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1263428560 M * pinochle okay, so XID tagging is a definate no-no on the HN / fs?
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1263441463 J * gavbaa ~gav@92.49.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com
1263441496 M * gavbaa Does anyone know how to make a tun device on the parent visible in the vserver?
1263441664 J * saulus_ ~saulus@d003185.adsl.hansenet.de
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1263441760 J * BWare ~itsme@210.86.227.2
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1263442712 M * gavbaa Okay, better question: I just want to use a VPN connection elsewhere in the world from inside my vserver.  I don't care if the VPN connection is initiated on the host, I'm fine with that.
1263442715 M * gavbaa How do I do this?
1263442741 M * gavbaa (i.e. client only.  The instructions on the wiki are for an OpenVPN server, and do not seem helpful in respect of the client)
1263443112 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:4795:b4d8:690
1263443925 M * gavbaa So no one's ever used a VPN client in their vserver?
1263443977 M * mugwump you'd probably need cap_net_admin with all the caveats
1263443987 M * gavbaa Aye, I've got that capability.
1263444033 M * mugwump Well, perhaps start by saying what problems you had
1263444042 M * mugwump have you done this before outside of the vserver?
1263444050 M * gavbaa Yes, the VPN works just fine on the parent.
1263444061 M * gavbaa In fact, I'm fine with running the VPN on the parent, and just somehow using the tun device from inside the vserver.
1263444064 M * mugwump ok, so does it fail with an error... ?
1263444084 M * mugwump yeah, it might be better that way, esp. as it means the vserver doesn't need net_admin any more
1263444097 M * gavbaa Well, there's nothing exactly to fail.  I'm just trying to map tun16 as a device the vserver can use.
1263444133 M * gavbaa So I've tried several configurations in "interfaces/X" in the vserver config, and it always starts, but I can't ping any of the machines that are on the other end of the VPN.
1263444146 M * gavbaa No error message on startup.
1263444150 M * gavbaa No entries in syslog.
1263444157 M * gavbaa Just not able to ping.
1263444204 M * gavbaa I would be thrilled if there was just a way to map tun16 into my vserver, and then have the appropriate routes of traffic (all established by the parent) send data through that tun.
1263444353 M * daniel_hozac the guest will use the interface if it is set as a route.
1263444373 M * daniel_hozac i would guess your problem is more to do with addressing.
1263444386 M * daniel_hozac does the other side know to route your guest's IP back through the VPN?
1263444390 M * daniel_hozac does your VPN allow other IPs?
1263444482 M * gavbaa The other side is entirely a black box to me, unfortunately.  I do not administer it.
1263444494 M * gavbaa What do you mean by "does your VPN allow other IPs"?
1263444508 M * daniel_hozac so, in that case, you probably want to masquerade the traffic.
1263444584 M * gavbaa I apologize, but you're now beyond me here.
1263444592 M * gavbaa So I can't just use the device directly in the guest?
1263444597 M * daniel_hozac sure you can.
1263444602 M * daniel_hozac there is no setup required.
1263444609 M * daniel_hozac your problem is not with using it.
1263444625 M * daniel_hozac your problem is that your VPN client/the other side doesn't know what to do with it.
1263444656 M * daniel_hozac try just iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o tun16 -j MASQUERADE and see if that takes care of it.
1263444697 M * gavbaa Do I need to restart the vserver after running that?
1263444702 M * daniel_hozac no
1263444719 M * gavbaa Hmm, that did not seem to work then.
1263444731 M * gavbaa Something that is pingable from the parent, is not pingable from within the vserver.
1263444741 M * gavbaa This is the interfaces/1/ directory, btw:
1263444760 M * gavbaa "tun16" > dev, "172.18.208.208." > ip, 24 > prefix
1263444763 M * gavbaa Is that correct?
1263445108 M * gavbaa Actually, that command has made it so that the parent is no longer able to ping those IPs either now.
1263445118 M * gavbaa I've disconnected and reconnected the VPN to verify.
1263445378 M * gavbaa Okay, the device was somehow bound by the vserver.  Stopping the vserver and restarting the VPN connection returned ping functionality to the parent hitting remote boxes.
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1263453232 J * Mr_Smoke smokey@layla.lecoyote.org
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1263465674 M * NOC|YEP http://nopaste.info/9b04347f31.html my error :(
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1263475692 J * incidence ~jussi@82-128-246-217-Rajakyla-TR1.suomi.net
1263475779 M * incidence hi, can I run x86/x86_64 on linux 2.6.x & ultrasparc? getting some bash "format errors" when trying to chroot
1263475813 M * incidence to guest debian x86_64
1263475815 M * Mr_Smoke Is this the part where I jump in and point out that ultrasparc and x86 are two very different things ?
1263475824 M * agaffney umm, no
1263475833 M * agaffney vserver is a glorified chroot
1263475836 M * Mr_Smoke And I mean very, *very* different.
1263475837 M * incidence I know they are different things :P
1263475853 M * Mr_Smoke incidence: then you want hardware virtualisation
1263475859 M * Mr_Smoke Which Vserver is not
1263475871 M * agaffney even hardware virtualization doesn't help here
1263475877 M * incidence yea ok :)
1263475879 M * agaffney you'd need something like qemu
1263475883 M * incidence ah
1263475889 M * incidence yea.
1263475895 M * incidence kvm + qemu?
1263475911 M * agaffney I think kvm is only useful for x86/x86_64
1263475919 M * agaffney or at least the same arch as the host
1263475935 M * agaffney qemu supports emulating lots of arches
1263475954 M * agaffney even to the point of running a x86_64 binary on ultrasparc without a full virt environment
1263475959 M * agaffney and other fun combinations
1263475977 M * Mr_Smoke agaffney: well hardware virt would allow a different CPU, right ?
1263475984 M * incidence anyways, searching a way to virtualize debian based distros with gentoo 2.6 and sun t5210.
1263475987 M * Mr_Smoke Oh I see
1263475996 M * Mr_Smoke You thought I meant the VT extensions maybe
1263476006 M * agaffney Mr_Smoke: hardware virt just aids in context switches and isolation of the guest, not emulation of different instruction sets
1263476040 M * agaffney incidence: why not debian sparc64?
1263476040 M * Mr_Smoke agaffney: maybe it came out wrong ; I meant any kind of virtualization that can emulate non-native hardware, including the CPU.
1263476063 M * agaffney I see "hardware virtualization" and think the virt instructions on x86_64 processors
1263476078 M * incidence agaffney: yea, thats what I'm gonna go with
1263476116 M * agaffney incidence: why not just use debian as the host or Gentoo as the guests?
1263476183 J * dna ~dna@170-198-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1263476184 M * dna s www.amt24.de
1263476185 A * agaffney notes that he is also in #gentoo-sparc and can help you there with the Gentoo side of things
1263476193 M * agaffney as can the other people in the channel
1263476201 M * dna sorry
1263476210 M * incidence have to use debian as guests. (not my decision)
1263476231 M * agaffney I'm not sure how up to date debian's sparc64 port is these days
1263476298 M * agaffney it looks like there was a sparc port of Ubuntu 9.04
1263476355 M * incidence its alright I think. (ircing w/s60putty+gprs in -15 celsius is kinda troublesome)
1263476372 M * ^Willie^ lol
1263476374 M * agaffney heh
1263476376 M * ^Willie^ -15 ?
1263476385 M * incidence finland.
1263476402 M * ^Willie^ ahh hi from holland :p
1263476410 M * incidence :p
1263476410 M * ^Willie^ -5
1263476447 M * ^Willie^ untill summer time and then my wd mtbook's will fail again 
1263476471 M * ^Willie^ come home from work at a day 25c and 4 wd nas disk`s blinking the same error 
1263476482 M * Mr_Smoke Ew.
1263476488 M * ^Willie^ overheated :S
1263476523 M * incidence I think I kinda know agaffney from somewhere. gentoo handbooks probably. :)
1263476530 M * ^Willie^ jup
1263476566 M * incidence or old #freenode-social
1263476592 M * ^Willie^ anyway i have some stuff todo ..
1263476606 M * ^Willie^ finish my wrt like panel for my gentoo box ;)
1263476613 M * ^Willie^ since i use that box as wrt 
1263476667 M * Mr_Smoke wrt, as in ... ?
1263476800 M * ^Willie^ manage dhcp/routings/iptables via www
1263476830 M * ^Willie^ still thinking to about sudo v.s. php-cli 
1263476835 M * ^Willie^ -to
1263477196 M * Mr_Smoke Oh righ
1263477213 M * Mr_Smoke I'm actually thinking of taking that job off one of my WRT54GL indeed
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1263481361 N * Sirenia_ Sirenia
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1263482154 M * NOC|YEP http://nopaste.info/9b04347f31.html my error :(
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1263482459 M * Mr_Smoke NOC|YEP: so you keep saying.
1263482578 M * NOC|YEP Yes!
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1263482780 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com
1263483026 M * Mr_Smoke And still you provide with no information apart from these 3 lines.
1263483035 M * Mr_Smoke ENOCRYSTALBALL
1263483038 M * Mr_Smoke :)
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1263494636 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1263494640 M * Bertl greetings!
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1263495953 M * biz hello Bertl :-)
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