1264380707 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1264380711 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1264381426 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1264381435 J * neofutur ~neofutur@xena.ww7.be 1264384429 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1264385651 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-171-55.dclient.hispeed.ch 1264388433 J * aj__ ~aj@e180193071.adsl.alicedsl.de 1264388872 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264390588 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180193160.adsl.alicedsl.de 1264390661 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264391603 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:4011:b4d8:690 1264391991 J * bzed_ ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1264392024 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@d003064.adsl.hansenet.de 1264392108 Q * bzed_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264392167 J * bzed_ ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1264392352 Q * bzed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264392379 Q * bzed_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264392380 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1264392435 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 483 seconds 1264392435 N * SauLus_ SauLus 1264392839 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264395325 Q * derjohn_foo Remote host closed the connection 1264395543 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180193160.adsl.alicedsl.de 1264395580 J * balbir ~balbir@122.172.149.71 1264396938 Q * eyck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264396973 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264398183 Q * niki Quit: Leaving 1264399029 J * eyck ~eyck@77.79.198.67 1264399287 J * derjohn_mob aj@88.128.93.143 1264401468 Q * zbyniu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264401883 Q * AndrewLee Remote host closed the connection 1264403283 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1264405621 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1264406036 J * niki ~niki@cpe.fe4-0-120.0x50a6de52.kdnxd4.customer.tele.dk 1264406036 Q * ktwilight_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264406117 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@7.7-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1264406711 J * swen ~quassel@217.72.66.253 1264407742 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1264407757 Q * barismetin 1264407977 Q * wibble_ Remote host closed the connection 1264408642 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1264408755 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1264409388 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1264410255 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1264410343 M * derjohn_mob Bertl_zZ, daniel_hozac : Who maintains the Vserver Mailing List? I think the TLS support is broken since years. I disabled TLS in my Mailserver and now the mails go through. 1264411734 J * dna ~dna@170-198-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1264411898 Q * jrklein Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264412227 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264412307 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1264412742 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1264413318 J * yarihm ~yarihm@adsl-89-217-157-220.adslplus.ch 1264414662 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-209-233-97.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net 1264416003 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1264416329 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1264416591 J * BWare ~itsme@ip-80-113-1-198.ip.prioritytelecom.net 1264416701 M * jpic_ hi, any idea what's the problem with this file? http://dpaste.com/150143/ 1264416736 M * jpic_ i'm trying why python, even as root, can't open it 1264416759 M * jpic_ nvm 1264417140 J * zbyniu_ ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1264417143 Q * zbyniu_ 1264417584 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1264417665 Q * BenG 1264417733 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1264419194 Q * mugwump Quit: on Holiday :D 1264419281 M * urbee fLoo 1264419299 M * urbee does the new openvcp include any statistics for the guest user 1264419305 M * urbee to see the ram/cpu usage 1264419307 M * urbee or something 1264419996 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1264420246 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection 1264420524 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl 1264423238 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264423350 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1264426149 Q * SauLus Quit: ... the proxy is gone 1264426613 J * SauLus ~SauLus@d003064.adsl.hansenet.de 1264427902 Q * SubZero 1264428650 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1264428650 Q * hijacker Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264429106 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl 1264431144 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-171-55.dclient.hispeed.ch 1264431258 Q * niki Quit: Leaving 1264431606 Q * swen Remote host closed the connection 1264432606 Q * sladen Server closed connection 1264432613 J * sladen ~paul@starsky.19inch.net 1264432954 Q * ensc Server closed connection 1264432964 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.160.26 1264433762 Q * groente Server closed connection 1264433791 J * groente ~groente@shell.puscii.nl 1264434091 Q * BWare Quit: *p00f* 1264434143 J * Loki_muh ~loki@satanix.de 1264434364 Q * fosco Server closed connection 1264434365 J * fosco fosco@91.208.40.1 1264434454 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264434454 N * Loki_muh Loki|muh 1264434488 Q * mnemoc Server closed connection 1264434489 J * mnemoc ~amery@shell.opensde.net 1264434603 Q * SubZero Read error: Operation timed out 1264434798 Q * C14r Server closed connection 1264434802 J * C14r ~C14r@mail.cipworx.de 1264435170 Q * arekm Server closed connection 1264435172 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org 1264435364 Q * Radiance Server closed connection 1264435379 J * Radiance ~Radiance@193.16.154.187 1264435785 J * Loki_muh ~loki@satanix.de 1264435793 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264435795 N * Loki_muh Loki|muh 1264435797 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection 1264435805 J * padde_ ~padde@patrick-nagel.net 1264435806 Q * padde Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264435810 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1264435828 N * padde_ padde 1264435992 Q * _Shiva__ Remote host closed the connection 1264435994 J * _Shiva_ shiva@whatcha.looking.at 1264436088 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl 1264436682 Q * _are_ Server closed connection 1264436693 J * _are_ ~quassel@h1417489.stratoserver.net 1264436801 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw 1264436830 M * ktwilight_ the experimental patches table is growing, should some be removed? eg 2.6.30.6, 2.6.29.x, and 2.6.28.10? 1264436837 Q * AndrewLee 1264436848 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1264436868 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1264436882 M * ktwilight_ could the patch for 2.6.27.x be updated? so the site displays the latest stable for .27 1264436908 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw 1264436918 M * ktwilight_ not to say that 2.3.0.36.8 patch doesn't work - it works, but the site should have the latest stable available patch IMHO 1264436982 Q * incidence Server closed connection 1264436983 J * incidence ~jussi@82-128-246-217-Rajakyla-TR1.suomi.net 1264437038 Q * Sirenia Server closed connection 1264437080 J * Sirenia ~sirenia@93.186.164.51 1264437103 M * ktwilight_ under Downloads, the current version of util-vserver is quite outdated. just to gain some visibility, should i add a new row that includes the latest pre-releases? 1264437420 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1264437923 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1264438064 Q * DelTree Server closed connection 1264438076 J * DelTree ~deplagne@goldorak3.eric.deplagne.name 1264438486 J * pmenier ~pme@LLagny-156-36-29-11.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr 1264438957 J * pme_ ~pme@LLagny-156-36-29-11.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr 1264439003 Q * pme_ 1264439153 Q * pmenier Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264439278 Q * BobR Server closed connection 1264439279 J * BobR odie@IRC.13thfloor.at 1264439863 Q * SubZero 1264439895 M * urbee hoi 1264439907 M * urbee any ideas how to set uname -a value 1264439912 M * urbee i need to change something :) 1264439941 M * daniel_hozac see /etc/vservers//uts/* 1264439949 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1264439957 M * Bertl morning folks! 1264439987 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1264440001 M * Bertl ktwilight_: there is no stable patch for 2.6.22+ 1264440015 M * ktwilight_ i know. 1264440051 M * Bertl so what are you suggesting? 1264440128 M * ktwilight_ am thinking along the lines of keeping good kernels in the experimental patch table. so .27 and .32 ones, but not excluding the grsecurity patches 1264440164 M * ktwilight_ so 2.6.30.6, 2.29.6, 2.6.28.10 can go? 1264440202 M * ktwilight_ am just being picky on having a smaller table, that's all :) 1264440347 M * Bertl well, not sure that .32 is a 'good' kernel, I tried it on two of my systems, and reverted to 2.6.31 because of vast regressions and instability 1264440366 M * Bertl (in the mainline kernel, that is) 1264440388 M * ktwilight_ hmmm, well, whichever. am just looking for a way to trim it down with a set of 'loose requirements' to keep the table neat 1264440447 M * Bertl we are talking about the auto generated table on the main page, yes? 1264440485 M * ktwilight_ yes 1264440519 J * pmenier ~pme@LLagny-156-36-29-11.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr 1264440539 M * Bertl which, for whatever reason hasn't been updated automatically .. Hollow ping? 1264440798 M * fback Bertl: script seems to work, btw ;) 1264441028 M * Bertl good to know, thx for testing 1264441086 M * fback np 1264441749 J * larsivi ~larsivi@47.80-202-217.nextgentel.com 1264441782 Q * pmenier Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264442318 Q * barismetin Quit: Leaving... 1264443981 J * fzylogic ~fzylogic@dsl081-243-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1264444066 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1264444066 Q * gnuk Read error: Connection reset by peer 1264444199 M * fzylogic Bertl: get my message on Friday about when the locking bug was introduced? 1264444271 M * Bertl yep, but I didn't understand it completely 1264444361 M * fzylogic bug was introduced somewhere between 2.6.28.10 and 2.6.29.6 1264444422 M * fzylogic although 2.6.28.10 was semi-broken as well, although not in a "crash the host" sort of way 1264444583 M * Bertl hmm, which means? 1264444642 M * fzylogic something either in the upstream change or the vserver patch diff must've broken it 1264444655 M * fzylogic but I'm about at the end of my skillset here :) 1264444660 M * urbee Bertl: i need to change the uname -a output - for some reason when i'm installing directadmin control panel it thinks this is a 64bit os and screws up the install 1264444678 M * urbee even though it should be a 32bit guest vserver 1264444697 M * urbee ... vservers -- -d lenny -m http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian -- --arch i386 1264444702 M * Bertl did you set the personality on the guest? 1264444710 M * urbee personality? whats that 1264444730 M * urbee i'm wondering how this even happened now, i've never had this problems before 1264444731 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1264444742 M * Bertl search for 'personality' 1264444747 M * urbee and i've installed directadmin for like 100times 1264444766 M * Bertl well, maybe it was on a 32bit system, maybe they changed the tests or whatever 1264444802 M * urbee i always use 64bit OS and then 32/64bit guests 1264444809 M * urbee with ia32 emulation in kernel.. 1264444821 M * urbee and its the same damn server configuration as on other servers i got :) 1264444868 M * Bertl then it must be a difference in directadmin, no? 1264444920 M * urbee yea probably, the guy there in support told me i need to change the output of uname -a 1264444925 M * urbee cuz directadmin checks there for it 1264444944 M * urbee Linux sasa.si-shell.net 2.6.31-vs2.3.0.36.23-gentoo #1 SMP Tue Nov 24 06:31:33 CET 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux 1264444953 Q * matthew-1 Server closed connection 1264444956 M * Bertl well, setting the personality to a 32bit one will do that for you 1264444964 J * matthew-_ ~ms@ns2.wellquite.org 1264444969 M * Bertl of course, you can also modify the uts fields directly 1264444980 M * urbee i should be editing what, /usr/include/linux/personality.h 1264444980 M * urbee ? 1264444992 M * Bertl nah, that's what you should be reading :) 1264445012 M * urbee and edit stuff in /etc/vservers/... 1264445020 M * Bertl you edit /etc/vservers//personality 1264445023 M * urbee yea 1264445053 M * urbee PER_LINUX_32BIT 1264445056 M * urbee adding something like thaT? 1264445061 M * Bertl yep 1264445097 J * kbad ~kyle@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com 1264445113 M * urbee didnt seem to change anything :) 1264445122 M * Bertl did you restart the guest? 1264445149 A * _Shiva_ is having: linux_32bit in /etc/vservers//personality and i686 in /etc/vservers//uts/machine 1264445149 M * urbee yes 1264445167 M * urbee _Shiva_ thanks for the hint :p 1264445210 M * _Shiva_ urbee: does that solve your problem? ;-) 1264445250 M * urbee well, i'll gotta recompile the stuff to se 1264445252 M * urbee i hope! 1264445285 M * urbee thanks to both of ya anyway :) 1264445306 M * urbee god damn directadmin m$)##!(kerz 1264445328 M * urbee it takes like 2 days to get an answer from support and even then u cant expect much :) 1264445403 M * _Shiva_ at least the _do_ offer some support ;-) 1264445411 M * _Shiva_ they.. 1264445499 M * urbee i'm leasing like 20 licenses so they better! :p 1264446231 M * urbee it seems to work 1264446233 M * urbee great ;) 1264446251 M * Bertl good! :) 1264446381 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1264446534 M * urbee i just love it when things work, hah 1264446952 J * dallas ~dallas@dsl081-243-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1264447079 M * fzylogic ok, Bertl. Got it narrowed down to some upstream change between 2.6.28.10 and 2.6.29.2 1264447096 M * fzylogic 2.6.29.2-vs2.3.0.36.11 crashes while 2.6.28.10-vs2.3.0.36.11 does not 1264447129 J * hijacker ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1264447257 M * fzylogic backtrace and lock list: 1264447258 M * fzylogic http://karategerbil.com/kernel_debug/2.6.29.2-bt 1264447688 M * Bertl okay, and 2.6.28.10 does what instead? 1264447723 M * fzylogic attempts and fails to kill the process, but it stops the fread() so there's no lockup 1264447739 M * fzylogic and Kyle just sent me this: 1264447740 M * fzylogic http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/1/22/434 1264447745 M * fzylogic sounds possibly related 1264447925 M * Bertl could be ... I'm mor worried about the process not being killed 1264447929 M * Bertl *more 1264447970 M * Bertl I'm fine with ongoing I/O not being aborted and possibly causing repeated OOM killer invocations 1264447998 M * Bertl but as soon as the I/O finishes, the task should be terminated 1264448004 M * fzylogic yeah, honestly all I'm really concerned with is not crashing the host :) 1264448026 M * fzylogic the fread() did get interrupted and the process went on doing its thing (in this case, that was just sleeping for 60 seconds) 1264448052 M * fzylogic if that means there's no memory available to the guest for some amount of time, I'm ok with that 1264448066 M * Bertl btw, could you try (with a recent kernel/patch) to enable all the OOM related debug output Linux-VServer can do and a slightly modified vshelper which handles the guest OOM 1264448098 M * fzylogic can do 1264448172 M * Bertl means you need a 2.6.32 kernel (preferably latest) and add a case for REBOOT_OOM 1264448571 M * fzylogic is it normal for `cat /proc/sys/vserver/debug_misc` to generate an oops? :) 1264448765 M * fzylogic building a 2.6.32.4 1264448780 M * _Shiva_ fzylogic: 32.6 is out :) 1264448833 M * fzylogic the latest experimental patch was tagged 2.6.32.4 so I stuck with that 1264448844 M * _Shiva_ (vs patch for 32.4 does [at least] apply with the usual hunks and fail on EXTRAVERSION in Makefile) 1264449787 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c150033.adsl.hansenet.de 1264450480 M * Bertl fzylogic: no, actually that sounds like a bug :) 1264450494 M * fzylogic yeah, it's fixed in 2.6.32.4 1264450656 M * fzylogic Bertl: is there any updated documentation for the debug stuff? The version in the kernel tree doesn't mention all the available files 1264450836 M * Bertl except for the source, no, but let me see what we want 1264451237 M * Bertl seems we want to see xid bit 7 and misc bits 4,5 and 7 1264451350 J * Energ ~danh@ponch.ru 1264451367 M * fzylogic what do I echo to them? 1264451370 M * fzylogic binary string? decimal? 1264451407 M * Bertl 2^7 = 128, 2^5 = 32, 2^4 = 16 so 1264451419 M * Bertl 128 in xid, and 176 in misc 1264451443 M * fzylogic ok, rebooting with a 2.6.32.6 1264451606 M * Energ hi everyone! im trying run zoneminder inside guest. shmget(0x7a6d0001, 20737192, IPC_CREAT|0700) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) is what i get with strace when running zma server. Is this vserver related problem, should i enable something? Thx 1264451792 M * Bertl what kernel/patch/util-vserver version? 1264451931 M * Energ kernel 2.6.32-vs2.3.0.36.27 util-vserver-0.30.216 1264452002 M * Bertl 0.30.216 is not released yet, you're sure? 1264452037 M * Energ kinda.. epm -qa | grep vserver 1264452037 M * Energ util-vserver-0.30.216 1264452081 M * daniel_hozac whoever gave you that was lying :-) 1264452161 M * fzylogic or it's a pre-release like I'm running :) 1264452432 M * Bertl anyway, the shmget should succeed, at least as guest root 1264452449 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1264452495 M * fzylogic Bertl: these were the only 2 vserver debug messages: 1264452495 M * fzylogic vxD: ffff88003d7a5e60: check_kill_permission(1,ffff88003d62feb8,ffff88003c1b38a0[#0,4029]) 1264452495 M * fzylogic vxD: ffff88003a27cb80: check_kill_permission(28,ffff8800396abeb8,ffff88003d7a12e0[#20059,4504]) 1264452513 M * fzylogic and 2.6.32.6 still exhibits the crash 1264452616 M * Bertl okay, do you have the crash too? 1264452657 M * fzylogic http://karategerbil.com/kernel_debug/2.6.32.6-crash 1264453903 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264454441 Q * Energ Quit: Energ 1264454449 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c150033.adsl.hansenet.de 1264455810 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl 1264457535 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1264457567 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1264457906 J * Chlorek cokolwiek@c.sed.pl 1264458109 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264458898 J * niki ~niki@0x5553169c.adsl.cybercity.dk 1264460131 Q * Chlorek Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1264460174 P * kbad 1264460555 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1264460615 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1264460787 Q * ghislain 1264461175 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1264461931 J * Chlorek cokolwiek@c.sed.pl 1264462560 J * auntieNeo ~rewt@97-121-39-78.bois.qwest.net 1264462614 M * auntieNeo so I was wondering if it is technically feasible to run vserver on a livecd. thoughts? 1264462645 M * Bertl sure, IIRC, knoppix included support for some time ... maybe still does 1264462657 M * auntieNeo mmm... cool 1264462665 M * auntieNeo I'm using arch right now 'cause that's what I'm famaliar with 1264462801 M * auntieNeo another question... can vserver simulate network connections between clients such that the clients have no idea they are using one kernel? 1264462815 M * auntieNeo I'm trying to use vserver to simulate network scenarios 1264462857 M * Bertl well, depends, the basic setup gets you an isolated network, no network virtualization (for performance reasons) 1264462872 M * Bertl you can get virtual network stacks with the network namespace though 1264462895 M * Bertl but regardless, it won't be quite the same to havin a real network, for various reasons 1264462908 M * auntieNeo right, that's kind of what I'd expect 1264462916 M * auntieNeo it's like bridged networking, right? 1264462937 M * Bertl network isolation is like networking on the host 1264462954 M * Bertl i.e. no bridge involved, guest-guest and guest-host traffic happen over lo 1264462971 M * Bertl network namespaces work via a bridging scenario