 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1265220175 Q * barismetin Quit: Leaving... 1265220298 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1265220327 Q * bornormal Remote host closed the connection 1265220757 J * fzylogic ~fzylogic@dsl081-243-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1265220860 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11 1265221329 M * fzylogic Bertl: found a cosmetic bug in the freeswap calculation in your cgroup patch 1265221377 M * fzylogic even if memsw_limit == res_limit, a guest can still have pages swapped out 1265221396 M * fzylogic which results in things like: Swap: 0 8 17592186044407 1265221592 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c135091.adsl.hansenet.de 1265221875 M * Bertl ah, okay, so we need to 'clamp' that to sane values 1265221926 M * fzylogic yep 1265222122 M * Bertl do you still have the debug printks in place? 1265222161 M * fzylogic not on this particular kernel, no 1265222173 M * fzylogic removed them from the live one 1265222296 M * Bertl okay, np 1265222336 M * Bertl will prepare something to test tonight, if that's fine for you? 1265222348 M * fzylogic yeah, that'll work 1265223161 Q * fosco Quit: leaving 1265223794 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1265224516 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1265225322 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1265225355 M * petzsch that could make 19 '' Housing afordable *g* http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/LackRack 1265226080 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@chello084115149052.4.graz.surfer.at 1265226509 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-75-67-251-206.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1265226598 Q * geos_one Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100129051549] 1265231036 J * larsivi ~larsivi@47.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1265232726 J * hijacker ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1265232730 Q * mcp Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net 1265233061 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1265233089 M * yang petzsch: yes, nice :) saw that pic once before, but without the description :) 1265233608 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1265233615 Q * kolorafa Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net 1265233642 J * kolorafa ~kolorafa@irc.kolorafa.dlk.pl 1265233792 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection 1265233796 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1265234208 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1265236691 M * fzylogic Bertl: one more cosmetic bug I'm not sure how to fix 1265236714 M * fzylogic since cgroups are counting _all_ memory as in use (even cached, buffered, etc), free is misleading 1265236734 M * fzylogic memory.stat contains all the necessary info, but I don't know how to pull it out for free to use 1265236840 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1265237050 M * fzylogic maybe for now I can just pull mem_cgroup_local_usage? 1265237355 M * Bertl I'll have a look, atm, I have a nap attack ... :) 1265237359 M * fzylogic k 1265237364 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1265237369 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1265237593 Q * quasisane Quit: leaving 1265237650 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-75-67-251-206.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1265238236 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1265240889 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving.