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1256429557 J * dsoul darksoul@insomniac.pl
1256433227 M * fLoo ok
1256433249 M * fLoo i've just finished my tutorial about Linux-Vserver + lighttpd + php5 + openvcp + ipv6 support
1256433250 M * fLoo http://www.coresec.de/2009/10/linux-vserver-debian-lenny-openvcp-ipv6-mit-sixxs/
1256433255 M * fLoo if anyone might be interested
1256433263 M * fLoo thanks for your help daniel_hozac and all the others
1256433383 J * mmouse ~mmouse@office.haefft-verlag.de
1256433411 Q * mmouse 
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1256433833 J * yepsen ~yepsen@pdbn-5d824338.pool.mediaWays.net
1256434608 M * hparker fLoo: Why not add it to linux-vserver.org?
1256434910 M * fLoo ahm
1256434919 M * fLoo u can understand what i've written ?
1256434928 M * fLoo its german
1256434950 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1256434951 M * fLoo anyway where to add it there ?
1256435269 M * hparker heh... No, I don't understand German :P Maybe see if someone can add a link and maybe someone can translate it for you
1256435529 M * fLoo well
1256435536 M * fLoo i speak more or less fluent english
1256435547 M * fLoo so i am able to translate it myself if needed
1256435551 M * hparker Way better than my German :P
1256435562 M * fLoo hehe
1256435571 M * hparker I'd say it'd go on the Documentation page
1256435593 M * fLoo would be cool
1256435595 M * hparker If you put it there and there is a better place I'm sure someone will move it
1256435600 M * fLoo took me like 2 hours to write it
1256435604 M * hparker Ouch
1256435607 M * fLoo its pretty detailed
1256435620 M * fLoo even dummies can install it now
1256435632 M * fLoo its like vserver-linux in a nutshell ;)
1256435633 M * hparker I'll read the translated version, otherwise I'll get lost in the translation at google :P
1256435636 M * hparker Nice
1256435646 M * fLoo kk
1256435651 M * fLoo will head up for a translation
1256435655 M * fLoo gimme 2 more hours ;)
1256435658 M * hparker ipv6 is something I've been wanting to add
1256435660 M * hparker hehehe
1256435663 M * fLoo well
1256435672 M * fLoo with sixxs and a /48 subnet it works just perfectly
1256435683 M * hparker I've got a /64 from he.net atm
1256435693 M * fLoo every vserver has its own public ipv6 adress now
1256435697 M * fLoo no routing required
1256435701 M * fLoo and all behind nat
1256435714 M * hparker But I can get a /48 if I want
1256435721 M * fLoo well i am a sixxs customer for 3 years now - so i enjoy pretty much previlegies
1256435722 M * hparker ipv6 and NAT? :P
1256435731 M * fLoo yep works :)
1256435738 M * hparker DNAT or SNAT?
1256435742 M * fLoo d
1256435754 M * fLoo my host-node is behind a firewall and routed network enviroment
1256435759 M * hparker Ahh
1256435782 M * fLoo but cause its an ipv4to6 tunnel it works just perfectly for my local network
1256435808 M * fLoo and the best thing is - i've learned every freaking shit just in 1 day (today)
1256435809 M * hparker I see
1256435813 M * hparker ;)
1256435832 M * fLoo now its time to get more into detail with the further development of this kind of virtualisation
1256435836 M * fLoo used vmware esxi before
1256435844 M * fLoo but vserver-linux is WAY more comfortable
1256435852 M * hparker And a lot less overhead
1256435856 M * fLoo yep
1256435862 M * fLoo like 50 % less load on the node
1256435879 M * hparker As long as all you need is linux guests it's great.. And that's all I need so far
1256435882 M * hparker I bet
1256435887 M * fLoo yep
1256435900 M * fLoo i only use linux for my server enviroment in here
1256435908 M * fLoo windows is just for my work and university purposes
1256435927 A * hparker avoids 'doze unless it's where it belongs, in a VM
1256435952 M * fLoo :)
1256435959 M * fLoo i need it for several other belongings
1256435965 M * fLoo for example photoshop and premiere
1256435984 M * fLoo anyway - here is a screenshot of my envirement inclusive ipv6
1256435985 M * fLoo http://www.coresec.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/vserver1.jpg
1256435999 M * hparker I'm considering installing 7 native on this old laptop to see how it handles it
1256436019 M * fLoo works pretty good - installed it for testing purposes on my sony vaio (1 ghz, 512 mb ram)
1256436021 M * fLoo ran fluently
1256436035 M * hparker Nice screenie
1256436063 M * hparker I've only ran it in vmware workstation, but it didn't load the system any harder than XP does so that's good
1256436068 M * fLoo but switched back to ubuntu cause sniffing wlans is WAY more comfortable under linux ;)
1256436083 M * hparker I'll duel boot
1256436092 M * fLoo i've only got 40 gb harddrive
1256436094 M * fLoo no dualboot
1256436095 M * fLoo haha
1256436102 M * hparker That's all this is :P
1256436111 M * hparker Old amd64 3200 laptop
1256436124 M * fLoo well - more power than mine :)
1256436139 M * arachnist my not-so-old laptop has 1.2GHz core2duo and 64GB ssd
1256436156 M * hparker I'm hoping the 8 gig partition I have is enough for 7
1256436165 M * hparker Vista told me off :P
1256436180 M * arachnist mine came with vista buisness 32bit
1256436192 M * fLoo lol
1256436194 M * fLoo 8 gb - fun
1256436199 M * fLoo 7 takes 7.5 gb ;)
1256436213 M * hparker Well, as you said... the drive is only 40 :P
1256436217 M * arachnist out of the 64GB, 20GB was used up by the stuff installed on it by default
1256436223 M * fLoo like - 1 gb free after installing patches and creating system restore point :P
1256436251 M * arachnist (that was the last time that laptop saw an ntfs partition)
1256436267 M * hparker I won't mess with restore points, I won't be adding anything and other than updates it'll probably never see the Internet
1256436292 M * hparker I have a computer repair shop so need to be familiar with it is all
1256436492 M * fLoo lol
1256436511 M * fLoo as said previously - i use windows cause its a must-have nowadays
1256436518 M * fLoo if you work for companies and/or a university
1256436546 M * fLoo several programs simply require windows - and my development will be done on *nix/linux platforms anyway
1256436548 M * hparker I guess
1256436556 M * fLoo atleast the java / c / perl / .. shit
1256436592 M * hparker i've managed to use linux only for 10+ years ;) (Other than learning where M$ decided to move things in the new releases)
1256436643 M * fLoo may i ask how old u r ?
1256436669 M * hparker 46
1256436690 M * fLoo oh
1256436693 M * fLoo i am 25 :)
1256436702 M * hparker Same age as my oldest kid
1256436740 M * fLoo hee
1256436762 M * fLoo u were 21 when getting ur first kid - pretty fast
1256436775 M * fLoo i'm planning my first children when i'm like 30
1256436778 M * hparker Uhm... Yeah
1256436780 M * Bertl_oO I do neither need nor use windows ... so the must-have doesn't apply here
1256436789 M * hparker Then you're 50 when they move out :P
1256436795 M * fLoo ya
1256436797 M * fLoo :)
1256436813 M * fLoo atleast my gf is younger :)
1256436817 M * hparker Though i'll be.. like 55 when my youngest moves out :P
1256436821 M * fLoo this keeps me feeling i am as young as her ;)
1256436823 M * hparker Bertl_oO: ;)
1256436834 M * fLoo Bertl_oO ?
1256436839 M * Bertl_oO an we are really off-topic here, aren't we?
1256436841 M * fLoo thought he is afk :)
1256436849 M * fLoo ofc we are
1256436853 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1256436853 M * hparker Bertl_oO: We're busted :P
1256436869 M * hparker It kind of drifted... Just a bit
1256436874 M * fLoo #vserver-offtopic pls ;)
1256436894 M * fLoo anyway - Bertl - are you interested in my tutorial ?
1256436905 M * fLoo or might there be interested by the community about the content ?
1256436909 M * fLoo *interest
1256436911 M * hparker I need to afk anyways.. Let me know if you get that ranslated
1256436917 M * hparker traslated even
1256436921 M * hparker ARRGGHH
1256436926 M * fLoo yep i'll
1256437031 M * Bertl fLoo: url?
1256437051 M * fLoo http://www.coresec.de/2009/10/linux-vserver-debian-lenny-openvcp-ipv6-mit-sixxs/
1256437053 M * fLoo its german
1256437060 M * fLoo idk if you'll understand it
1256437068 M * fLoo translating to english at the moment
1256437087 M * fLoo but afaik you are from austria
1256437324 M * Bertl the quoted part (commands) is unreadable here
1256437362 M * Bertl i.e. it's cut off in the middle
1256437448 M * fLoo wait
1256437454 M * fLoo gonna create a png for you
1256437601 M * Bertl hmm? I mean the text/code is cut off
1256437604 M * fLoo ya
1256437606 M * fLoo 1 sec
1256437634 M * fLoo http://www.coresec.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/post.png
1256437636 M * fLoo there u g
1256437637 M * fLoo *go
1256437643 M * Bertl why change /vservers to /home?
1256437662 M * fLoo i changed it vice versa
1256437667 M * fLoo i changed /home to /vservers
1256437675 M * fLoo cause /vservers is my raid array
1256437734 M * Bertl ahem, is this a joke? I mean both, the png and the placement ... :)
1256437770 M * fLoo why ?
1256437864 M * Bertl mostly because I do not think that 'postings' should be provided as images
1256437886 M * fLoo yes
1256437891 M * Bertl there is a perfectly fine standard to provide information on the web, called HTML :)
1256437892 M * fLoo but i just created a png so you can read anything
1256437915 M * fLoo i dont know why its not displayed properly for you, i am sorry for that
1256437916 M * Bertl yeah, but that is only necessary, because you messed up the HTML
1256437928 M * fLoo its wordpress - not me
1256437930 M * fLoo :)
1256437965 M * Bertl doesn't make it better :)
1256437979 M * Bertl anyway, back to the /vservers vs /home?
1256437989 M * fLoo whats up with that ?
1256437995 M * fLoo i prefer /vservers
1256438009 M * fLoo but anyone is up to take his own choice
1256438042 M * Bertl --with-vrootdir=/home
1256438057 M * Bertl why even suggest that?!
1256438083 M * fLoo to make sure people append this
1256438097 M * Bertl ahem, why should they, and why /home?!
1256438128 M * fLoo afaik (i've learned all this stuff today) its needed to tell util-vserver where to create the vserver root directories
1256438136 M * fLoo and /home is just an example
1256438148 M * Bertl there is a perfectly fine default, /vservers
1256438153 M * evilhackerdude hrm, is there a debian package for a 2.6 kernel with vserver and grsec?
1256438180 M * Bertl I kind of doubt that, but maybe somebody has
1256438181 M * fLoo Bertl : didnt know - but doesnt matter, i can comment that line so people know if not set its just the default
1256438201 M * fLoo and if set they can define the vserver root themselfes
1256438231 M * fLoo evilhackerdude : i've got one without grsec if needed
1256438235 M * Bertl I'm just worried, that after debian putting that into /var/lib/vservers (which doesn't relly make sense, just complicates things), now we get _another_ setting?
1256438265 M * fLoo well as said before - its up to the person installing it
1256438286 M * fLoo maybe there are other people with raid arrays mounted to /raid who wants the vservers installed in /raid/vservers
1256438292 M * Bertl there are things better left out in tutorials or at least mentioned as _option_ but not (how to do it .. with wording like ... and don't forget to set ....)
1256438328 M * fLoo yep, i shortened some parts, its the first version i am up for any contributions
1256438333 M * Bertl because I'm pretty sure, everybody who uses that tutorial will end up with all guests in /home
1256438352 M * fLoo but they should atleast read "Darauf achten, dass man –with-vrootdir=/home an das gewünscht Rootverzeichnis für die VServer anpasst!"
1256438353 M * Bertl and they will show up here, asking why this or that doesn't work as expected :)
1256438371 M * fLoo i've written that in bold and pink !
1256438372 M * fLoo lol
1256438420 M * Bertl do it the other way, add something like: (if you really need to change the place where guests are installed by default, you can use .... ) write it in grey and small :)
1256438434 M * fLoo haha
1256438444 M * fLoo i better do that ya :)
1256438523 M * Bertl the sysctl stuff should be done by the main 'util-vserver' runlevel script
1256438551 M * fLoo so its not needed anymore ?
1256438577 M * Bertl I can't remember when it was needed
1256438581 M * fLoo k
1256438585 M * fLoo gonna wipe that part then
1256438600 M * Bertl replace it by the 'util-vserver' runlevel script
1256438662 M * Bertl 3. OpenVPN: glieder sich <-- typo
1256438683 M * fLoo thanks
1256438746 M * fLoo http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Debian even says the same
1256438747 M * fLoo :)
1256438755 M * Bertl btw, regarding util-vserver, dietlibc is default, so no need to enable it
1256438779 M * fLoo ok
1256438813 M * Bertl yeah, should probably be changed, but OTOH, the debian folks usually need to change it to /var/lib/vservers
1256438847 M * Bertl but yes, I see you copied from there, which doesn't seem to be the best source :)
1256438859 M * fLoo hehe
1256438947 M * Bertl the best solution would be to test the install/setup without --enable-release and --enable-dietlibc (probably without --with-vrootdir=/home as well) and with the util-vserver runlevel script, and if that turns out as I expect, change the tutorial _and_ the wiki to reflect that
1256438986 M * Bertl Danach sollte der Aufgruf <- next typo
1256439017 M * fLoo ok
1256439038 M * Bertl leuft! comes from 'laufen' :)
1256439044 M * fLoo yaya
1256439049 M * fLoo did u even take a look at the clock ? :P
1256439081 M * Bertl yes, early in the evening :)
1256439108 M * fLoo haha true :)
1256439121 M * evilhackerdude +zeitverschiebung ;-)
1256439135 M * Bertl btw, it should be Linux-VServer not VServer or vserver :)
1256439138 M * fLoo germany -> austria isnt that kind of difference :)
1256439149 M * Bertl BUT here :)
1256439156 M * fLoo arent u in austria ?
1256439214 M * Bertl yes, BUT = Bertl's Universal Time 
1256439256 M * Bertl i.e. it's morning when I get up, and night when I hit the sack :)
1256439284 M * Bertl /<dein_vserver_pfad/images <- missing '>'
1256439316 M * Bertl einen VServer  -> means 'Guest'
1256439410 M * fLoo yep
1256439418 M * fLoo edited all the vserver to linux-vserver and to guest
1256439494 M * Bertl 'zu spendieren können' nicht seien gutes deutsch (bad german :)
1256439592 M * Bertl Linux-VServer not linux-vserver or Linux-Vserver or VServer or vserver (or any other combinations, although we are used to folks getting that wrong :)
1256439650 M * fLoo k
1256439650 Q * SauLus Read error: Connection reset by peer
1256439660 M * Bertl erstellen von Linux-VServern -> erstellen von Linux-VServer Guests (or just 'Guests')
1256439677 J * saulus ~saulus@c192124.adsl.hansenet.de
1256439709 M * fLoo 4 Schritt (Erstellen von Linux-VServer-Guest-Images)
1256439713 M * fLoo already edited :)
1256439739 M * Bertl no idea why Images, but yeah better than before :)
1256439765 M * Bertl (probably because you 'need' to use photoshop :)
1256439773 M * fLoo lo
1256439795 M * fLoo images because these arent working guests, these are images which are the sources for the guests
1256439859 M * Bertl so they are Templates?
1256439871 M * fLoo ya
1256439876 M * fLoo one could call them templates
1256439920 M * Bertl okay, well, get the stuff translated into english, and put it on the wiki, I'll have another look at it then ...
1256439930 M * fLoo ok thanks for you help
1256439939 M * Bertl thank you for the tutorial!
1256439940 M * fLoo will translate it tomorrow and put it on the wiki
1256439953 M * fLoo you're welcome - you helped me too with that stuff
1256440121 M * Bertl np
1256440131 M * fLoo kk gonna take some sleep now
1256440136 M * fLoo gonna c u tomorrow then
1256440137 M * fLoo bbl
1256440169 M * Bertl cya
1256440524 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving.
1256440724 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp118-209-179-131.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net
1256442095 Q * nenolod Quit: fucking ubuntu
1256442297 J * nenolod ~nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org
1256442357 Q * nenolod 
1256442507 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection)
1256442513 J * nenolod ~nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org
1256443231 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c135197.adsl.hansenet.de
1256443254 J * evilhack1rdude ~stephan@e181070206.adsl.alicedsl.de
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1256443650 N * saulus_ SauLus
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1256447744 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1256447749 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1256448140 J * hparker ~hparker@204.120.8.72
1256449158 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection)
1256451788 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180192089.adsl.alicedsl.de
1256454812 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1256455834 J * l403 ~l@85.132.159.239
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1256461269 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-76-105-242-186.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1256462197 J * evilhackerdude ~stephan@e181094046.adsl.alicedsl.de
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1256468635 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
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1256470492 J * blues ~blues@acvx14.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
1256470612 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1256470739 J * dinux ~revilo@exile.dinux.de
1256471932 J * doener ~doener@i59F56756.versanet.de
1256471938 J * xdr ~xdr@h-238-74.A219.priv.bahnhof.se
1256472029 M * fLoo good morning #vserver
1256472034 M * arachnist moin
1256472036 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1256472894 J * urbee ~quoteS@BSN-142-165-37.dial-up.dsl.siol.net
1256472896 M * urbee hi
1256473424 M * yepsen +>!^
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1256474782 J * manana mayday_554@84.17.25.144
1256474809 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-103-150.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr
1256475345 J * fLoo_ ~fLoo@2001:6f8:119b:ffff::1
1256475348 Q * fLoo 
1256475351 N * fLoo_ fLoo
1256475666 J * fLoo_ ~fLoo@2001:6f8:119b:ffff::1
1256475666 Q * fLoo Read error: Connection reset by peer
1256475674 N * fLoo_ fLoo
1256475904 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1256478115 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1256478221 M * fLoo anyone ever had the error "'vserver ... suexec' is supported for running vservers only; aborting..."
1256478227 M * fLoo installed gentoo using a template
1256478232 M * fLoo it starts up just fine
1256478242 M * fLoo but after trying to enter it with "vserver vserverXY enter"
1256478246 M * fLoo it crashes
1256478259 M * arachnist fLoo: you need something that'll keep running inside
1256478291 M * arachnist fLoo: sshd or lighttpd will do
1256478302 M * fLoo ok
1256478309 M * fLoo how to get things in it when i cant enter a gentoo vm ?
1256478319 M * fLoo i am new to gentoo - just want to see how gentoo images are beeing installed in a vm
1256478356 M * arachnist fLoo: bind-mount proc, dev, sys; chroot, install whatever you want; umount proc dev and sys
1256478381 M * arachnist fLoo: if you happen to use paludis on your gentoo, you might also need /dev/pts
1256478409 J * hparker ~hparker@204.120.8.72
1256478411 M * fLoo thanks
1256478871 M * urbee I'd like to block some IPs for all guest vservers including host machione
1256478871 M * urbee iptables -I INPUT -s 89.174.79.182 -j DROP
1256478875 M * urbee is this the correct way?
1256479237 M * fLoo yes
1256479270 M * urbee god damn syn flood attacks
1256479308 M * fLoo yep
1256479324 M * geb hi
1256479327 M * fLoo hi geb
1256479719 Q * urbee 
1256480345 P * arachnist 
1256480799 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1256483625 Q * yepsen 
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1256486265 J * doener ~doener@i59F56756.versanet.de
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1256488489 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5
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1256491092 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
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1256491694 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1256491698 M * Bertl morning folks!
1256492172 M * pmjdebruijn mornin
1256492420 J * larsivi ~larsivi@37.80-202-217.nextgentel.com
1256492540 Q * l403 Quit: Wikipedia is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay#Generalized_pejorative_use
1256493671 J * dna_ ~dna@240-196-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1256493848 M * fLoo hey Bertl
1256493862 J * evilhackerdude ~stephan@e181094046.adsl.alicedsl.de
1256494948 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1256495137 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180192089.adsl.alicedsl.de
1256495479 J * thierryp_ ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
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1256496605 J * xadalt ~root@ti541210a341-0784.bb.online.no
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1256498150 M * arekm blahm
1256498345 Q * fLoo Remote host closed the connection
1256498410 J * fLoo ~fLoo@2001:6f8:119b:ffff::1
1256500844 Q * fLoo Read error: Connection reset by peer
1256501469 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection
1256501751 J * fLoo ~fLoo@2001:6f8:119b:ffff::1
1256501920 Q * fLoo Remote host closed the connection
1256502059 J * fLoo ~fLoo@2001:6f8:119b:ffff::1
1256502110 Q * Bertl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1256502286 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:470:e056:1:4::9
1256502305 M * fLoo what might be the problem when i cant see how much space i used in my guest ?
1256504143 J * Bertl herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at
1256504429 J * evilhack1rdude ~stephan@e181094046.adsl.alicedsl.de
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1256505011 J * dude ~adr@78-86-228-51.zone2.bethere.co.uk
1256505043 N * dude Guest423
1256505175 M * Guest423 hi all, am a bit stuck with vserver...having issues running strongswan/openswan...guess I can't figure out which flags etc. it needs...can any1 help?
1256505414 M * Bertl what's the problem?
1256505536 M * Guest423 well first off it looks to load modules.dep...
1256505608 M * Bertl openswan?
1256505612 M * Guest423 I get a bit further by copying the modules dir tree from the host into the vserver...but then it complains about missing ipsec modules....
1256505629 M * Bertl don't do that, no point in 'loading' modules in a guest
1256505662 M * Guest423 first tried strongswan, than saw openswan was meant to work so gave that a shot as well but essentially the same problem in both cases...
1256505663 M * Bertl (well, unless you want to render any security obsolete)
1256505700 M * Bertl I can't believe that strong/openswan does anything with modules.dep
1256505726 M * Bertl it might require a kernel module, but certainly you loaded that on the host beforehand, no?
1256505757 M * Guest423 here's what it says "Starting strongSwan 4.2.4 IPsec [starter]...FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64/modules.dep: No such file or directory"
1256505837 M * Guest423 well actually wanted to set it up directly on the host but am already running openvpn there and seems I'm hitting a bug only just fixed in unstable (am running debian squeeze though..)
1256505927 M * Guest423 well wasn;t sure which module...found at least one of them and loaded it b4hand but the ipsec startup script complains it can;t find I think NET_KEY and asomething else...need to check..\
1256506096 M * Bertl well, openvpn works perfectly fine inside a guest
1256506131 M * Bertl anyway, first, check that the startup script? doesn't do stupid things, like trying to load kernel modules or similar
1256506167 M * Bertl then, if that is not the problem, run it with strace -fF to find what kernel system call gets rejected
1256506192 M * Guest423 that's a good point will check it..
1256506434 M * Guest423 thanks I think that puts me on the right track. 
1256506478 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1256506543 J * blues_ ~blues@avy41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
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1256507602 M * geb lsof: WARNING: can't stat() proc file system /home/vserver/internalexception.tl.byme.at/proc
1256507622 M * geb hum, somebody know how lsof was able to get the vserver path ?
1256507791 M * Bertl interesting, what kernel/patch version?
1256507846 M * geb ... debian's one
1256507877 M * Bertl okay, well ... let me know if that can be reproduced with a working version :)
1256507983 M * geb http://195.88.84.39/vs/
1256508011 M * geb uname -a tell me: Linux test.toile-libre.org 2.6.26-1-vserver-amd64
1256508072 M * Bertl check /proc/mounts inside the guest
1256508139 M * geb http://195.88.84.39/vs/mounts
1256508167 M * geb  /etc/vservers/$name/fstab is classical
1256508189 M * Bertl see, there you are, /proc/mounts should not contain entries with the full path
1256508224 M * Bertl you can add that to the long list of bugs for that kernel (on the wiki, or by reporting to micah)
1256508250 M * geb huhu
1256508265 M * geb you don't reproduce it on another version ?
1256508389 M * Bertl not really, but let me check ...
1256508503 M * Bertl 2.6.28.x fine, 2.6.29.x fine, 2.6.31.x fine didn't check 2.6.27.x but should be fine too
1256509222 M * geb :)
1256509575 M * Bertl of course, 2.6.22.x works fine as well :)
1256509887 M * geb ...
1256509888 M * geb i should have bet :)
1256509897 M * geb i have to leave, good night ;)
1256509916 M * Bertl cya
1256510060 J * evilhackerdude ~stephan@e181094046.adsl.alicedsl.de
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1256511628 J * Thorsten ~Thorsten@dslb-084-058-098-025.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1256512527 J * Thorsten ~Thorsten@dslb-084-058-098-025.pools.arcor-ip.net
1256512627 M * ghislainocfs21 hello there
1256512677 M * ghislainocfs21 if i build a vserver package for the last version of vserver, should i put --enable-apis=v23
1256512686 M * Thorsten Hi together. Which kernel version and which vserver path do you currently recommend?
1256512686 M * ghislainocfs21 or will it be too restrictive
1256513259 M * Bertl Thorsten: 2.6.31.x and the latest util-vserver pre should be fine
1256513286 M * Bertl Thorsten: if you want to go for ultra stable, pick 2.6.22, if you are just conservative, take 2.6.27.x
1256513367 M * Thorsten So I could for example use 2.6.31.5 and http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.31.5-vs2.3.0.36.21.diff ?
1256513377 M * Bertl exactly
1256513395 M * Thorsten Experimental sounds a bit scarry, but I'll try ;-)
1256513436 M * Bertl we are in a stabilization phase, so less scary atm :)
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