1264723246 M * Bertl I'd guess yes if the yum is installed properly and the centos5 distro description exists and is valid
1264723325 J * PowerKe ~tom@94-224-78-36.access.telenet.be
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1264723525 M * mathx hmm i guess I have to find the dist url to put into err whatever file/defaults that vserver build uses
1264723531 M * mathx they're Seagate 7200.10
1264723545 M * mathx (saw your request page while hunting for centos info)
1264723665 M * Bertl so SATA II disks I presume ... well, I would definitely take a bunch of those for free, but not for raid setups, more for standalone machines which still use PATA disks
1264726004 P * SubZero 
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1264731015 M * mathx Bertl: yeah :)
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1264741942 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1264741947 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1264744373 M * mathx grr, centos is detecting that the host server is x86_64 in an i386 image.
1264744373 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45
1264744397 M * daniel_hozac did you set the personality to linux32?
1264744399 M * mathx anyone know a way around that - to allow centos 32bit to work on 64 bit host?
1264744410 M * mathx i guess not! this stuff JUST WORKS MAGICALLY in debian
1264744412 M * mathx heh
1264744424 M * daniel_hozac no, actually, it doesn't.
1264744433 M * daniel_hozac all your applications still think it's x86_64.
1264744449 M * mathx well i should be more specific. YUM thinks its x86_64.
1264744454 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1264744461 M * daniel_hozac and everything else.
1264744480 M * mathx so to be fair: "debian's package manager thinks its i386 when its an i386 image on an x86_64 host. centos's thinks its x86_64 in an i386 image on an x86_64 host."
1264744494 M * mathx i agreetho, that yes, automake for eg on debian still thinks its x86_64
1264744496 M * daniel_hozac when not configured correctly, yeah.
1264744498 M * mathx but that doenst mess up apt-get install
1264744523 M * mathx guess i need to hardcode this into yum somewhere.
1264744544 M * daniel_hozac no.
1264744554 M * daniel_hozac just echo linux32 > /etc/vservers/<guest>/personality
1264744582 M * mathx ah. hmm never had to do that for i386 debian guests so far, but i spose people arent compiling alot on them
1264744774 M * mathx daniel_hozac: thanks :)
1264745091 M * mathx my GOD this is a minimal install of CentOS i've found
1264745092 M * mathx [root@zepto /]# passwd
1264745092 M * mathx bash: passwd: command not found
1264745127 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1264745133 M * daniel_hozac only crucial packages are installed.
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1264747088 M * Wonka even openwrt micro has passwd, and that fits into 2mb of flash, including kernel
1264747143 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c145231.adsl.hansenet.de
1264747159 M * daniel_hozac busybox doesn't count.
1264747167 M * daniel_hozac and there, passwd is required.
1264747172 M * Wonka ;)
1264747175 M * daniel_hozac on a guest, why would you need a password?
1264747192 M * Wonka to ssh in...
1264747198 M * daniel_hozac ssh keys...
1264747207 M * Wonka why would you need init?
1264747213 M * daniel_hozac you don't.
1264747291 M * Wonka for a web server, the httpd, its required libs and a ro mount for thhe data is enough ;)
1264747298 M * daniel_hozac exactly.
1264747308 M * mathx minimalists.
1264747316 M * daniel_hozac that is the philosophy of the base CentOS install.
1264747328 M * Wonka no need for a shell or sshd
1264747332 M * mathx not that minimal, i see all this ldap
1264747371 M * daniel_hozac those are dependencies.
1264747373 M * Wonka mathx: what isnt there can neither break nor get abused
1264747421 M * Wonka instant security win
1264747498 M * mathx cept clients' dumb php code sql injection holes
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1264759836 M * incd Soo
1264759850 M * incd Any idea why vserver-stat freezes the whole system?
1264761003 M * ktwilight_ incd, version?
1264761008 M * ktwilight_ kernel?
1264761026 M * Mr_Smoke ENOCRYSTALLBALL
1264761552 M * incd :P
1264761570 M * incd Kernel: 2.6.31-vs2.3.0.36.23-gentoo
1264761583 M * incd util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2864; Jan 18 2010, 08:35:31
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1264761646 M * incd Its not fun to coldboot the computer via ILOM web interface :p
1264762191 M * incd Any help?
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1264765663 M * arekm ptrace(PEEKDATA) failed: Input/output error (5) - is some vserver flag needed for this?
1264766142 M * incd When using "ifconfig" in a container, I get these errors: http://dpaste.com/152013/
1264766146 M * incd "SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied
1264766147 M * incd "
1264767818 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1264767823 M * Bertl morning folks!
1264767839 M * Bertl incd: kernel/patch/util-vserver version?
1264768325 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-117-128.pools.arcor-ip.net
1264768345 M * petzsch hi
1264768414 M * petzsch i'm currently facing some problems with the debian squeeze (testing) linux-vserver distribution... sched_hard settings seem to be ignored even with the cflag set. can anyone confirm this?
1264768469 M * Bertl I guess that is okay, the TB extensions have been replaced by a CFS hard scheduling extension
1264768521 M * petzsch is that the Cgroups feature talked about in the wiki?
1264768529 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Cgroups
1264768532 M * Bertl correct
1264768587 M * petzsch is there any other refference availble to how this works? the wiki seems kind of work-in-progress on that topic
1264768630 M * Bertl yes, the source code :)
1264768649 M * petzsch evil deepth of horror ;-)
1264768687 M * Bertl check the part labeled "... _replaces sched_hard" on that page, it should be accurate and easy to understand
1264768737 M * Bertl but no need to mess with the cgroups yourself, util-vserver does that for you, see 'flower page' for details
1264768795 M * petzsch i've search on the openVCP page for support on this, looks like they haven't implemented anything of that... so i'll have to adjust vservers manually after first setting them up
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1264768834 M * petzsch hopefully they'll adopt soon
1264768843 M * petzsch thx for the hints
1264768847 M * petzsch i guess it will help :)
1264768858 M * Bertl "they'll" being?
1264768952 M * petzsch well the webinterface let's you say "use XX % of the CPU time" and that is automagically turned in to sched_hard paramters, but I haven't found an option to have that done for Cgroups... but i guess that is the wrong channel for this topic ;)
1264769000 M * Bertl ah, so 'they' refers to the folks working on the web interface then
1264769042 M * petzsch that's what i meant :)
1264769042 M * petzsch my german is bad, but my english is badder :-D
1264769107 M * Bertl np
1264769139 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: btw, could we do some kind of 'mapping' for the hard scheduler settings too or would that be too complicated?
1264769288 M * petzsch mind if i add this to the "Applying CPU Limits" wiki page: sched_hard settings for the time beeing are ignored on vserver2.3 systems!
1264769301 M * petzsch for some reason the note in it's current state made me believe both where supported
1264769590 M * Bertl well, that would be incorrect, as all vs2.3 versions before 2.6.24 use the sched_hard settings
1264769621 M * Bertl and the cgroup feature is relatively new, so only works on recent kernels
1264769819 M * petzsch i'd love to use the stable patch against my 2.6.32 debian kernel, but couldn't find a version patchable against that source version and the 2.6.22.19 kernel doesn't have support for the intel sata controller on my server. so i guess i've no choice than beeing an early adopter :) at least debian putting that version into testing, suggests that it works somewhat stable :)
1264769924 M * Bertl well, there is no 'stable' version for anything after 2.6.22.x (yet), but yes, the current experimental patches are quite useable
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1264779111 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-100-146.customers.d1-online.com
1264781960 M * derjohn_mob Bertl, who maintains the vsever mailing-list-server?
1264782493 J * fleischergesell ~fleischer@dslb-088-077-192-109.pools.arcor-ip.net
1264782838 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.48.10
1264783462 M * _Shiva_ derjohn_mob: Hollow does
1264783515 M * derjohn_mob _Shiva_, ok 
1264783621 M * derjohn_mob Hollow, did you check the TLS-Support in the mailserver-setup that runs the vserver ML? I had to disable TLS for the mailserver in order go get mails though. The 4xx error says, the private key is not available .
1264783654 M * Bertl derjohn_mob: should be fixed by now, did you test it?
1264783715 M * derjohn_mob Bertl, no I did report it some days ago but did not hear anyrhing (or: I am not always on and dont have a bouncer ;))
1264783728 M * derjohn_mob If anyone did anything then it might be OK now
1264783765 M * derjohn_mob Bertl, besides that:  devel 2.3.0.36.26 <--- time for a new subject line ?
1264784379 F * ChanServ +o Bertl
1264784386 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, exp 2.3.0.36.28, grsec 2.3.0.36.28|util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2864| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute.
1264784397 M * Bertl better?
1264784911 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-15-234.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr
1264784931 M * derjohn_mob much better! 
1264784943 M * derjohn_mob :)
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