1264638408 N * SubZero Guest4 1264638409 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl 1264638561 Q * SubZero 1264638769 Q * Guest4 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264639411 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1264640316 Q * urbee Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264640376 J * urbee ~urbee@93-103-199-233.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net 1264640529 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1264640545 Q * fzylogic Quit: fzylogic 1264643806 Q * agaffney Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264643837 J * agaffney ~agaffney@71-81-81-131.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1264644057 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1264647628 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180192165.adsl.alicedsl.de 1264647728 Q * sladen Quit: leaving 1264647751 J * sladen ~paul@starsky.19inch.net 1264648057 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264649653 J * aj__ ~aj@e180194001.adsl.alicedsl.de 1264649859 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264650278 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264650298 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1264650307 M * Bertl morning folks! ... well, kind of :) 1264651991 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:7e79:b4d8:690 1264653687 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.111.94 1264654564 J * aj__ aj@80.187.148.126 1264656450 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264660601 M * Bertl off to bed again ... bbl 1264660606 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1264660643 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264660662 Q * Snow-Man Read error: Operation timed out 1264660697 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@tamriel.snowman.net 1264662803 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1264663128 Q * ex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264664213 J * aj__ ~aj@213.238.45.2 1264664904 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.150.253 1264665499 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1264665499 Q * ktwilight__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264665601 M * neofutur hi all 1264665614 M * neofutur is it possible to have a local firewall in a guest ? seems not 1264665638 M * neofutur sem 1264665676 M * daniel_hozac no 1264665688 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@51.183-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1264665692 M * daniel_hozac you can however relay the commands to the host 1264665699 M * daniel_hozac letting the guest configure its own firewall that way. 1264666151 M * incd vserver XXX start -> http://dpaste.com/151508/ 1264666154 M * incd Any idea? :/ 1264666199 M * daniel_hozac you're not using the right baselayout 1264666314 M * incd Ah, ok. :) 1264666354 M * incd How to find out the right one? 1264666674 Q * pmjdebruijn Quit: leaving 1264666697 J * pmjdebruijn pascal@jester.pcode.nl 1264667597 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1264668378 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1264668877 J * pho ~pho@a88-112-195-149.elisa-laajakaista.fi 1264669055 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264669088 Q * ktwilight__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264669510 Q * niki Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264669889 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.58.86 1264670093 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11 1264670401 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264671298 N * zbyniu_ zbyniu 1264671334 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.56.247 1264671434 N * Swen_offline Swen 1264671917 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1264672291 M * Swen Hi all! I have a question about cgroups with vserver 1264672338 M * Swen is it normal that when you start the vserver guest, vserver XXXX start automatically creates entries in /dev/cgroup 1264672343 M * Swen ? 1264672388 M * Swen and that these entries are all 3 levels deep? ie: /dev/cgroup/71086/71210/71210/ 1264672474 M * Swen oh...and I have not explicitely configured any CGroups 1264672489 M * Swen ...apart from mounting it 1264672656 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264672759 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1264673112 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1264673282 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-209-233-97.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net 1264673291 P * friendly 1264673472 J * jakob ~jakob@87-104-144-183-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk 1264673485 M * jakob I have a question about homeDirectory 1264673486 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.56.252 1264673556 M * jakob typically you would have a homeDirectory that reflects the users uid, but I cannot use special characters in the homeDirectory 1264673568 M * jakob is there a way around this limitation? 1264673603 M * Mr_Smoke How special ? 1264673644 M * jakob etc. æøå 1264673647 M * jakob danish 1264673671 M * jakob probably also german 1264673675 M * Mr_Smoke These are allowed in the username ? 1264673681 M * jakob yes 1264673697 M * Mr_Smoke But not as filename ? 1264673714 M * jakob yes as filename too - all modern OS's except windows use unicode charactersets on the filesystem today with the exception of Windows 1264673723 M * jakob then again I said OS's ;-) 1264673755 M * Mr_Smoke So, when you're talking about the HomeDirectory, you don't mean /home/ , 1264673758 M * Mr_Smoke , 1264673797 M * jakob yes I am talking about the required attribute homeDirectory 1264673798 M * Mr_Smoke ? 1264673815 M * Mr_Smoke "required attribute" ? 1264673826 M * jakob posixAccount 1264673834 M * jakob objectclass: posixAccount 1264673837 M * Mr_Smoke Ok 1264673873 M * Mr_Smoke So .... where is it that you can't create that ? I'm a bit lost here 1264673886 M * jakob ok :-) 1264673906 M * jakob I can't use æøå in homeDirectory attribute from posixAccount 1264673951 M * Mr_Smoke Ooooooh LDAP 1264673984 M * jakob shit! 1264673985 M * Mr_Smoke This about Windows AD ? 1264673988 M * jakob sorry! 1264673989 M * jakob :-D 1264674003 M * jakob I'm in the wrong channel 1264674043 M * Mr_Smoke Heheh 1264674048 M * Mr_Smoke Now it all fits :) 1264674052 M * jakob yeah ;-) 1264674433 J * SauLus ~SauLus@d003061.adsl.hansenet.de 1264674468 Q * SauLus 1264674520 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1264674522 J * SauLus ~SauLus@d003061.adsl.hansenet.de 1264675675 J * yarihm ~yarihm@office-zrh.youngsolutions.ch 1264676434 J * ktwilight ~keliew@51.183-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1264677121 J * dna ~dna@170-198-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1264678560 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264678830 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1264679843 Q * jakob Remote host closed the connection 1264681745 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1264682416 Q * pho Quit: Leaving... 1264683369 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@51.183-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1264684563 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl 1264684933 Q * zbyniu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264686204 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1264687023 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1264687775 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1264689002 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1264689446 Q * SubZero Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264690552 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl 1264691658 J * ncopa ~ncopa@245.39.189.109.customer.cdi.no 1264691879 J * lownoize ~lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de 1264691898 J * fleischergesell ~fleischer@dslb-088-077-197-149.pools.arcor-ip.net 1264691985 M * fleischergesell hey there - got a weird problem while upgrading a debian sid guest - libuuid1 (2.16.2-0) seems to cause problems while upgrading - only get this during apt-get upgrade process: Segmentation fault, useradd: user 'libuuid' already exists 1264692000 M * fleischergesell cannot delete this user either, only gives more segmentation faults 1264692276 M * lownoize hi 1264692312 M * lownoize has anybody a working etc/rc.d/rc to get suse 10.3 runing as vserver guest? 1264692552 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1264692556 M * Bertl morning folks! 1264692587 M * Bertl fleischergesell: kernel/patch/util-vserver version? 1264692608 M * Bertl lownoize: what's the problem there? 1264692700 M * lownoize Bertl: i have used rsync like i did with many debian/ubuntu/slackware systems before to move a physical server to a vserver guest 1264692750 M * Bertl okay, rsync with what options? 1264692833 M * fleischergesell Bertl: kernel is 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64, util-server is 0.30.216~r2772-6 1264692854 M * lownoize rsync -aPvze ssh --stats --numeric-ids --exclude=sys/ --exclude=proc/ --exclude=dev/ and recreated /proc and /sys and all devices under dev afterwards 1264692913 Q * Swen Remote host closed the connection 1264693028 M * Bertl fleischergesell: well, those are the known-broken debian kernels ... I'd first try with a newer one ... 1264693071 M * fleischergesell mh okay, never had those kind of problems so far 1264693139 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1264693166 M * fleischergesell debian stable wont offer me any other kernel :/ 1264693250 M * Bertl well, then you have to talk to the debian folks (it's debian kernel and guest after all) check with micah 1264693315 M * fleischergesell okay, thanks 1264693362 M * Bertl lownoize: yeah, that rsync should be fine, what exactly fails on startup? IIRC, suse did require some environment settings and didn't return 0 on success or so 1264693507 M * lownoize /etc/rc.d/rc: line 47: /proc/cmdline: No such file or directory and stty: standard input: Inappropriate ioctl for device 1264693562 M * Bertl well, that is simple, either fake that file (containing the kernel boot line) or remove such lines from rc 1264693594 M * Bertl faking can be done via a bind mount (file to /proc/cmdline) in the guest configs fstab 1264693630 M * Bertl the stty part probably needs to be removed, unless you want to dedicate a real tty to the guest 1264693814 M * lownoize humm treid that before and forgot one line ;) 1264693824 M * lownoize now it works, thank you very much 1264693829 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1264694458 Q * SubZero 1264695795 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl 1264696396 Q * jrklein Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264698347 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1264698497 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1264701146 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1264701224 Q * barismetin Quit: Leaving... 1264702867 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264702869 J * Ekushey ~russell@119.30.34.14 1264702872 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1264702908 P * Ekushey 1264702941 J * ubuntero ~russell@119.30.34.14 1264703215 M * ubuntero hi guys, I'm new with vserver and I'm experiencing a problem. after entering a virtual server, I can't access internet from there (no outgoing traffic, for example I can't ping a site) 1264703240 M * ubuntero any clue what's wrong? 1264703309 M * daniel_hozac did you setup /etc/resolv.conf? 1264703372 M * ubuntero on the host or on the guest? 1264703377 M * daniel_hozac the guest 1264703389 M * ubuntero no! 1264703442 M * ubuntero so I need to enter the virtual server to do it? or I need to do it from the host? 1264703462 M * daniel_hozac either way. 1264703490 M * ubuntero alright, let me check, will be back in a moment :) 1264703602 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: starting with what version of util-vserver the memory cgroup support should be working? 1264703640 M * daniel_hozac there's no specific memory cgroup support, there's just cgroup support. it's in 0.30.216 1264703660 J * hijacker ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1264703692 M * Bertl oh, do we have a 0.30.216 release? 1264703698 M * daniel_hozac no :) 1264703718 M * Bertl okay, so what prerelease version does support it 1264703740 M * ubuntero daniel_hozac, I've added the nameserver entries on resolve.conf from guest, now what do I do? still can't ping 1264703751 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: I'm asking because I'm going to rip out the rss/vm limits in the next few days 1264703767 M * Bertl ubuntero: does the guest have a public IP? 1264703804 M * ubuntero yes it does 1264703810 M * Bertl ubuntero: check with 'ping -I ' on the host that your routing works then 1264703852 M * ubuntero is virtual server name? 1264703872 M * Bertl guest-ip is the guest ip, and target is whatever you are trying to ping 1264703882 M * ubuntero oh ok thanks 1264703897 M * Bertl you check that on the host 1264703903 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: 2828 1264703965 M * Bertl okay great! that's roughly a year out, right? 1264703988 M * Bertl so we shouldn't have any problem with recent setups there 1264703991 M * ubuntero Bertl yes I can ping from the host 1264704031 M * Bertl ubuntero: then the ping from inside the guest should work too (if the one above works, that is) 1264704084 M * ubuntero just tried again, it's not working 1264704096 M * Bertl but I'd suggest to try with an IP for not a name 1264704106 M * Bertl (as a name requires name resolving too) 1264704178 M * ubuntero ah! pinging using IP worked! 1264704214 M * Bertl so then your resolver config is broken, inside the guest 1264704244 M * Bertl i.e. check /etc/resolv.conf inside the guest (and maybe /etc/nsswitch.conf) 1264704247 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264704277 M * ubuntero resolve.conf on guest looks OK, is there anything else I need to do? (I'm using debian) 1264704283 M * daniel_hozac it's resolv.conf. 1264704284 M * daniel_hozac no e. 1264704307 M * ubuntero sorry, no e, right 1264704324 M * ubuntero I meant /etc/resolve.conf 1264704326 M * ubuntero oops 1264704332 M * ubuntero ... /etc/resolv.conf 1264704548 M * ubuntero just checked, both /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf on the host and guest are the same 1264704584 M * Bertl then try, e.g. host www.google.com 1264704739 M * ubuntero nope doesn't work, but pinging www.google.com's IP address works 1264704761 M * Bertl see, so resolving doesn't work inside your guest, for whatever reason 1264704777 M * Bertl (well, the reason being that it isn't configured correctly :) 1264704806 M * ubuntero this is newly installed, I haven't changed anything much 1264704820 M * daniel_hozac probably not enough. 1264704843 M * daniel_hozac so diff -u {,/vservers/}/etc/resolv.conf on the host returns nothing? 1264704844 M * ubuntero can you please give me suggestions on what can be done? 1264704859 M * ubuntero let me check 1264704862 M * Bertl install strace inside the guest (probably from outside as you have no networking) and run 'strace -fF host www.google.com' 1264704877 M * Bertl upload the output, and we'll have a look 1264704909 M * ubuntero bash: strace: command not found :| 1264704926 M * Bertl that's why I said _install_ 1264704935 M * ubuntero let me install it 1264705505 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-53-251.dclient.hispeed.ch 1264705653 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1264705938 M * ubuntero Bertl, apt-get or wget isn't working inside guest (can't resolve) so I installed strace on the host 1264706027 M * ubuntero what do I need to do now to make strace work inside the guest now? 1264706292 M * Bertl as I said, you need to get the package (.deb) on the host, and copy it into the guest, then install it there with dpkg 1264706377 M * ubuntero good idea, thanks 1264706588 J * C14r ~C14r@mail.cipworx.de 1264706887 M * ubuntero Bertl, isn't it /vservers// where I'll copy the file? 1264706977 M * ubuntero I guess not... 1264707221 M * Bertl on all distros but debian it is 1264707236 M * Bertl on debian, they moved it to /var/lib/vservers IIRC 1264707239 M * ubuntero well, I copied the deb file to /vservers//tmp/ but after entering the vserver I don't see the file inside /tmp 1264707256 M * Bertl /tmp inside a guest is a tmpfs 1264707283 M * Bertl i.e. you moved it 'under' that mounted filesystem (that's why you do not see it) 1264707296 M * ubuntero no /var/lib/vservers doesn't exist 1264707326 M * Bertl that's a good sign that you are not using the default debian util-vserver 1264707346 M * Bertl (which probably simplifies things a lot :) 1264707355 M * ubuntero :) 1264707450 M * ubuntero so how do I copy it now? 1264707491 M * ubuntero I create a test file inside guest, and using find command from host can't find it 1264707522 M * Bertl again in /tmp? 1264707581 M * Bertl /tmp (by default) inside a guest is a virtual (tmpfs) filesystem only visible inside the guest, so no chance to find anything you put there on the host 1264707592 M * ubuntero ah, got it now 1264707599 M * Bertl put the .deb in /vservers//root/ 1264707609 M * ubuntero very sorry Bertl, I didn't understand that at first 1264707612 M * Bertl it will show up inside the guest under /root 1264707658 M * fleischergesell how can i limit a guest to one cpu core? 1264707695 M * Bertl by using cpu sets 1264707708 M * Bertl (or cpu affinity on guest startup) 1264707790 M * fleischergesell can i set the affinity in one of the guests config files? if yes, which one would that be? 1264707851 M * Bertl not that I'd know, daniel_hozac? 1264707904 M * daniel_hozac affinity won't keep processes in the guest from changing it. 1264707909 M * daniel_hozac they won't be able to change the cpuset though. 1264707913 Q * PowerKe Quit: Maintenance 1264707937 M * daniel_hozac and no, i don't believe you can set the affinity in the utils. 1264707978 M * fleischergesell ah okay, so cpu sets is my friend here 1264708029 M * ubuntero Bertl, strace got installed inside guest, but "strace -fF host www.google.com" returns "strace: host: command not found" 1264708064 M * ubuntero worked from host though 1264708100 M * blathijs ubuntero: Try ping instead of host, apparently you don't have the host tool in the guest 1264708100 M * Bertl well, you might be missing that one too, but use ping instead 1264708129 M * ubuntero ok 1264708187 M * fleischergesell is there any documentation on how to setup these cpusets? 1264708507 M * Bertl nap attack .. bbl 1264708511 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1264711121 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@chello084115149052.4.graz.surfer.at 1264714226 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1264714230 M * Bertl back now ... 1264714248 M * Bertl ubuntero: any strace yet? 1264714269 M * ubuntero wb Bertl 1264714283 M * ubuntero good to see you agin 1264714298 M * ubuntero brb in 5 minutes :) 1264714364 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1264714682 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1264715122 M * ubuntero Bertl, here is the output: http://pastebin.org/83748 1264715188 M * ubuntero very cryptic ;) 1264715392 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-171-55.dclient.hispeed.ch 1264715399 M * Bertl 10.0.80.11 and 12, which seem to be your nameservers for the host, do not answer to requests from your guest IP 1264715441 M * Bertl was the guest IP assigned to you by your network administrator? 1264715452 M * ubuntero yes they are my nameservers 1264715473 M * ubuntero network admin 1264715518 M * ubuntero but how come they are working from the host but not the guest? 1264715604 M * Bertl could you provide the host and guest IP including the netmask? 1264715655 M * ubuntero yeah I can try that :) 1264715770 M * ubuntero oh btw, I've two NICs on this machine 1264716816 J * mcl ~Miranda@66-78-101-4.access.ripnet.com 1264716894 M * ubuntero Bertl did you get my notice? 1264717014 M * Bertl hmm, note really, try a private msg 1264717373 M * ubuntero did you get my PM? 1264717385 M * ubuntero ok you did :) 1264717390 M * blathijs :-) 1264717626 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1264717632 M * mcl Hi folks - I'm new to vserver and trying to get a handle on setting up guest OSs (using gentoo for the host and guest). I can follow the basic instructions in the docs to get a working vserver, but I'd like to understand more on what it is doing (for example - it appears to automatically mount my /usr/portage directory from the host in the guest). Is there anywhere I can find more information on the vserver-build scripts? 1264717787 M * daniel_hozac they are per distribution. 1264717793 M * daniel_hozac so not much docs on it. 1264717809 M * daniel_hozac except /usr/lib*/util-vserver/distributions/gentoo/initpost 1264717842 M * mcl Thanks daniel_hozac. I'm looking through that file now... 1264718209 M * mcl Found it - it's in the initpre... it's not that I dislike the functionality - I just like knowing what happens when I start up the vserver. :) 1264718496 Q * mcl 1264718805 M * ubuntero thanks a million Bertl for helping out :) 1264718810 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d004177.adsl.hansenet.de 1264718813 M * ubuntero you are very helpful 1264718876 M * Bertl so, the solution was to use the proper nameservers for the public IP in the guest, instead of the private nameservers the host uses :) 1264718920 M * ubuntero yes right :) 1264718932 M * ubuntero I'm so happy it worked out 1264719108 M * ubuntero bye everyone! 1264719117 Q * ubuntero Quit: Konversation terminated! 1264719694 Q * fleischergesell Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264720215 Q * nkukard Quit: Leaving 1264720629 J * Medivh ck@dolphin.serverbox.de 1264722392 J * ghislain1 ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1264722502 J * ken_ ~math@sizone.org 1264722513 A * ken_ looks for bertl. 1264722516 N * ken_ mathx 1264722534 A * mathx has like 10 250gb drives for bertl, probably useless tho 1264722624 Q * ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264722634 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1264722765 M * Bertl mathx what drives? 1264722772 M * mathx heh sun 250Gb drives! 1264722791 M * mathx "fill the slot so i can buy the server without you complaining and give me the caddy, then go to the store and buy 2TB drives." drives 1264722812 M * mathx they wont let you buy a server without at least 1 drive. 1264722823 M * mathx maybe that changed today tho: you see this? ---> http://sun.com 1264722857 M * mathx the drive caddies are like 70% of the price of a 500GB drive 1264722941 M * Bertl okay? 1264722955 M * mathx haha. might not be worth the cost of shipping tho. so small :( 1264722975 M * mathx if i get a drive with 1 error tho ill send it to you. (I rotate drives at first soft error!) 1264722989 M * mathx ive already got 6TB at home, cant really use anymore rotated drives lol 1264723060 M * Bertl so, just to clarify, somebody (you?) is buying sun drives with enclosues to get the enclosures? 1264723082 M * Bertl and then replaces the disks with larger ones, I presume? 1264723091 M * mathx yeah. sunacle are bastards 1264723107 M * Bertl resulting in a bunch of small sized disks, yes? 1264723108 M * mathx (oracle replaced the whole sun website today. its.... odd.) 1264723111 M * mathx yeah. :( 1264723116 M * mathx if you have free power its great! 1264723126 M * Bertl okay, and those disks are what type exaclty? 1264723128 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1264723139 M * mathx Seagate 250GB sun err... 1264723163 M * Bertl do you have one at hand, maybe with a product number or so? 1264723166 A * mathx has had too much beer to go to the basement server room/lab and look :) 1264723178 M * mathx ok ok heh ill look! sec. 1264723181 M * mathx answer this: vserver vserver2 build -m yum --context 42 \ --hostname vserver2.mydomain.com \ --interface eth0:192.168.1.11/24 -- -d centos5 1264723182 M * Bertl okay, np, let's check that tomorrow then, when you're sober 1264723194 M * mathx ^^ -d centos5 is that going to work in a standard debian dist?