1259193623 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1259193707 M * micah daniel_hozac: i heard you may be working on a release of util-vserver soon? 1259193710 M * Bertl because everything which isn't at least half a year old can't be good? 1259193756 M * Bertl micah: pre2864 is out, should fix hte testfs issues 1259193772 M * Bertl (among others, I guess) 1259193804 M * micah thanks, I'll give that a shot 1259193815 M * vServer_User how do you set shm via the guest config? 1259193824 M * vServer_User putting it it sysctl.conf returns an error 1259193835 M * micah i'm sure the newer kernel patch is good, but I prefer to have some more testing before I unleash it on my production boxes 1259193918 M * Bertl vServer_User: http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1259193967 M * Bertl micah: i.e. you prefer the known broken 2.6.26 ... that's true debian love I guess :) 1259194054 M * Bertl micah: but as I said, wrap it up, I'll give it a spin on a non-debian kernel 1259194057 M * vServer_User i've got the rlimit set (i figred that one out this morning) 1259194079 M * Bertl good, now search for sysctl 1259194086 M * vServer_User but cat /proc/virtual/42/limit shows almost nothing 1259194089 M * vServer_User under SHM 1259194105 M * Bertl just means that nobody is using much 1259194109 M * vServer_User ahah 1259194116 M * vServer_User didn't see the sysctl dir 1259194129 M * vServer_User is that where you would specify hugetlbs ? 1259194156 M * Bertl it's hwere you specify sysctl settings which are supposed to affect the guest :) 1259194245 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: thnaks for the pre2864 btw! 1259194748 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1259194804 M * micah Bertl: nop. i just prefer known to the unknown. I actually prefer the 2.6.18 one to 2.6.26.... i just updated to see if it would fix the prob 1259195417 M * vServer_User set the sysctl ... shm still not in use 1259195421 M * vServer_User eaccelerator is a liar 1259195583 Q * malveo Quit: malveo 1259196473 M * Bertl okay, updated testfs.sh-0.22 should work fine with recent util-vserver 1259196767 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259197457 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1259198367 Q * AmokPaule Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de 1259198654 J * scientes ~scientes@174-21-223-62.tukw.qwest.net 1259201074 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1259201078 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259201079 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1259205558 Q * nenolod Remote host closed the connection 1259207798 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c135243.adsl.hansenet.de 1259207798 Q * SauLus Read error: Connection reset by peer 1259207808 N * saulus_ SauLus 1259208235 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1259212657 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259213202 J * scientes ~scientes@174-21-140-29.tukw.qwest.net 1259214169 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259217634 J * uva bno@118-168-237-67.dynamic.hinet.net 1259217982 Q * uva_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259219601 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259219608 J * uva_ bno@118-168-237-67.dynamic.hinet.net 1259219863 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259219962 Q * uva Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259220092 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259220389 J * davidkarban ~david@80.250.18.198 1259220531 J * Piet ~Piet__@04ZAACJ0Q.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1259220772 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.85.196.112 1259221081 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1259221280 J * scientes ~scientes@174-21-140-29.tukw.qwest.net 1259222151 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1259222240 J * Piet ~Piet__@04ZAACJ1B.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1259223092 Q * AndrewLee Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259223578 Q * hijacker Remote host closed the connection 1259223677 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1259224525 J * todo HydraIRC@chello089072037091.chello.pl 1259224923 J * malveo ~malveo@79.143.115.144 1259225251 M * todo Hi, i have problem with CPU scheduler - dont work 1259225264 M * todo debian lenny, vanilla kernel + vs2.3.0.36.24-grsec2.1.14-20091116, SCHED_HARD in config, CONFIG_VSERVER_HARDCPU=y 1259225294 M * daniel_hozac yeah, it's not supposed to. 1259225300 M * daniel_hozac you need to use the CFS hard limits. 1259225300 M * todo and cpuhog in guest always consume 100% cpu host server 1259225445 M * todo daniel, in lenny, if at all? 1259225516 M * daniel_hozac what? 1259225547 M * daniel_hozac see http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Cgroups 1259225570 M * todo ok, now i see 1259225604 M * todo all the time I read old docs 1259225653 M * todo loss of 3 weeks, but the channel perfectly reflects my situation 1259225658 M * todo thx daniel :) 1259225672 M * daniel_hozac you're welcome. 1259226128 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259226152 J * balbir ~balbir@122.248.161.59 1259226982 Q * malveo Quit: malveo 1259227020 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1259227092 Q * BenG 1259227093 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1259227321 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw 1259227701 Q * BenG Remote host closed the connection 1259228062 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1259228538 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1259229208 Q * AndrewLee Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259229428 Q * barismetin Quit: Leaving... 1259230009 Q * nas Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060309] 1259230382 Q * vServer_User 1259230677 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw 1259230682 Q * AndrewLee 1259230685 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw 1259230686 Q * AndrewLee 1259230700 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw 1259230777 Q * Wonka Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259230969 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1259231006 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1259231242 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1259232145 J * AndrewLe1 ~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw 1259232262 Q * AndrewLee Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259232621 J * AmokPaule ~amokpaule@brsg-4dbbb3e9.pool.mediaWays.net 1259233999 Q * fback Read error: Connection reset by peer 1259234006 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1259234051 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1259234777 Q * BenG Remote host closed the connection 1259235197 J * Shuro ~jg2@81.89.253.146 1259235216 P * Shuro 1259236994 Q * fback Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259237544 J * Psy0rz ~psy0rz@lounge.datux.nl 1259237552 M * Psy0rz is vserver related to linux containers? 1259237564 M * Psy0rz or are they 2 different projects that do some of the same things? 1259237660 Q * zbyniu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259238575 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1259239621 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1259239892 M * BWare anyone knows how to change /proc/sys/kernel/msgmni in a running vserver ? 1259240383 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection 1259240402 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259240414 J * barismetin ~barismeti@zanzibar.inria.fr 1259240483 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust521.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1259240903 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1259240911 M * Bertl morning folks! 1259240924 M * biz hi Bertl :) 1259240962 J * xdr_ ~xdr@h-238-74.A219.priv.bahnhof.se 1259240966 M * Bertl Psy0rz: Linux-VServer is about 8 years old, lxc not even production ready ... what do you think? 1259241000 M * Bertl BWare: you need to enter the ipc namespace and adjust it 1259241007 M * Bertl hey biz 1259241033 M * BWare Bertl: morning 1259241069 M * BWare Bertl: vnamespace -e ID -- echo "value" > /proc/sys/kernel/.... ? 1259241072 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259241147 M * Bertl that would enter the filesystem namespace 1259241174 M * Bertl well, actually it should enter more than that 1259241181 M * BWare ;) 1259241184 M * Bertl but the redirection '>' will happen on the host 1259241221 M * Bertl i.e. the echo will execute in the namespace, but the file is opened and written to on the host 1259241256 M * transacid Bertl: apropos production ready. how is stabilization coming? 1259241287 M * BWare Bertl: any hints on how to make actual change ? 1259241352 M * biz BWare: try vnamespace ... -- sh -c 'echo ... > ...' 1259241374 M * BWare biz: will do, thanks 1259241510 M * BWare hmmz.. no change in procfs on the guest 1259241662 M * Bertl use vspace to enter the ipc space and use sysctl to query/set 1259241858 M * BWare ah... thanks 1259241928 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1259242533 M * Psy0rz Bertl ok but its a seperate project? or is it something that will be used by vserver in the future? 1259242559 M * Psy0rz or am i cursing in the curch ;) 1259242639 M * Bertl well, we are already 'using' the kernel side part of lxc (as it was a redevelopment of what we had for years, basically) 1259242684 M * Bertl but Linux-VServer has a different userspace approach, a bunch of additional features and/or tricks to improve performance 1259242701 M * Psy0rz oki thx 1259242710 M * Psy0rz how 'experimental' is 2.3 with 2.6.27.x 1259242735 M * Psy0rz is it usable in production? 1259242790 M * Bertl it is used in production, but I'd go for 2.6.31.x as it seems to be better mainline wise and has all the cleanups and improvements we did in the last time 1259242809 M * Psy0rz ah ok 1259242815 M * Psy0rz but 2.6.27 is long time support 1259242861 M * Psy0rz i dont want to reinvent the wheel every month when a new major kernel is released ;) 1259242875 M * Psy0rz and check 100 new/changed/depricated kernel options 1259242892 M * Bertl correct, but I'm not sure _how_ long 2.6.27 will remain 1259242893 M * fback Bertl: sorry for the mess, seems my wife needed to disconnect the router few times ;] 1259242946 M * Psy0rz thx Bertl 1259243369 M * Bertl np 1259243585 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1259245020 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat 1259245940 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259246634 J * thierryp ~thierry@80.48.104.3 1259247360 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1259248803 Q * uva_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1259249610 Q * jrklein Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259252269 J * yarihm ~yarihm@office-zrh.youngsolutions.ch 1259252622 J * thierryp_ ~thierry@80.48.104.3 1259252827 J * jrklein ~jrklein@adsl-75-6-7-108.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net 1259253012 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259254368 Q * thierryp_ Quit: ciao folks 1259255107 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1259255553 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d046196.adsl.hansenet.de 1259255748 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1259255753 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1259255928 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1259258738 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1259258880 J * hparker ~hparker@66.232.208.131 1259259142 J * malveo ~malveo@79.143.115.144 1259259307 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259259984 J * geb ~geb@250.4.82-79.rev.gaoland.net 1259260328 Q * zbyniu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259260531 Q * barismetin Quit: Leaving... 1259260612 J * hparker|laptop ~hparker@66.232.208.131 1259260732 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259260738 N * hparker|laptop hparker 1259260826 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1259260982 Q * ghislain1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259261202 Q * jrklein Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259261278 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1259261569 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1259262222 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1259262376 J * hparker ~hparker@66.232.208.131 1259263639 J * jrklein ~jrklein@adsl-69-154-108-240.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net 1259264532 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection 1259264891 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de 1259264927 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1259265735 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1259266542 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1259267036 J * yarihm ~yarihm@guest-docking-nat-1-006.ethz.ch 1259267064 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1259267068 M * Bertl back now ... 1259267118 M * Mr_Smoke Wb :) 1259267137 M * fback 'evening, Bertl! 1259267140 M * Mr_Smoke Any feedback so far on the latest grsec merge ? 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