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1263777521 J * laptopnenolod ~nenolod@198.202.202.22
1263778036 J * snooze ~o@1-1-4-40a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se
1263778404 Q * SpComb Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1263782117 J * BWare ~itsme@117.4.245.75
1263782117 Q * BWare 
1263784920 Q * FIChTe Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1263785125 J * FIChTe fichte@bashpipe.de
1263787230 J * SauLus_ ~SauLus@c192140.adsl.hansenet.de
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1263787640 N * SauLus_ SauLus
1263788335 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1263788340 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1263791541 J * niki ~niki@0x5553169c.adsl.cybercity.dk
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1263795457 Q * pmenier_off Quit: Konversation terminated!
1263795518 J * incd jussi@tahkokangas26.suomi.net
1263795538 M * incd Hey, when starting vprocunhide, I get 6 times: readdir(): Bad address
1263795622 M * daniel_hozac what arch?
1263795708 M * incd sparc
1263795723 M * daniel_hozac what dietlibc version?
1263795727 M * incd 2.6.31-vs2.3.0.36.23-gentoo
1263795738 M * incd diet version dietlibc-0.31 (non-install version in source tree)
1263795746 M * incd thanks
1263795764 M * daniel_hozac you probably want http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/m/delta-dietdirent-fix01.diff
1263795792 M * incd alright, thanks
1263796167 J * derjohn_mob aj@80.187.147.65
1263798322 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45
1263798760 M * incd Hmm, vserver doesn't seem to recognize my arc, I get "Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-/Packages" when trying to install debian sparc
1263798906 M * incd Ah, forgot "-- --arch sparc", I think
1263799330 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
1263799747 M * derjohn_mob incd, debootstrap should use the hosts $arch automatically ... dpkg --print-architecture show show the $arch. Besides that you can also the the $arch ENV variable, like export arch=sparc; vserver foo build ...
1263800363 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving.
1263800557 M * theocrite Is there any reason why a user should consider using ssh to enter a host rather than "vserver enter"?
1263800582 M * theocrite (oh and hi everyone)
1263801078 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
1263801087 M * derjohn_mob theocrite, yes, our users dont habe access to the host generally, they are only root within the guest
1263801142 M * derjohn_mob theocrite, besides that if you use filesystem "tag", cooying files via scp with the guest gives them the right conext id ...
1263801255 M * incd When I start vserver XXX with: vserver --verbose XXX start, it says: New network context is 42 .. Adding 81.175.xxx.xxx .. New security context is 42
1263801261 M * incd But the server is off
1263801274 M * incd vserver XXX enter -> "'vserver ... suexec' is supported for running vservers only; aborting..."
1263801346 M * derjohn_mob incd, very secure, noone can access it :)
1263801364 M * derjohn_mob try vserver --debug XXX start and see what happens
1263801386 M * derjohn_mob I suspect you host cannot run sparc architecture
1263801395 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-209-213-232.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net
1263801442 M * derjohn_mob (I dont know much about sparc, but didnt they switch to sparc64 long time ago?)
1263801860 M * theocrite derjohn_mob: thank you for the answer. So basically, the only reason would be not to give unprivileged users access to guests, right?
1263801909 M * theocrite Cause in our case, we don't have that on our admin servers, only roots.
1263801910 M * incd derjohn_mob: Output http://pastebin.com/d183af8dd
1263801961 M * derjohn_mob theocrite, yes, I personally run a server with one vserver for web, one for mail etc... there is also only ssh acces from the host :)
1263802087 M * theocrite Awesome. That's what I wanted to hear. Thank you again for the feedback.
1263802242 J * niki ~niki@cpe.fe4-0-120.0x50a6de52.kdnxd4.customer.tele.dk
1263802344 M * derjohn_mob incd, did you already change stiff in /etc/vservers/XXX/.. manually ?
1263802460 J * cga ~cga@89-96-63-86.ip11.fastwebnet.it
1263802698 M * derjohn_mob incd, does "vserver-stat" show somwthing ?
1263802748 M * derjohn_mob (I want to see that you dont have context 42 two times ... smells like cut-n-pasted from the wiki)
1263802850 N * blathijs_ blathijs
1263803363 M * incd derjohn_mob: Yeah, true cut-n-paste cause just testing :)
1263803366 J * yarihm ~yarihm@office-zrh.youngsolutions.ch
1263803372 M * incd vserver-stat gives only: "CTX   PROC    VSZ    RSS  userTIME   sysTIME    UPTIME NAME"
1263803445 M * derjohn_mob incd, ok, then you cont have duplicate context.... but what $arch ist your host?
1263803451 M * derjohn_mob dpkg --print-architecture ?
1263803468 M * incd I have Gentoo. :) and $arch -is not set.
1263803915 M * hijacker harry, thanks for the fix, it compiles alright now;-)
1263804108 M * incd derjohn_mob: Setting $arch didn't make much difference when starting the vserver
1263804111 M * incd :/
1263804135 M * derjohn_mob  $arch was the interesting part when building the guest ... 
1263804168 M * derjohn_mob incd, with Gentoo you should wait for Hollow in the channel ...
1263804248 M * derjohn_mob incd, you are still sure that the arch is not "sparc64" ?
1263804352 M * incd derjohn_mob: ah, I built the guest like: ARCH=sparc ; vserver XXX build ... etc
1263804452 M * incd and yea, I'm sure that its sparc, not sparc64 (afaik). Cause debian doesn't have sparc64 and gentoo wiki says Sparc64 == sparc. Weird thought that it doesn't give any errors nor warnings. :/
1263804494 M * incd Kernel: 2.6.31-vs2.3.0.36.23-gentoo and util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2864; Jan 18 2010, 08:35:31
1263804600 J * dna ~dna@170-198-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1263805778 M * derjohn_mob incd, Hollow and Bertl_zZ are far more enlightened than /me
1263806428 J * bzed_ ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
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1263806796 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
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1263810338 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr
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1263810565 J * scientes ~scientes@pool-71-112-65-234.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net
1263810805 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2
1263811093 J * harry ~harry@d51A461B4.access.telenet.be
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1263812414 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2
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1263813731 J * SpComb terom@zapotek.paivola.fi
1263816402 M * incd Eh
1263816426 M * incd Running "vserver-stat" froze the server
1263816465 M * incd Kernel froze, "SUN4V-DTLB: Error at TPC[484ac], tl 1"
1263816501 M * incd SUN4V-DTLB: TPC<vc_sched_info+0xa0/0x120>
1263817421 J * urug ~urug@west.gre.pl
1263818632 J * orzel ~orzel@berlioz.ethernet.freehackers.org
1263818816 M * orzel Hi!  Is there a problem using util-vserver 0.30.216~r2772-6 with a kernel 2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch1 (i've updated to debian etch, but the new kernel is not yet used)
1263818840 M * pmjdebruijn uhr
1263818842 M * pmjdebruijn updated to?
1263818846 M * pmjdebruijn lenny you mean?
1263818867 M * pmjdebruijn most of us use self built kernels
1263818870 M * pmjdebruijn not debian provided ones
1263818884 M * pmjdebruijn with lenny we've been having very good results using the 2.6.27.x tree
1263818908 M * orzel i have the following pb when starting a (gentoo) host : everything ok, but the host is not actually started  : http://freehackers.pastebin.com/m762ae7e9
1263818926 M * orzel erm.. ah. I'm using self-build kernel on all servers .. but debian's.
1263818991 M * pmjdebruijn no clue, I have no experience with vserver on gentoo
1263819012 M * orzel i have some that work pretty well. but the host is gentoo as well :/
1263821907 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr
1263822192 M * PowerKe orzel: did you define a service in the guest?
1263822203 M * PowerKe On gentoo there's no default service so the guest exits
1263822215 M * PowerKe add syslog or sshd or something
1263822265 M * PowerKe (keep in mind you might have to remove references to /proc/kmsg when adding a system logger)
1263822307 M * orzel PowerKe: ouch, this looks like my pb indeed. let me test
1263822489 M * orzel i've added a link to sshd to /etc/runlevel/defaults. When starting the vs sshd initialize its stuff, but the vs still wont start. But at least now it says http://freehackers.pastebin.com/m397a83ab
1263822518 M * orzel quite weird, but if i remove the sshd link, it still says this message. While it did not until i try with ssh
1263822620 M * orzel ah, using dcron instead makes it work
1263822635 M * orzel it's.... weird
1263822654 M * orzel ahah, but now i can log in and do real stuff great!
1263822660 M * orzel PowerKe: thanks a lot for the hint!
1263822706 M * PowerKe An easy way to configure the guest if it's not running is chrooting to it
1263822794 M * orzel erm, yes, indeed
1263824712 M * PowerKe orzel: btw, if sshd doesn't start, it's probably because the host is binding to all IP's
1263824831 M * PowerKe s/the host/sshd on the host/
1263825001 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection
1263825287 M * orzel PowerKe: i think so too. But it still displayed the green [ok]..
1263825312 M * orzel anyway it's all ok now. :)
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1263826798 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net
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1263826963 Q * dannf Remote host closed the connection
1263826993 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org
1263828120 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
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1263828860 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fe60:79d4
1263828872 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1263828877 M * Bertl morning folks!
1263829395 P * chepas 
1263830034 M * orzel out of curiosity. I restarted the virtual server, and the time 'consumed' seem to have migrated to the root node : http://freehackers.pastebin.com/m6ec36411
1263830040 M * orzel is that....normal ? 
1263830096 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl
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1263830555 J * chepas ~desrosier@fw.vdl2.ca
1263830658 Q * thierryp Read error: Connection reset by peer
1263830662 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr
1263831614 M * Bertl orzel: seems you are using quite old tools, newer util-vserver do not display a line for the host system/xid 0 anymore
1263831649 M * Bertl (the display of xid 0 was a bug btw :)
1263832033 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1263832219 Q * SubZero 
1263832647 M * orzel Bertl: this computer uses util-vserver 0.30.216~r2772-6
1263832669 M * orzel that's not that old, is it ?
1263832852 M * orzel and that's not even the default debian/lenny stuff.. i had to upgrade
1263833100 Q * eyck Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1263833213 M * Bertl unusual, you sure that you are not using a mix of old and new util-vserver?
1263833272 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2
1263833584 J * yarihm ~yarihm@dhcp-vpn-89-206-64-55.uzh.ch
1263833972 J * eyck ~eyck@77.79.198.68
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1263834821 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1263835528 M * Bertl orzel: looking at the util-vserver changelog suggest that this behaviour was changed in january 2007, and 0.30.216-pre2772 is dated august 2008
1263835537 M * Bertl *suggests
1263836165 M * orzel well. i dont know what to say, either the log is wrong or debian is lying about the version used. Or i severely screwed up something somewhere.
1263836173 M * orzel vserver-info says : util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2772; Dec 12 2008, 23:24:33
1263836385 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1263836419 M * hparker Multiple versions installed?
1263836434 M * daniel_hozac or CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY enabled in the kernel.
1263836464 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg
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1263837115 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl
1263837386 M * orzel the kernel is old, that might be it, too, no ? 2.6.18-6-vserver-686
1263837400 M * orzel yes, i'll update soon, and compile it myself, i swear
1263837420 M * orzel but i have to go 'physically' to the computer in case something goes wrong. It's far away.
1263837451 M * arachnist doesn't the computer have a remote management card?
1263837775 M * pmjdebruijn DRAC/iLO/IPMI
1263837787 M * pmjdebruijn it's hard to get a real server without these days
1263837995 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1263838070 M * arachnist not like anyone would really want a server without it
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1263840028 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
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1263841943 J * niki ~niki@0x5553169c.adsl.cybercity.dk
1263842663 M * Bertl pmjdebruijn, arachnist: still folks usually manage to get one :)
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1263843451 N * SubZero Guest2723
1263843455 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl
1263843474 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c152176.adsl.hansenet.de
1263843624 J * cga ~cga@82.84.165.91
1263843713 Q * cga 
1263843883 Q * Guest2723 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1263844275 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: lol :)
1263845120 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-72-135-146.dclient.hispeed.ch
1263845524 J * grant_ mep@87-98-246-129.ovh.net
1263845610 J * gdm_ ~gdm@pistol.redetoile.net
1263845678 Q * grant Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1263845678 Q * gdm Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1263845685 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1263846591 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
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1263848129 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks
1263848848 M * orzel arachnist: pmjdebruijn : it's an old athlon xp and i dont think it has this. This is a PC, not a real server.
1263849246 Q * SubZero 
1263849426 M * hijacker_ orzel, you can use lilo -R which only puts the new image on the next reboot
1263849463 M * hijacker_ once the computer boots with the new image, it will automatically switch back to the old boot image, so in case something goes wrong you just have to get some one to power it off or just reset it
1263849481 M * hijacker_ *someone
1263849714 M * harry damn... urug gone..
1263849978 M * fback good evening harry!
1263849995 M * harry heya
1263850007 A * harry has to review some code :(
1263850013 M * harry don't feel like it...
1263850078 M * orzel hijacker_: interesting. What about if i use grub ? :-)
1263850085 M * fback I don't feel like not sleeping soon ;)
1263850109 M * hijacker_ i am not quite sure if grub has that option
1263850115 M * hijacker_ you can search for it thou
1263850119 M * hijacker_ see man lilo
1263850124 M * orzel during work day i can phone them to reboot, or even to 5very slightly) tweak grub conf
1263850124 M * hijacker_ look for /-R
1263850133 M * orzel ok :)
1263850148 M * hijacker_ then see what it does and look for similar option in grub
1263850228 M * hijacker_ harry, thanks for the latest grsec+vserver fixup of the patch
1263850291 M * hijacker_ off to bed now
1263850295 M * harry np
1263850300 M * harry that's what i'm here for :)
1263850313 M * hijacker_ :->
1263850320 M * harry but i think there is a serious problem in the vserver patch, if i look at the latest mails on the ml...
1263850341 M * harry 14:03 <urug> But there is another problem - my machine is crashing everytime I try to compile a new kernel inside a vserver. No kernel panic, but machine stop responding  (keyboard/network)
1263850345 M * harry 14:04 <urug> I am using http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.31.11.tar.bz2 +  http://people.linux-vserver.org/~harry/patch-2.6.31.11-vs2.3.0.36.28-grsec2.1.14-20100117.diff
1263850350 M * harry 14:04 <urug> I tried to compile kernel on host - and everything worked OK - only on guest is crashing.
1263850353 M * harry might be related i think...
1263850355 M * harry Bertl?
1263850387 M * hijacker_ hm could be, i will experiment further tomorrow
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1263850400 A * harry off to bed too...
1263850405 M * harry g'night everyone!
1263850462 M * orzel good night :)
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1263853324 J * NOC|YEP ~yepsen@ip-95-222-78-232.unitymediagroup.de
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