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1258073822 M * puck mathx:  search google for "munin vserver"
1258074773 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1258075063 J * yepsen\rauchen ~yepsen@pdbn-5d826504.pool.mediaWays.net
1258075070 M * yepsen\rauchen i search for a gentoo 64bit image
1258075195 M * yepsen\rauchen have
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1258087072 M * mathx puck: yeah will do.
1258087136 M * mathx http://munin.projects.linpro.no/wiki/PluginCat
1258087168 M * puck mathx: :)
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1258091530 M * eja is there a recommended distro for vserver?
1258095211 J * kbad_ ~root@ps4629.dreamhost.com
1258095240 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1258095244 M * Bertl morning folks!
1258095298 M * Bertl eja: no, not really, any host distro is supposed to work, and many guest distros can be directly built (with util-vserver) but again any distro is supposed to 'work' as guest too
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1258095359 M * fback morning Bertl! :)
1258095469 M * kbad_ morning!
1258095613 J * balbir ~balbir@122.248.161.59
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1258096786 M * eja bertl: any host is s'posed to work with xen as well but it seems some run more smoothly than others.  just wondering if the case is the same with vserver
1258096857 M * Bertl not really, you need to replace the kernel and build util-vserver, once that succeeded, it doesn't really matter
1258096886 M * Bertl of course, some distro specific oddities might make life harder (or easier) depending on what you want
1258096945 M * Bertl building rpm guests for example require you to have rpm installed, for yum based distros, you need yum, getting a working yum on dpkg based distros might be trickier than on rpm/yum based ones
1258097044 M * Bertl eja: xen supports a small number of hardware architectures, Linux-VServer OTOH, supports _all_ linux hardware platforms
1258097110 M * eja is there an easiest distro to get started with for vserver?  it looks like ubuntu and centos have vserver kernels built already.  i'd like to play around with it some and do some testing
1258097143 M * Bertl IIRC, there is/was? a knoppix CD with Linux-VServer support
1258097242 M * eja do you happen to know if vserver has any problems with openafs?  openVZ didn't handle the openafs module too well so i eventually ended up abandoning it
1258097287 M * Bertl is it part of the kernel or an external module?
1258097331 M * Bertl (sounds like the predecessor of andrew filesystem to me :)
1258097338 M * eja external module.  
1258097349 M * sid3windr Bertl: why, is afs closed? ;)
1258097355 M * sid3windr hehe
1258097369 M * Bertl eja: it might need some adjustments then, but only minor ones to work
1258097378 M * eja i was pretty impressed with openAFS.  kinda surprised it's not used more, especially in linux environments
1258097408 M * eja it required a patch to work with openVZ but i couldn't get it to work and the patch was for an older version as well.  
1258097439 M * Bertl but coming from OpenVZ, the question for the 'best distro' sounds logical :)
1258097738 M * Bertl anyway, Linux-VServer is a lot less intrusive, so you can expect it to play nice with many other patches .. for a filesystem, I'd expect you need a few modifications to get the full feature set though ...
1258097777 M * eja i liked openVZ a lot... the no openAFS was a deal breaker though.  hopefully vserver will work
1258097880 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1258098307 M * Bertl Linux-VServer (as the project is called :) will provide roughly the same feature set, but with a different perspective on maintainance and configuration
1258098480 J * davidkarban ~david@199.123.broadband11.iol.cz
1258098914 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-209-136-134.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net
1258099364 M * Bertl okay, I'm off for now .. bbl
1258099368 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1258111170 J * urbee ~urbee@93-103-199-233.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net
1258111171 M * urbee hi
1258111184 M * urbee i'm tryin to open port 443 on a specific IP
1258111191 M * urbee but it does not seem to work
1258111212 M * urbee iptables -A INPUT -d <IP> -p tcp --dport 443 -i eth0 -j ACCEPT
1258111218 M * urbee this is the rule i'm using
1258111259 M * urbee DROP       all  --  0.0.0.0/0            91.185.208.2
1258111259 M * urbee REJECT     all  --  0.0.0.0/0            91.185.208.2        reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
1258111263 M * urbee got this added too
1258111266 M * urbee what am i doing worng
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1258112840 M * yepsen\rauchen how can i creat the tun/tap deivce?
1258112843 M * yepsen\rauchen *device
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1258117555 J * uva bno@114-45-232-75.dynamic.hinet.net
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1258120620 J * tokkee tokkee@osprey.tokkee.org
1258121299 M * ghislainocfs2 yepsen\rauchen: it seems the tools can create them for you, see http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html and search tun/tap
1258121335 M * ghislainocfs2 yepsen\rauchen: of course this mean you alllready know how to create them on a normal linux and this explain how to create them with vserver automaticaly
1258121676 J * hparker ~hparker@208.4.188.201
1258122712 J * ghislainocfs21 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1258127450 J * biz ~biz@node2.cluster1.pyrox.eu
1258127592 M * biz Hi, I need some help regarding dist-upgrading my guest distributions, namely Ubuntu Jaunty to Ubuntu Karmic -- it's more like a question about the init-style
1258127606 M * biz After reporting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/454783
1258127617 M * biz I'm now getting this when trying to upgrade:
1258127642 M * biz Your system appears to be a virtualised environment without an init daemon, e.g. Linux-VServer. Ubuntu 9.10 cannot function within this type of environment, requiring an update to your virtual machine configuration first.
1258127675 M * biz What's the suggested way to do that?
1258128366 M * Bertl_oO there should be a wiki page regarding upstart (by now)
1258128421 M * biz I've switched to "plain" init style, will that suffice?
1258128454 M * biz http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues
1258128495 M * biz ... I didn't find that earlier, thanks for the hint
1258128819 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1258128835 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-5-128.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1258129186 M * biz Bertl_oO: eww, so I've switched to plain, upgraded the vserver, followed the entry in the wiki and removed the obsolete upstarts and added the vserver.conf file. Now I exit the vserver, issue "vserver foo stop" and get:
1258129202 M * biz vserver 'foo' is not running
1258129277 M * biz also, `vps aux` doesn't show any processes left running in it's context
1258129353 M * biz so I assume it's really not running, probably upstart wasn't able to start while upgrading (because all configs were still there)
1258129357 M * hparker Ugh... Trying to bind mount a file from the host to a guest, not getting very far.. In the fstab for the guest I have '/var/log/mail.log /vservers/mail.pcsrvc.com/var/log/mail.log none bind,ro 0 0' .. I touched mail.log from within the guest.. It remains empty
1258129389 M * hparker Even after restarting the guest
1258129440 M * biz is /vservers/... the path within the guest?
1258129476 M * biz AFAIK you need an entry like "/path/in/host/system /bind/to/path/relative/to/guest/root none bind 0 0"
1258129513 M * hparker hrrmm
1258129518 A * hparker changes things
1258129544 M * hparker And now that I look at the two bind mounts above what I added, I believe you're right :P
1258129549 A * hparker finds more coffee
1258129627 M * biz Bertl_oO: so finally I end up with: vserver foo start
1258129629 M * biz init: missing runlevel
1258129629 M * biz Try `init --help' for more information.
1258129735 M * hparker hrrmm... Still no go
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1258129820 M * biz hparker: is bind mounting a file new or something? I thought it was possible only with directories
1258129870 J * dowdle ~dowdle@153.90.196.250
1258129888 M * hparker man mount lists it
1258129936 A * hparker really needs to learn to say "the mount man page" rather than "man mount" :P
1258130022 M * biz "After this call the same contents is accessible in two places. One can also remount a single file (on a single file)." ... indeed. Weird, somehow I must have missed that :D
1258130039 M * hparker ;)
1258130067 J * dna_ ~dna@175-195-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
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1258130499 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1258130564 J * smash smash@newton.uk.to
1258130641 M * smash anyone's got 2.0.36.24 working? the binary doesnt seem being bootable here (grub err: 13)
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1258130892 J * xdr ~xdr@h-238-74.A219.priv.bahnhof.se
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1258131573 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx
1258132046 M * yepsen\rauchen how is the initstyle?
1258132155 M * biz who do you ask? ;)
1258132300 M * yepsen\rauchen i search in gentoo the initstyle..
1258132474 J * AnOnJoe ~jhenry1@195.83.225.167
1258132678 J * kbad ~kbad@ps4629.dreamhost.com
1258132756 M * kbad Bertl_oO: I seem to be hitting the same oomkiller problem on 2.6.29.6 (vs2.3.0.36.14-grsec2.1.14-20090709) 
1258132871 M * harry kbad: possibly... 
1258132879 M * harry there's a bug that the pax team is looking at atm...
1258133030 M * kbad I'm actually not using the pax features
1258133035 M * kbad just grsecurity stuff
1258133054 M * kbad I can try a non grsec 2.6.29.6 vs2.3 though
1258133585 M * harry hmmm...
1258133603 M * harry so it's a grsec problem... that changes stuff.. it means i have to bug spender with it!
1258133614 M * harry can you send me your config, so i can debug it ?
1258133672 M * kbad yeah, I'll email it to you a few got some networking fun going on this morning
1258133701 M * kbad we have a good line of communication with brad because we support his project too fyi
1258134073 M * yepsen\rauchen initstyle :(
1258134102 M * hparker yepsen\rauchen: If you're asking what init style to use in Gentoo, I use gentoo
1258134114 M * kbad openrc?
1258134119 M * hparker But that requires baselayout2/openrc in the guests
1258134140 M * hparker Not sure if plain will work with baselayout1
1258134187 M * biz yepsen\rauchen: http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:InitStyles
1258134541 M * biz Ubuntu's upstart really starts annoying me :(
1258134778 M * biz if upstart's /sbin/init detects it's not pid 1, then it launches /sbin/telinit, which itself needs a runlevel as an argument
1258134799 M * biz so since util-vserver doesn't call /sbin/init with a runlevel argument, I've tried this:
1258134808 M * biz vserver foo start --rescue /sbin/telinit 3
1258134816 M * biz telinit: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
1258134843 M * biz so the upstart dbus stuff is not started automatically... something is broken here
1258135228 J * matthew-_ ~ms@ns2.wellquite.org
1258135524 M * harry kbad: ah, nice :)
1258135534 M * harry then you can also bug him with it ;)
1258135577 A * harry gotta go now... rugby practice...
1258136543 M * hparker If anyone has an answer to my query (google has been no help) please hilight me, I've got to afk for a while.. Thanks!
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1258139341 M * biz https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/482292
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1258140597 M * kwowt hi
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1258148403 J * zlb blizzard@internet-media-center.com
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1258154161 J * elops ~lhabs@77.42.225.169
1258154168 M * elops is it me or you can't run shutdown -h now on a vserver?
1258154180 M * elops is it possible the flag for shutdown isn't enabled?
1258154188 M * elops or something about flags
1258154253 M * elops is there any1 that can help me plss?
1258154456 M * elops I cant find any docs
1258154459 M * elops Anyone?
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1258154918 M * smash I am still looking for anyone that got the current experimental branch working tho
1258154963 J * jrklein ~jrklein@adsl-75-34-93-82.dsl.wchtks.sbcglobal.net
1258155210 Q * elops 
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