1256515785 J * Hurga nobody@dslb-088-078-062-088.pools.arcor-ip.net
1256516530 M * Hurga Hi... I'm in the process of migrating my vserver installation to a new machine and the vserver-stat  from util-vserver-0.30.215 seems to display things a bit differently... not sure if that's ok.
1256516558 M * Bertl well, no, that's why there have been newer releases in the last two years :)
1256516575 M * Hurga I don't see a roos server context 0 anymore, and the processes of my first gues seem to be lumped together with thiose of the root server.
1256516764 M * Hurga would be nice if someone could have a look at the output. http://pastebin.com/m5d2d93aa
1256516806 M * Hurga Bertl: uh, have there been newer releases than util-vserver-0.30.215? It was the last one I found. 
1256516847 M * Bertl about 30 or so, see: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/
1256516921 M * Hurga wah. 
1256517293 Q * xdr Quit: Lost terminal
1256517520 M * Hurga well, installing the new version was more trouble, but the output still looks the same.
1256517545 M * Hurga running util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2849 now.
1256517552 M * Bertl it is expected that only guest contexts are shown
1256517574 M * Hurga ok - but I don't have 59 processes in contect 10.
1256517623 M * Bertl sure about that?
1256517676 M * Hurga root@amigan:/# ps ax | wc -l
1256517676 M * Hurga 13
1256517760 M * Bertl and ps ef | wc -l ?
1256517777 M * Hurga root@amigan:/# ps ef | wc -l
1256517778 M * Hurga 5
1256517798 M * Hurga root@amigan:/# ps -ef | wc -l
1256517798 M * Hurga 13
1256517942 M * Bertl still the vserver-stat shows about 59?
1256517957 M * Hurga right.
1256517964 M * Bertl what kernel do you use? version/patch?
1256517973 M * Hurga 2.6.27.35-vs2.3.0.36.6
1256517994 M * Bertl that should be fine, did you restart the guests since you updated util-vserver?
1256518011 M * Hurga Yes, whole server actually
1256518140 M * Bertl hmm, can't reproduce here ... what does 'vps auxwww' list?
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1256518232 M * Hurga vps ax | grep amigan | grep -v grep | wc -l
1256518232 M * Hurga 7
1256518249 M * Hurga vps ax thinks it's all ok.
1256518279 M * Bertl double check that vserver-stat is from the new util-vserver
1256518288 M * Bertl (and not left over from the old one)
1256518348 M * Hurga util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2849/src/vserver-stat 
1256518348 M * Hurga CTX   PROC    VSZ    RSS  userTIME   sysTIME    UPTIME NAME
1256518348 M * Hurga 10      59 479.1M  10.9M   0m00s40   0m00s70  14m16s14 amigan
1256518404 M * Bertl okay, let's upload the /proc/virtual/10/* files (the contents)
1256518467 M * Hurga you want "ls /proc/virtual/10/*" right?
1256518499 M * Bertl nope, I want the contents of the files 
1256518630 M * Hurga http://tigress.com/hurga/proc/
1256518709 M * Bertl so, the kernel indeed sees 59 processes (tasks and threads) inside the guest
1256518801 M * Hurga but vps ax doesn't...
1256518850 Q * Thorsten Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1256518914 M * Bertl well, it doesn't show the threads, at least not with the proper options
1256519057 M * Hurga root@amigan:~# ps -eLf | wc -l
1256519057 M * Hurga 65
1256519073 M * Hurga *sigh* OK, thanks. Nice pitfall.
1256519091 M * Bertl np, it's sometimes confusing
1256519116 M * Hurga especially when the old util-vserver didn't show it.
1256521549 J * scientes ~scientes@174-21-206-199.tukw.qwest.net
1256522897 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection)
1256526049 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180195096.adsl.alicedsl.de
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1256529625 J * saulus_ ~saulus@d003081.adsl.hansenet.de
1256529951 M * Bertl off to bed now ... night everyone!
1256529956 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1256540826 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1256540914 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45
1256541529 J * dna_ ~dna@240-196-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1256543846 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-209-179-131.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net
1256544261 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1256545371 J * barismetin ~baris@wlab34.inria.fr
1256545706 J * davidkarban ~david@199.123.broadband11.iol.cz
1256548121 J * fLoo ~fLoo@2001:6f8:119b:ffff::1
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1256548353 J * fLoo ~fLoo@2001:6f8:119b:ffff::1
1256549067 M * ncopa is there some trick to let "wall" write to vserver guests?
1256549098 M * ncopa forexample if UPS is shutting down the host
1256549243 P * kir Leaving.
1256549288 M * blathijs ncopa: vserver foo exec wall '...' ?
1256549306 M * ncopa requires that wall is installed in guest
1256549324 M * blathijs Yup
1256549339 M * blathijs Dunno if there is another trick
1256549592 M * ncopa vserver foo exec "for i in /dev/pts/*; do echo \"$msg\" > \$i; done"
1256549786 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving.
1256549970 M * blathijs doesn
1256549975 M * blathijs doesn't look too elegant :-p
1256549992 M * ncopa thats why i asked ;)
1256550312 M * ncopa would be nice with a vwall application or something
1256550345 M * BWare vserver bar exec 'for USR in `who | awk '{print $1}'`; do write '$MSG' $USR; done
1256550543 M * blathijs BWare: I think any shell script for this is ugly for the same reason there exists a "wall" executable in the first place :-)
1256550560 M * blathijs ncopa: Perhaps you should have a look around in the wall sourcecode, see what it does exactly
1256550992 M * ncopa well
1256551008 M * ncopa i was just curious what you guys does for ups shutdowns
1256551030 J * yarihm ~yarihm@office-zrh.youngsolutions.ch
1256551042 M * ncopa would be kinda nice if the guests got a notification that the server is going down
1256551780 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1256555031 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1256556824 J * hparker ~hparker@204.120.8.72
1256558089 J * xdr ~xdr@h-238-74.A219.priv.bahnhof.se
1256558395 J * doener_ ~doener@i59F57653.versanet.de
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1256558953 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1256558957 M * Bertl morning folks!
1256558985 M * ncopa morning
1256559000 M * ncopa brb
1256559003 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat
1256559076 M * Bertl blathijs: haven't checked that yet, but did you try to run wall in xid=1?
1256559201 M * blathijs Dunno, it wasn ncopa's problem, not mine :-)
1256559273 M * Bertl i.e. simply do vcontext --migrate --xid 1 -- wall
1256559281 M * Bertl ah, okay, nevermind then :)
1256559360 M * blathijs He'll probably comes back :-)
1256559399 M * blathijs s/comes/come/
1256559631 J * SubZero ~SubZero@chello089076140236.chello.pl
1256560061 M * Bertl welcome SubZero!
1256560493 M * SubZero aloha!
1256562096 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: i have the first package for util-vserver  0.30.216-pre2849 :)
1256562117 M * ghislainocfs2 anybody want to test them on his production architecture ?
1256562119 M * ghislainocfs2 :D
1256562300 M * Bertl sure, but I already have built some mandriva packages from the tar :)
1256562323 M * ghislainocfs2 mine are debian lenny :)
1256562357 M * Bertl I'm sure somebody will test, just post an url on the ML
1256562373 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl
1256562378 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1256562402 M * ghislainocfs2 k, i tested one on me and this works fine ...for now :)
1256563115 M * ghislainocfs2 daniel_hozac: if you can tell me the 5 most basic troubles people get in util-vserver tools i could add check in the package for those common question to be covered
1256563136 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: same than for daniel if you have the top questions i can chek
1256563157 M * ghislainocfs2 i thinked of a check for 0.0.0.0 in /etc/sshd/sshd_config
1256563177 M * ghislainocfs2 other ideas are welcomed
1256564997 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
1256565084 Q * SubZero 
1256565479 J * Piet ~piet@04ZAABR06.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1256565894 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving
1256566554 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1256566611 M * geb hi
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1256567758 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
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1256569207 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1256569207 Q * thierryp_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1256569250 J * hparker ~hparker@204.120.8.72
1256569695 J * _nono_ ~gomes@libation.ircam.fr
1256569741 J * orzel ~orzel@sylphide-consulting.com
1256569884 M * geb Bertl_oO, do you have opened a page about the stabilisation process (statut , needed stuffs etc) ?
1256570309 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1256570477 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-150-83.dclient.hispeed.ch
1256571626 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
1256572234 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks
1256574576 Q * BWare Quit: *p00f*
1256575848 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1256575852 M * Bertl back now ...
1256575912 M * Bertl geb: not yet, had too much work to do, but should happen this week
1256576113 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
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1256577961 J * Hurga nobody@dslb-088-078-062-088.pools.arcor-ip.net
1256578271 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1256579438 J * urbee ~quoteS@BSN-143-211-175.dial-up.dsl.siol.net
1256579448 M * urbee i just noticed my guest vserver doesnt have the same time as host machine
1256579451 M * urbee its one hour late
1256579459 M * urbee and icant change it with 'date' inside guest
1256579471 M * urbee Mon Oct 26 17:54:03 UTC 2009
1256579478 M * urbee Mon Oct 26 18:55:29 CET 2009
1256579494 M * urbee where/how can i change the date in guest
1256579534 M * ghislainocfs2 this seems to be timezone related
1256579541 M * ghislainocfs2 see iff the time zone are the same
1256579553 M * ghislainocfs2 oh stupid of me this is on your text
1256579561 M * ghislainocfs2 you have to setup the timezone of the guest
1256579600 M * ghislainocfs2 tzconfig should do the trick for debian
1256579625 M * sid3windr no
1256579628 M * sid3windr dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
1256579628 M * sid3windr ;)
1256579643 M * sid3windr tzconfig is deprecated
1256579655 M * sid3windr (but running tzconfig would tell you it's dpkg-r... now ;)
1256579693 M * urbee great
1256579700 M * urbee could this be the issue some of my mails are very late?:)
1256579793 Q * barismetin Remote host closed the connection
1256580022 Q * Pazzo Quit: Bye!
1256580035 M * Bertl urbee: unlikely, at best, they should get delivered with the wrong timestamp
1256580197 M * ghislainocfs2 urbee: check your sendmail config, default are queue running every hours
1256580533 Q * mrfree Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1256581206 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: with recent kernels with vserver i got segfault in php, of course i do not know if this is vserver related, just wanted to know if on your recent work you found issue that could have created segfaults ?
1256581284 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: everything works fine but apache segfault regulary. I guess this si something else than vserver but i am kinda lost to track this so just to know :)
1256581485 M * Bertl recent kernels means?
1256581568 Q * orzel Remote host closed the connection
1256581851 M * Hurga ifup for ipv6 interfaces fails if ipv6 is not built as a module but statically... gods
1256582149 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: mean .6.29.6-vs2.3.0.36.14
1256582407 M * Bertl try with a recent one :)
1256582413 M * ghislainocfs2 lol
1256582475 M * ghislainocfs2 got them also in 2.6.31.3-vs2.3.0.36.18 but this is host 32bit with kernel 64 and guest 32...so perhaps it's normal that i am beaten by something eheh
1256582525 M * Bertl did you set the personality?
1256582931 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1256582935 A * ghislainocfs2 checking this
1256582989 M * ghislainocfs2 (root)>  more /usr/local/etc/vservers/mpweb3/uts/machine
1256582990 M * ghislainocfs2 i686
1256582995 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: this ?
1256583011 M * Bertl nope, that's not the best idea
1256583045 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl:  hoops i did it again.. what would be the best idea ?
1256583052 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html (search for personality)
1256583058 M * ghislainocfs2 k
1256583131 A * ghislainocfs2 guess PER_LINUX32 seems good but will google before using it
1256583442 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: i guess anyway that using 8gb of ram on a 32bit guest is just doing nothing
1256583478 A * ghislainocfs2 searching about PER_LINUX_32BIT and memory on a 8gb machine
1256588227 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host104-137-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
1256589565 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.22.17
1256589723 A * Hurga wonders if there's a way to hide syslog messages like "vxW: [ ps ,12396:#20|20|20] did lookup hidden devpts:ffff8800f93a1d40[#0,2]  /dev/pts."
1256589811 M * Bertl yeah, you can disable them in the kernel config
1256589927 M * Hurga CONFIG_VSERVER_WARN I guess... ok, thanks
1256590183 M * Bertl do you get that many?
1256590365 Q * scientes Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1256590533 M * Hurga Bertl: well, every time I call ps inside a guest... I'm not sure if it might clutter syslog so much that I overlook something important, or if it'll eventually pprovide me with important info. 
1256590549 M * Hurga Currently I'm just too lazy to recompile :P
1256590570 M * Bertl you mean, when you call ps _after_ entering a guest (via enter)
1256590596 J * scientes ~scientes@174-21-206-199.tukw.qwest.net
1256590740 M * Hurga right.
1256590893 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-219-168-66.dclient.hispeed.ch
1256590989 M * Hurga BTW, about the link with the personality info... I'm currently running 32 bit guests with a 64 Bit kernel. Is it a problem when I don't configure personality? I never did before, and i have machines at work running that way for a long time without problems.
1256591023 M * Bertl well, depends, if the guest binaries do not try strange things, it should be fine
1256591084 M * Hurga ok.
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1256592990 J * blues ~blues@agh75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
1256593110 Q * blues_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1256594208 M * ghislainocfs2 hurga: hey i do the same but php segfault :(
1256594444 M * Hurga got to test that later... 
1256594499 M * Hurga BTW, are the segfaults being logged? 
1256594504 M * Bertl ghislainocfs2: check the coredump
1256597779 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1256597784 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1256597793 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend
1256597901 M * mathx darn
1256597903 M * mathx missed him by 2 minutes!
1256597909 M * mathx need some vhashify help :/
1256597929 M * mathx once ive vhashified a vserver how do I create an identical clone of it?
1256597938 M * geb vserver build -m clone
1256597941 M * geb ;)
1256597967 M * mathx never used any of the vserver cmds to create vservers, usually always have seperate customers who want their own setup, so i just newvserver --options
1256597971 M * mathx give them a whole new distro
1256597982 M * mathx (and install a minimal system so not much wasted space, they're going to customize it anyway)
1256597994 M * mathx in this case, i have a copy of a production machine i want to see what going to lenny will break
1256598008 M * geb newvserver is just a wrapper for vserver $x build 
1256598010 M * mathx so i want to clone it but mostly the _DATA_ on the server is what takes the space on disk, so I vhash'd it
1256598025 M * geb and this wrapper is sometimes considered as deprecated
1256598029 M * mathx really
1256598035 M * mathx has good options!
1256598039 M * mathx but ill read up o it
1256598042 M * mathx *on
1256598049 M * mathx in the mean time, i need to see all the data in this server too from the main server
1256598058 M * mathx how do I make two vservers see the SAME exact files and use the hash set?
1256598084 M * geb you can clone vservers with vserver build -m clone
1256598102 M * geb (but if you modify one, they will'nt keep the exacts files)
1256598120 M * mathx right thats the idea
1256598120 M * mathx i want it to Copy on write 
1256598123 M * mathx it'll do that automagically?
1256598153 M * mathx so far all it looks like it did was cp -l every file into a $hash filename in .hash
1256598157 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1256598523 M * geb sorry, i was away
1256598541 M * mathx vserver build -m clone -n foolenny
1256598546 M * mathx Can not find a vserver-setup at '/etc/vservers/build/'.
1256598551 M * geb -m clone is able to use links done via hashify
1256598563 M * geb so it is really rapid :)
1256598589 M * geb http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems#Building_guests_using_the_clone_build_method
1256598631 M * mathx thx
1256600203 J * QMan ~QMan@gateway.qsolutions.org