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1261291049 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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1261316793 M * Bertl morning folks!
1261318508 M * harry Bertl: are there any other atomic vars that are never decremented?
1261318509 M * harry ?
1261318519 M * harry bleh... slow inet connection
1261318542 M * Bertl very likely
1261318578 M * harry this patching  is getting more difficult every day ;)
1261318615 M * harry hard to keep up to date with all the "extra" patching, which is allmod impossible to "keep seperate
1261318650 M * Bertl atomic_inc(&vxi->cvirt.total_forks);
1261318670 M * Bertl well, those are not really new (in Linux-VServer :)
1261318744 M * Bertl also the limit hits can overflow
1261318808 M * Bertl in general, I'd restrict refcount checks to refcounts :)
1261318881 M * Bertl (i.e. look for {ref,use}*{cnt,count} )
1261319057 M * harry that's a possibility too...
1261319089 M * harry but that still doesn't change the "results" of the grsec part of changing the way atomic values are changed
1261319393 M * harry do you know of an easy way that i can keep inline with vserver patches, grsecurity patches and a way to not have to do all the extra "making it work together" separate?
1261319434 M * harry right now i diff 2 ways and make the interdiff of the diffs the same, changing some fs_struct stuff myself, changing the localversion-usage, etc...
1261320252 M * Bertl well, I'd work with two separate patchsets
1261320319 M * Bertl i.e. create a grsec ontop of Linux-VServer patch (adaptations like the refcount stuff could be done by scripts) and check for changes in grsec (interdiff), then apply them to this patchset
1261320347 M * Bertl when something changes in Linux-VServer (new features/changes), you get the delta there and check it against the current grsec ontop of Linux-VServer 
1261320366 M * Bertl and add the relevant changes there, but not the Linux-VServer changes
1261320396 M * Bertl this way, the changes are minimal and patch Linux-VServer/grsec specific
1261320524 M * harry true...
1261320533 M * harry i'll see what i can come up with :)
1261320593 M * harry the problem is, interdiff'ing is not always possible
1261320607 M * harry especially in mayor kernel versions...
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1261332097 M * trippeh Has the new KSM kernel feature been considered for vserver?
1261332208 M * trippeh (I know cow link breaking kinda does something vaugely similar too, on a different level)
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1261333310 M * Bertl trippeh: well, the 'new' KSM feature requires userspace apps to 'mark' pages to be shareable
1261333346 M * Bertl trippeh: so, as soon as userspace apps will use that interface and 'mark' them, it will work out of the box, till then, there is no easy way to utilize it
1261333812 M * trippeh Right, so it cannot be inherited? Guess KVM has an advantage on that point, not having to deal with that :)
1261334076 A * MooingLemur moos.
1261334862 M * arekm egh, userspace apps?
1261334871 M * arekm not kernel stuff like virtualization layer?
1261334888 M * Bertl no, interestingly it is userspace
1261334907 M * Bertl i.e. the kvm userspace app registers certain pages for sharing
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