1260921710 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1260921874 M * mrjack hm, i keep gettin "RTNETLINK answers: Numerical result out of range" when trying to start a vserver - does anyone know what could be the problem? the interface configuration looks okay and if i manually add the ip to the interface, everything works... 1260921941 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1260922573 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260923429 Q * jrklein Quit: jrklein 1260923590 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1260924202 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:538d:b4d8:690 1260925469 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1260927248 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260927393 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260927485 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260928814 Q * cuba33ci Read error: Connection reset by peer 1260928828 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260933951 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1260933960 M * Bertl morning folks! 1260934019 M * Bertl mrjack: maybe one of your alias names is too long? (there is a limit to 15 chars interface + colon + alias) 1260934181 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260934204 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118.160.168.140 1260935659 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260935676 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118.160.168.140 1260935819 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260935833 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260935957 M * Bertl cuba33ci: please fix your connection 1260936034 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c150040.adsl.hansenet.de 1260936446 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260936450 N * saulus_ SauLus 1260936684 Q * Mr_Smoke Remote host closed the connection 1260936687 J * Mr_Smoke ~smokey@layla.lecoyote.org 1260937093 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260937334 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118.160.168.140 1260938373 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260938541 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260942447 Q * niki Quit: Leaving 1260942509 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.94.249.216 1260942635 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1260942804 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260942827 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118.160.168.140 1260943523 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260943766 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.94.249.216 1260944471 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1260944501 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260945162 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.94.249.216 1260945418 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1260947299 M * Bertl off for a nap .. bbl 1260947304 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1260947539 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1260948137 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1260948271 Q * balbir_ Remote host closed the connection 1260948746 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260949292 Q * nenolod Quit: Leaving 1260949572 J * davidkarban ~david@80.250.18.198 1260950027 Q * ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260950611 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1260951627 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1260952932 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1260953421 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1260955293 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1260955547 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1260955877 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1260955930 M * kezar Bertl_oO > hey it works :) (for incoming requests at least) 1260956364 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260956525 J * Piet ~Piet__@659AAAAU6.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1260957080 J * nenolod ~nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org 1260957362 M * Bertl_oO kezar: good, what was the problem? 1260957578 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260957746 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1260957773 Q * FaUl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260957923 M * kezar dunno what really changed, I rewrote the rules, disabled tcp syn cookies, rebooted the host, and it works (but the guest still can't reach the internet) 1260958097 J * Piet ~Piet__@659AAAAWC.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1260958128 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:470:e056:1:4::9 1260958336 M * Bertl_oO so, what rules do you have now? 1260958358 M * Bertl_oO maybe the SNAT rule is wrong too :) 1260958421 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1260959868 M * ghislain bertl: in 2.3 we use the token bucket or the cgroup ? or are both possible ? 1260959878 M * kezar Bertl_oO > -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j SNAT --to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 1260959901 M * ghislain bertl: because i use cgroup now and i wondered if i need to 'disbale' the token bucket if not used 1260960081 M * Bertl_oO ghislain: token bucket is possible for priority adjustments, but can be disabled in favor of cfs+hard-limits 1260960148 M * Bertl_oO kezar: and what does 'tcpdump -vvnei eth0 log' when you e.g. 'telnet www.google.com 80' (from inside the guest)? 1260960154 M * ghislain bertl: ok thanks ! 1260960606 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1260960785 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260960803 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260960844 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-150-83.dclient.hispeed.ch 1260961087 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.85.196.112 1260961238 M * mrjack Bertl_oO: thanks, that fixed it 1260961355 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260961369 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260961393 M * kezar Bertl_oO > I added the ! -d again, the problem came from local packets 1260961455 M * kezar now I can break everything with firewall rules :D 1260961843 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260961856 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260962000 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1260962570 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260962584 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118.160.168.140 1260963363 M * kezar do you recommend something special concerning firewall rules ? (apart from dropping private addresses, broadcast, null/xmas/fake syn/fragmented packets) 1260963410 J * niki ~niki@cpe.fe4-0-120.0x50a6de52.kdnxd4.customer.tele.dk 1260963747 Q * vServer_User Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260963873 M * Bertl_oO kezar: no difference to 'normal' linux systems, just keep in mind that host-guest and guest-guest traffic uses 'lo 1260963900 M * kezar I saw that 1260963911 M * kezar I meant concerning the global machine 1260964072 J * vServer_User ~vServer_U@host90-152-15-246.ipv4.regusnet.com 1260964303 M * kezar I'm not a guru, I'm always glad to have some good tips from other people 1260964672 Q * vServer_User Remote host closed the connection 1260964686 J * vServer_User ~vServer_U@host90-152-15-246.ipv4.regusnet.com 1260964895 M * Mr_Smoke kezar: from where I stand, your question looks like "i there any recommended firewall setting", final :-) 1260964907 M * Mr_Smoke To which the usual answer is : YMMV :) 1260964930 M * Mr_Smoke Most security-aware people would recommend to set the policy to disable and to enable only what you need 1260964963 M * kezar that's what I do 1260964996 M * Bertl_oO well, you won't be able to top that :) 1260965043 M * Mr_Smoke Yup :) 1260965056 M * Mr_Smoke Also, conntrack helps a lot, IMHO 1260965174 Q * Chlorek Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260965440 M * kezar I came to virtualization for security purposes in fact, one of our servers that was admin by another company (which did not do its job) has been rooted 2 weeks ago so we decided to internalize it completely 1260965467 M * Mr_Smoke Yeaouch 1260965501 M * Mr_Smoke That's also the reason why I went with vserver in the first place 1260965507 M * kezar (they ran a fc5 :/) 1260965519 M * Mr_Smoke Now I'm longing for the next stable release :) 1260965525 M * Mr_Smoke this 2.6.22 is getting old 1260965551 M * Mr_Smoke lvm snapshot still labeled as experimental, sent my box into a defunct process frenzy the other day 1260965554 M * Mr_Smoke :P 1260965788 M * kezar well I have no problems on mine (now) 1260965990 M * kezar I heard about openvz, but when I saw there was nothing available for linux>2.6.27 and that it seemed unmaintained, I looked for something else 1260966018 M * kezar vserver seems really good :) 1260966121 M * Mr_Smoke What version are you running now ? 1260966132 M * kezar of linux ? 1260966139 M * Mr_Smoke linux+vserver yheah 1260966245 M * kezar 2.6.31.7-grsec and vserver 0.30.216-pre2855 1260966261 M * Mr_Smoke Oh ok, so you went for the devel/testing ones :) 1260966348 M * kezar for vserver yes, the kernel is supposed to be stable 1260966379 M * Mr_Smoke Of course yeah. 1260966393 M * kezar (I hope it is :)) 1260966394 M * Mr_Smoke I have a vserver 2.3.x somewhere too 1260966400 M * Mr_Smoke Must admit, never had a problem with it 1260966437 M * Mr_Smoke Do you use grsec's RSBAC, or just PaX features ? 1260966478 M * kezar just pax for now, I don't know if I will use rsbac 1260966748 M * pmjdebruijn uh 1260966754 M * pmjdebruijn GrSec doesn't do RSBAC right? 1260966761 M * pmjdebruijn it has it's own access control system? 1260966771 M * pmjdebruijn or does it integrate Amon Ott's RSBAC system 1260966772 M * pmjdebruijn ? 1260966886 M * kezar it does RBAC, you can manage it with gradm 1260966893 M * Mr_Smoke Hm IIRC GrSec has RBAC yeah 1260966912 M * kezar http://grsecurity.net/features.php 1260967241 M * Bertl_oO Linus only does stable kernels nowadays ... they are more experimental than anything we released as devel, but hey, who cares :) 1260967310 J * hijacker__ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1260967310 Q * hijacker_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1260967408 J * Chlorek cokolwiek@c.sed.pl 1260968234 M * pmjdebruijn Mr_Smoke: RBAC != RSBAC :) 1260968334 M * Mr_Smoke Yep 1260969419 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1260969796 M * kezar does vserver require to disable some functions of grsec ? 1260969835 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1260969842 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~harry/_README_ 1260970219 M * kezar hum 404 1260970426 M * kezar in fact for the moment everything works fine, but there are some options disabled in my sysctl.conf (chroot_caps, chroot_deny_chroot, chroot_deny_fchdir, chroot_findtask), I wanted to know if it's a default setup made by the package maintainer that I can change or if it's something required by vserver 1260970678 M * kezar ok it seems that findtask has to be disabled 1260971196 M * Mr_Smoke I know that you *cannot* run vserver properly if you have some of those enabled 1260971223 M * Mr_Smoke chroot_deny_mount is obviously a no-no :p 1260971270 M * Mr_Smoke kezar: http://pastebin.com/m171b093d <= that works for me 1260971290 M * Mr_Smoke Mind that's on 2.2 vserver, but it should not be too different 1260971536 M * kezar ok the only differences are chroot_deny_chroot and chroot_deny_fchdir 1260971579 M * kezar if it works for you I should keep them enabled 1260971722 M * kezar thanks 1260971812 M * kezar by the way Bertl_oO, it works with a postfix on the host too :) 1260971865 M * Mr_Smoke I run postfix in one of the guests, and bind9 in another, if that's of any use to you :) 1260971989 M * kezar I run it only to send mails from scripts, the real mail server will be elsewhere 1260972096 M * kezar the bind is on the host, I don't know what to do with it, just a chroot or put it in a vserver 1260972123 M * kezar (there is no access to the named from the outside) 1260972220 M * Mr_Smoke Bah, leave it where it is then 1260972373 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1260972789 M * kezar I may be wrong, but is it a good idea to set a cpu limit to the guest to be sure that I can connect to the host even if there is something that burns the cpu in the guest ? 1260973250 M * ghislain humm i do not knwo how to see if rlimits are enforced but seems they are not 1260973412 M * ghislain you could see them in /prov/virtual/xid/ normaly but i still have -1/-1 1260973426 M * ghislain FILES: 853 0/ 967 -1/ -1 0 1260973454 M * ghislain but in /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/rlimits i have nofile.hard and nofile.soft 1260973500 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1260974808 J * thierryp ~thierry@ANice-256-1-148-12.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr 1260976266 M * ghislain daniel_hozac: i have some errors when restarting a guest on util-vserver, this is: /usr/local/lib/util-vserver/vserver.functions: line 1490: /dev/cgroup/guest03/cpu.cfs_period_u: Permission denied 1260976274 M * ghislain restarting it again give no error 1260976695 M * Bertl_oO ghislain: util-vserver version and did you try in the guest config tree? 1260978508 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1260978530 M * kezar erf :/ php segfaults after paxctl -c on the mod_php lib 1260978708 M * ghislain Bertl_oO: 0.30.216-pre2864 and yes i tried in the config tree also but no luck 1260978731 M * Bertl_oO how about vlimit? 1260978755 M * ghislain humm let me try it 1260978824 M * ghislain FILES: 972 0/ 1131 3000/ 3000 0 1260978826 M * ghislain it works 1260978842 Q * bonbons Read error: Connection timed out 1260978857 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1260978861 M * Bertl_oO so, I presume something in your config is wrong, or you discovered a bug in util-vserver 1260978865 M * ghislain let me try again in the tree and restart the context 1260978947 M * ghislain ok 1260978963 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1260978978 M * ghislain so it works in the tree but not in the defaults. let me remove the rlimit empty dir and retest it 1260979043 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260979071 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260979079 M * ghislain ok so it works in the tree but not in the default 1260979098 M * ghislain my first 'in tree ' test must have missed something 1260979205 M * ghislain bertl: yes test confirmed .default rlimits do not propagate for me but in guest rlimits propagate 1260979236 M * ghislain daniel_hozac: hi daniel, i got two little error in latest utils, if you pass by can you ping me ? 1260979256 J * thierryp ~thierry@ANice-256-1-148-12.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr 1260979352 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260979438 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260979566 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260979580 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260979706 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260979749 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118.160.168.140 1260980047 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat 1260980696 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1260981217 Q * arekm Quit: leaving 1260981497 Q * jrdnyquist Quit: Leaving 1260981557 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1260981591 Q * jrdnyquist 1260981602 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1260981646 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260981694 Q * jrdnyquist 1260981736 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1260981805 Q * manana Read error: Connection timed out 1260981837 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org 1260981867 Q * arekm 1260981868 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org 1260981883 Q * arekm 1260981897 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org 1260982159 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1260982230 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1260982750 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d026180.adsl.hansenet.de 1260984153 J * hijacker ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1260984245 Q * niki Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260984448 M * kezar anyone to help me with PaX ? :/ I have a cannot make segment writable for relocation 1260984604 M * kezar (I disabled PT_PAX_FLAGS since paxctl -c seemed to corrupt the lib and I have pemrxs with chpax) 1260984828 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1260985194 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1260985611 Q * barismetin Quit: Leaving... 1260986282 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1260987828 M * Mr_Smoke kezar: what's the context in which you get that error ? 1260989126 Q * jrklein Quit: jrklein 1260989251 J * blues ~blues@abo252.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 1260989371 Q * blues_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260989456 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260989749 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1260990084 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:1d3f:b957:8a5b 1260990623 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1260990876 M * kezar Mr_Smoke > trying to start apache, error while loading libphp5.so (it works without it) 1260990962 M * Mr_Smoke Oh 1260990990 M * Mr_Smoke You need to compile PHP with PIC I think 1260991002 M * Mr_Smoke You're not running Gentoo by any chance ? 1260991018 M * kezar they said it will reduce speed :/ 1260991054 M * kezar nope, archlinux 1260991057 M * Mr_Smoke Hm, i haven't tested the server specifically for speed 1260991070 M * Mr_Smoke But I do know that running PaX has some impact on PHP 1260991086 M * Mr_Smoke For one thing, it will not play nice if you've got SEGMEXEC, so I recommend against it 1260991118 M * kezar for the moment the problem is only with php 1260991141 M * kezar they never do things like everyone else :] 1260991176 M * Mr_Smoke Who's they ? 1260991184 M * kezar php core team 1260991203 M * Mr_Smoke Ah well 1260991218 Q * manana Read error: Connection timed out 1260991219 M * kezar I tried to disable pax stuff for the php lib as I said but it does not work :/ 1260991227 M * Mr_Smoke All I know is I've got PaX and a pretty tight set of flags, PHP compiled with pic, kernel without SEGMEXEC 1260991230 M * Mr_Smoke And it runs like a charm 1260991244 M * Mr_Smoke What's your CPU ? 1260991255 M * kezar I'll recompile it 1260991267 M * kezar c2d e6xxx 1260991276 M * Mr_Smoke I remember something about TEXTRELs slowing things down 1260991283 M * kezar E6550 1260991287 M * kezar yep 1260991294 M * Mr_Smoke But I never experienced it 1260991297 M * kezar I read about it on some wikis 1260991309 M * Mr_Smoke Then again, I have the VT extensions 1260991310 M * kezar I tried to readelf and grep for it but nothing 1260991328 M * Mr_Smoke Bah, best thing is to give it a shot 1260991331 M * kezar I'll recompile php with pic 1260991354 M * Mr_Smoke I know that with the hardened profile (PaX), I have to compile PHP with pic 1260991888 M * Mr_Smoke kezar: ok I have done my research, if you disable TEXTRELs in PAX you *need* --with-pic 1260991936 M * Mr_Smoke It mentions a possible slow down, but in your case it's either that or no PHP apparently :p 1260992005 M * kezar and if you don't disable textrels ? 1260992222 M * Mr_Smoke Dunno, maybe pic is not necessary 1260992333 M * kezar if it does not work I'll try with fcgi maybe it will be ok 1260992476 M * Mr_Smoke I doubt that 1260992531 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260992542 M * Mr_Smoke IMHO it's better to try with pic, see if the slowdown is really noticeable (chances are, it won't be) and go for it 1260992568 M * kezar that's what I'm saying :) 1260992644 M * Mr_Smoke ok :) 1260993119 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1260993201 M * kezar it takes a long time to compile as usual 1260993222 M * kezar you're running gentoo, aren't you ? 1260993791 M * kezar apache starts now 1260993808 M * Mr_Smoke Yep 1260993828 M * Mr_Smoke I had to recompile from source way too often, back in my debian days 1260993852 M * kezar and how do you do when you're in a hurry ? 1260993864 M * Mr_Smoke I try not to be in a hurry :) 1260993867 M * kezar :) 1260993875 M * Mr_Smoke All the same I've got a rather beefy Core2Quad 1260993881 M * Mr_Smoke So php takes ... 1260993892 M * Mr_Smoke 4 minutes to compile :) 1260993972 M * kezar I'm satisfied of arch, there are precompiled packages for lots of things and it's easy to recompile what you want 1260993990 M * kezar (and it's up-to-date) 1260994043 M * kezar so, now that it's working 1260994058 M * kezar I have to test it :) 1260994326 M * Mr_Smoke :) 1260994351 M * kezar it seems good for the moment 1260994579 M * kezar wrote 50K times "test" in 0.2s 1260994649 M * kezar not that bad 1260995521 M * kezar anyone here uses openssh-hpn ? 1260995556 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1260995647 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1260995762 M * Mr_Smoke nope 1260995766 M * Mr_Smoke Good about your php though :) 1260995913 M * kezar yep thanks :) 1260996097 Q * kiorky Read error: Connection reset by peer 1260996099 J * kiorky ~kiorky@cryptelium.net 1260996217 Q * jrklein Quit: jrklein 1260996286 Q * jrdnyquist Remote host closed the connection 1260996718 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1260997675 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:470:e056:1:223:54ff:fe89:b207 1260997686 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1260997819 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:470:e056:1:223:54ff:fe89:b207 1260998633 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1260999122 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1260999383 Q * bonbons Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1260999944 Q * Hollow_ Quit: leaving 1261000591 J * Hollow ~bene@shiva.xnull.de 1261001505 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1261001507 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1261001523 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1261001679 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1261001687 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1261001794 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1261001834 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1261002478 J * jrklein ~jrklein@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:4e72:b4d8:690 1261002615 J * niki ~niki@0x5553169c.adsl.cybercity.dk 1261002942 Q * cuba33ci Remote host closed the connection 1261003099 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net 1261005349 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-173-19.dclient.hispeed.ch 1261005573 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1261005647 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1261006161 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1261006880 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1261007178 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1261007232 J * sladen ~paul@starsky.19inch.net 1261007720 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep