1255479034 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1255479085 J * ard ~ard@shell2.kwaak.net
1255479531 Q * Shinsaku 
1255481266 M * mugwump is there an easy way to 'ionice' a whole vserver?
1255481333 M * daniel_hozac /etc/vserers/guest/<ionice>/{class,priority}
1255481345 M * daniel_hozac well, with less typos.
1255481346 M * daniel_hozac :)
1255481373 M * mugwump oh.  Is there a better place than the vserver flower page for util-vserver configuration these days?
1255481384 M * daniel_hozac no, the great flower page is it.
1255481386 M * mugwump I didn't see that on there
1255481398 M * daniel_hozac i suppose i should update it more often than every release.
1255481419 M * Bertl yep, please do so :)
1255481450 M * Bertl btw, did you, by any chance, have a look at the file --bind mount patch?
1255481468 M * daniel_hozac yeah, it's merged.
1255481506 M * Bertl excellent! thanks a bunch!
1255481514 M * daniel_hozac thank you
1255481724 M * Bertl my pleasure!
1255482886 M * pinochle daniel_hozac: any ideas from the pastebin i sent you yesterday?
1255485226 Q * jpic Quit: Lost terminal
1255489216 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c193076.adsl.hansenet.de
1255489572 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1255489625 Q * saulus Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255489632 N * saulus_ SauLus
1255491439 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255492405 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1255492411 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1255492494 J * johnj ~john.edu@90-227-146-24-no147.tbcn.telia.com
1255492575 M * johnj I desire tips on how to improve the design of my site www.jimem.netii.net
1255492610 P * johnj 
1255493009 Q * ghislainocfs21 Quit: Leaving.
1255493726 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.80.33
1255494379 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com
1255495190 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1255495822 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255496884 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255498585 J * awk ~phillip@gw1.security.web.za
1255498626 M * awk morning all, back with some new issues.. hmmm, asterisk inside of a guest... I have to disable use tty inside safe_asterisk... thing is then I get no colors.. CAPS can I add to the guest for it to use the tty's?
1255499530 M * awk never mind worked it out :D
1255499768 J * samv ~samv@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz
1255499791 M * samv I've got a machine on which 'ls -l /proc', as well as ps, vtop etc are hanging
1255499795 M * samv however I have a shell on it
1255499804 M * samv 2.6.27.36-vs2.3.0.36.6
1255499871 M * samv oh, so does 'ls' in /var/log.  joy
1255499986 M * samv oh, it finished finally
1255499987 M * awk any idea what this warning is about http://pastebin.com/m7525704f don't seem to quite understand it
1255500113 M * awk [root@pbx dev]# mknod tty0 c 4 0
1255500114 M * awk mknod: `tty0': Operation not permitted ..... hmmm, doesn't make sense.. under my bcaps I have SYS_TTY_CONFIG
1255500118 M * samv I couldn't get much out of it.  I ran 'ls' under strace a couple of times, those finished
1255500134 M * samv awk: you need CAP_SYS_ADMIN or something for that iirc
1255500151 M * samv normally, make the specials you need from the host
1255500287 M * awk thanks will try it...
1255500294 M * awk just wish there was a 'more limited' way of doing it..
1255500306 M * samv allowing mknod is a can of worms
1255500338 M * awk I enabled SYS_ADMIN
1255500347 M * awk and still permission denied trying to make a nod
1255500368 M * samv right.  well, look at the capability.h
1255500386 M * samv ah.  CAP_MKNOD
1255500400 M * samv at least, on this source
1255500432 Q * mugwump Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255500449 M * awk is it /etc/vservers/_name_/bcaps or /etc/vservers/_name_/bcapabilities 
1255500459 M * awk the file I should add MKNOD and SYS_ADMIN, etc?
1255500470 M * samv either that or ccaps
1255500482 M * samv you can test with vattribute
1255500490 M * awk I mean short or long form
1255500496 M * samv check the flower page
1255500531 M * awk http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1255500537 M * awk I am... doesn't give me what I want...
1255500567 M * awk found it http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Capabilities_and_Flags
1255500569 M * samv http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html
1255500573 M * samv search for ccap
1255500604 M * samv it's 'bcapabilities', spelt out in full
1255500678 M * awk ok well then its not listening to me saying SYS_ADMIN
1255500684 M * awk as I still dont have perm to create a nod
1255500690 M * samv MKNOD is the one you want
1255500698 M * samv it used to be SYS_ADMIN
1255500701 M * awk I have that set under bcaps too
1255500709 M * samv and you've restarted the vserver?
1255500727 M * awk SYS_ADMIN MKNOD SYS_TTY_CONFIG
1255500733 M * awk I have all those set each under a new line
1255500782 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1255501107 P * samv 
1255501179 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255501700 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1255502874 J * todo HydraIRC@89.72.37.91
1255503562 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
1255503587 M * arekm ehm ? vcontext: bad personality flag 'linux_32bit'
1255504827 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1255505890 M * _Shiva_ awk: btw - i have totally given up on colors in Asterisk console - as those ANSI chars are also logged (!)...
1255506854 Q * manana Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255508091 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1255508295 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149
1255508685 M * awk _Shiva_: If I can just create a tty I will get my colors...
1255508690 M * awk I hope :D
1255509075 J * thierryp ~thierry@zanzibar.inria.fr
1255509138 M * awk tell me has echo default > mark changed?
1255509144 M * awk as it doesn't start my vserver on boot
1255509342 M * sid3windr poor mark
1255509350 M * sid3windr (afaik it hasn't changed, no..)
1255509369 M * PowerKe are you sure you're running the vserver startup script?
1255509409 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave
1255510203 J * Shinsaku ~Shinsaku@chello089076140236.chello.pl
1255510367 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
1255510530 M * awk :P
1255510597 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1255510601 M * Bertl morning folks!
1255510630 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1255510664 M * awk morning
1255510676 M * awk thats not your real time is it?
1255510678 M * awk 10:57?
1255510791 M * Bertl real time? :)
1255510841 J * davidkarban ~david@199.123.broadband11.iol.cz
1255510931 M * Bertl anyway, MKNOD should allow you to create nodes inside the guest, but for security reasons, I'd suggest to avoid that ... and you can set it at runtime too
1255510994 M * Bertl mugwump: heya, sounds like your system started trashing or something?
1255511076 Q * Shinsaku 
1255511261 M * awk Bertl: your time in your location...
1255511273 M * awk Bertl: well mknod doesn't seem to do the trick for me? any specific reasons why?
1255511398 M * Bertl check that you actually _have_ that set for your guest, and if, run strace -fF mknod /tmp/zero c 1 5 and upload somewhere
1255511506 M * Bertl arekm: hmm, does your system have that personality (also, what kernel/patch and util-vserver)?
1255511623 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1255511624 M * mugwump Bertl: trashing?
1255511640 M * mugwump the load wasn't high
1255511665 M * mugwump I didn't explicitly check for VM exhaustion, but I didn't see any signs of that - login was fast
1255511686 M * mugwump sadly I couldn't get a crash dump or anything useful like that :(
1255511690 J * harobed ~sklein@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net
1255511702 M * harobed hi, I use debian lenny with vserver kernel and ipv6 is enabled by default
1255511708 M * harobed do you know how can I disable ipv6 in apt ?
1255511745 M * mugwump harobed: try a vs2.3.x kernel, not the debian lenny kernel
1255511749 M * mugwump then IPv6 works
1255511778 M * arekm Bertl: asked the same question but didn't got reply (yet). It's not mine system
1255511781 M * mugwump there is a way to turn off IPv6 for all services in nsswitch.conf I think
1255511787 M * mugwump or some related file
1255511801 M * arekm Bertl: It's 64bit system and I guess IA32_EMULATION is off in it
1255511809 M * harobed mugwump, ok I look in rsswitch.conf
1255511824 M * Bertl arekm: likely
1255511938 J * Shinsaku ~Shinsaku@chello089076140236.chello.pl
1255512028 M * harobed well, I found nothing about ipv6 in nsswitch.conf
1255512079 M * mugwump no
1255512085 M * mugwump well, you could unload the ipv6 module
1255512102 M * mugwump it's not actually /etc/nsswitch.conf, it's some other similar file
1255512102 M * harobed no, it is in the kernel
1255512116 M * awk Bertl: is there a way I can see on the fly if its enabled? I have read http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Capabilities_and_Flags && http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1255512120 M * awk no luck
1255512140 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks
1255512294 M * awk http://pastebin.com/m4c7a99c1
1255512296 M * mugwump harobed: cat     hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
1255512300 M * mugwump bah
1255512303 M * mugwump synergy fail
1255512309 M * mugwump cat /usr/share/doc/libnss-mdns/README.Debian
1255512382 M * mugwump In my nsswitch.conf it says:
1255512383 M * mugwump # If you have the `glibc-doc-reference' and `info' packages installed, try:
1255512383 M * mugwump # `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file.
1255512400 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1255512440 M * harobed ok then I need to use "hosts:          files dns mdns4" ?
1255512463 M * mugwump I think removing 'dns' might do the trick
1255512482 M * mugwump possibly even just using files mdns4_minimal
1255512489 M * mugwump the info pages seem scant
1255512514 M * mugwump I'm in one of those rare places where IPv6 actually works
1255512631 M * harobed if I remove dns, nothing work !
1255512675 M * mugwump darn
1255512755 M * harobed well, I've another question : I think I've this bug http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?25547 on my box
1255512756 M * Bertl awk: vattribute --xid <num> --get
1255512783 M * harobed I've this vserver version : vserver 0.30.216-pre2772
1255512821 M * harobed I think this error is fixed… but sometime my partition switch to readonly mode
1255512869 M * harobed this patch is include or exluded in my version ?
1255513270 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1255513273 M * Bertl_oO bbs
1255515851 J * scientes_ ~scientes@174-21-162-3.tukw.qwest.net
1255515919 Q * scientes_ 
1255516201 J * uva bno@118-160-166-250.dynamic.hinet.net
1255516533 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1255517062 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.248.163.1
1255517239 N * morrigan_oO morrigan
1255517568 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1255517600 M * JonB my hosts servername is suddently set to the name of the guest?
1255517647 J * dna ~dna@69-205-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1255518026 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1255518037 M * Bertl JonB: too new kernel, too old util-vserver :)
1255518051 M * Bertl JonB: means: your guests are not really isolated
1255518181 M * Bertl harobed: I do not even understand the bug report ... care to elaborate?
1255518688 M * harobed I can't reproduce the bug
1255518716 M * harobed in my box, sometime my main partition switch to readonly
1255518716 M * Bertl partitions can switch from rw to ro, when you have some filesystem inconsistancies
1255518735 M * Bertl or errors on the underlying block device
1255518736 M * harobed I don't know if it's vserver issue or hardware issue
1255518740 M * Bertl check with dmesg
1255518758 M * harobed I nothing about that in my dmesg
1255518771 M * harobed smart tools say no problem
1255518785 M * Bertl what filesystem?
1255518789 M * harobed ext3
1255518813 M * Bertl kernel version?
1255518829 M * harobed Linux hosting12 2.6.26-1-vserver-686 #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 21:04:35 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
1255518836 M * harobed on Debian Lenny
1255518861 M * JonB Bertl: uh oh, i will fix now
1255518869 M * Bertl harobed: well, that kernel is known to be broken ... mainline, the debian version and the Linux-VServer patch used ...
1255518910 M * harobed what ? this kernel is stable package version
1255518921 M * harobed Bertl, what I need to use ?
1255519060 M * Bertl probably the best choice is 2.6.27.x (long term maintained) or 2.6.31.x (bleeding edge, but gets all the fixes atm :)
1255519086 M * harobed Bertl, well I'm reading syslog and I don't have ext3 error 
1255519093 M * _Shiva_ Debian "stable" may also pronounced as Debian "stale" ;-)
1255519119 M * harobed Bertl, do yon know if there are debian package with this version ?
1255519120 M * Bertl but be carefull, the brokeness of that debian kernel will require you to fix guest permissions (barrier) and unification attributes if you change to/from it
1255519153 M * Bertl yes, there should be a bunch of debian packages around, check the ML archives for locations
1255519322 M * harobed the table isn't update ? http://linux-vserver.org/Downloads
1255519338 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:470:e056:1:4::9
1255519368 M * harobed 2.6.27 is a experimental branch
1255519665 M * _Shiva_ harobed: actually, your are already usinf the experimental branch (<- of vserver that is) on your Debian Kernel - and it's even more experimental than the patch you get from that table
1255519710 M * _Shiva_ harobed: the Kernel 2.6.27 however ist stable (as your 2.6.26 has been considered "sta(b)le" by Debian)
1255519875 M * harobed what package do you use ? do you install vserver kernel from source code ?
1255519910 M * _Shiva_ harobed: http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Debian (<- and be sure you read all of the page)
1255521502 J * doener_ ~doener@i59F5BF3C.versanet.de
1255521603 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255522138 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
1255522950 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1255522999 Q * JonB Quit: Leaving
1255523055 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1255523178 M * JonB Bertl: is 0.30.215 new enough
1255523237 Q * Shinsaku 
1255523273 M * daniel_hozac no.
1255523389 M * JonB daniel_hozac: util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2849.tar.bz2 23-Sep-2009 16:26  711K  Patches
1255523389 M * JonB  ?
1255523459 M * daniel_hozac better.
1255523468 M * JonB that is the newest one, right?
1255523665 M * daniel_hozac well, trunk is newer, but that's the latest tarball.
1255523806 M * JonB okay, thanks
1255525582 N * fb fback
1255526196 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255526986 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.248.163.1
1255527591 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1255528060 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255528517 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave
1255528776 J * urbee ~dssd@internet-213-229-198-28.narocnik.mobitel.si
1255528777 M * urbee hi
1255528790 M * Bertl hi :)
1255528800 M * urbee I'm having an issue with some webmail client - and i'm suspecting its something 'host machine' related
1255528809 M * urbee ERROR Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost.
1255528809 M * urbee 1 : Operation not permitted
1255528829 M * daniel_hozac sounds like iptables.
1255528833 M * urbee its like it cant connect to localhost, i'm having this problem on both guests running webmail
1255528859 M * urbee i got iptables installed
1255528861 M * urbee but no rules or anything
1255528902 M * daniel_hozac 2.3 kernel without AUTO_LBACK?
1255528906 M * urbee ssh localhost
1255528906 M * urbee ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Operation not permitted
1255528916 M * urbee umm, sec
1255528966 M * urbee  2.6.29-vs2.3.0.36.14-gentoo
1255528973 M * urbee without auto_lback, like u said
1255529035 M * BWare check /etc/hosts
1255529041 M * BWare and netstat -nl
1255529053 M * urbee on guesT?
1255529066 M * BWare netstat -nl will show you to what address the daemon listens to (yes on guest)
1255529099 M * BWare and point /etc/hosts (on the guest) to that address
1255529100 M * urbee hosts seems fine
1255529113 M * BWare and point localhost in /etc/hosts (on the guest) to that address
1255529124 M * urbee http://nopaste.org/p/arrYFYK6b
1255529124 M * daniel_hozac if you have no auto_lback, you're not going to be able to connect to 127.0.0.1
1255529148 M * urbee daniel_hozac, i disabled it the last time we talked and i had an issue with it :P
1255529159 M * daniel_hozac no, you had an issue with auto_single.
1255529176 M * urbee i guess i disabled both
1255529206 M * JonB daniel_hozac: which NSS does util-vserver require? i can not see it in the REQUIREMENTS file
1255529225 M * urbee daniel_hozac: so i enable auto_lback and it should work?
1255529825 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection
1255529868 M * urbee thx
1255529993 M * JonB daniel_hozac: never mind
1255530245 M * awk Bertl: http://pastebin.com/m4e1c0d61
1255530255 M * awk its there?
1255530340 J * Shinsaku ~Shinsaku@chello089076140236.chello.pl
1255530624 M * awk so strange.. wonder why after I have mknod enabled I can't create devices... just permission denied.
1255530635 M * daniel_hozac awk: CONFIG_VSERVER_DEVICE?
1255530637 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
1255530765 M * awk hmm, enabled in the kernel? I am using the kernel from baseurl=http://rpm.hozac.com/dhozac/
1255530773 M * awk let me check my .config
1255530782 M * daniel_hozac then yes.
1255530793 M * daniel_hozac you'll have to setup the device map to allow you to create devices.
1255530803 M * awk CONFIG_VSERVER_DEVICE=y
1255530811 M * daniel_hozac see vdevmap --help
1255530975 M * awk ahh, so must create apps/vdevmap/*/* ?
1255531013 M * awk sec, think i got it
1255531019 M * Bertl if you have device mapping enabled, yes
1255531074 M * awk vdevmap --xid 45 --set --open --create --target /dev/tty1
1255531079 M * awk ?
1255531409 M * daniel_hozac that covers char devices.
1255531512 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1255531774 Q * urbee Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255531906 M * awk plz just send me in the direction of a documentation :D
1255531911 M * awk so I can try understand this a bit better
1255531916 M * awk its very advanced
1255532868 M * awk google is not being very friendly\
1255533314 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255533980 Q * kir Quit: Leaving.
1255534752 M * awk worked it out :D
1255535256 M * awk might just stay up2date with what is happening, instead of trying to catch up ever 2 years or so :P
1255535392 Q * JonB Quit: Leaving
1255535703 Q * Shinsaku 
1255535806 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@80.85.196.112
1255536139 M * Bertl awk: yeah, especially as you have to learn everything anyways :)
1255536256 M * awk correct, this vdevmap is awsome :D
1255536268 M * awk so on the fly I can allow device creation then just stop it again
1255536278 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.6.48
1255536538 M * awk anyway im stocked im back in the vserver way of life again :D
1255536851 M * awk YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have colors inside asterisk now :D
1255536883 M * awk _Shiva_: I know you gave up trying if you need help let me know :DD
1255537159 M * _Shiva_ awk: *g* it's not that i do not get colors in *-CLI - but the ANSI chars that _produce_ the coloring get logged in e.g. /var/log/asterisk/verbose, too... and _that's unreadable :)
1255537235 M * _Shiva_ . o 0 ( nearly as "unreadable" as the output coming from vserver to syslog..  scnr )
1255537571 M * _Shiva_ Bertl: what exactly is that encoding supposed to be anyway? looking at those wierd characters in a iso-8859-1[5] terminal there are three unreadable chars, looking at them in an utf8 terminal they appear as that <?> (<- under-determined utf8 char)..
1255537601 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1255537603 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat
1255537839 M * _Shiva_ Bertl: i mean those you've commented on pmjdebruijn's patch from 2009-10-07 @ 1254916249 ( http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2009-10/LOG_2009-10-07.txt ) 
1255537869 M * Bertl those are left and right pointing guillemets
1255537894 M * Bertl they are equivalent to upper and lower double quotes
1255537926 M * _Shiva_ Bertl: might be - but what encoding? :-)
1255537940 M * Bertl iso-8859-*
1255537958 M * Bertl the defacto standard before UTF was invented
1255537988 M * Bertl but you can simply consider them bytes 0xab and 0xbb
1255537999 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255538000 M * _Shiva_ hmm .. switching my (gnome-)terminal to iso-8859-15 and doing a "dmesg" they are unreadable.. i.e. apperaring as three chars
1255538032 J * Shinsaku ~Shinsaku@chello089076140236.chello.pl
1255538037 M * Bertl then your terminal is confused or misconfigured
1255538057 M * Bertl there is no 'three character' byte in iso-8859-15 :)
1255538079 M * _Shiva_ �
1255538100 M * Bertl you realize, that iso-8859-15 is a single byte encoding, yes?
1255538109 M * _Shiva_ yes :-)
1255538132 M * Bertl good, so something must have been messing with the bytes in a try to convert them to something
1255538145 M * _Shiva_ that's why displaying them in utf8 seems to be "under-determined" ..
1255538168 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave
1255538183 M * _Shiva_ . o 0 ( let's see what i get on tty1 .. )
1255538554 M * _Shiva_ nope - dmesg in plain bash on tty1 displays those *two* characters as *one* "filled diamond questionmark"-char
1255538597 M * Bertl then you are not using a proper encoding/locale and/or character set there
1255538614 M * _Shiva_ ant that's Gentoo with utf8/unicode/locale/whatever throughout
1255538637 M * Bertl trust me, they encode fine on iso8859, but they are somewhat messed up on utf8
1255538649 M * _Shiva_ "somewhat" :-)
1255538762 M * Bertl feel free to replace them by something more appropriate (UTF8 single char?) and submit a patch
1255538830 M * _Shiva_ Bertl: pmjdebruijn did and you rejected it..? sorry, no offense..
1255538874 Q * mrfree Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255538906 M * Bertl first, that patch only changed a subset of the used characters, and second, it loses functionality
1255539147 M * _Shiva_ ok - point taken ;-) (see: $topic) ;-)
1255539231 M * Bertl while I'm not going to apply such a patch, even if done correctly, atm, I think it might be useful for UTF8 folks (so it still would make sense to 'do it properly')
1255539451 M * _Shiva_ if one does not want to be based on any encoding, [s]he stays with 7bit ACSII, not? so using characters from the additional 8bit space *any* common encodung does matter,right?
1255539499 Q * Pazzo Quit: Bye!
1255539663 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1255539738 M * Bertl correct, the problem there is, the kernel uses 8bit characters for file and process names
1255539805 M * Bertl so, the given two/three characters from the upper character set are already suboptimal, but because they are rather unusual and thus mostly unused, they are fine for this purpose 
1255539839 M * _Shiva_ interesting.. but makes sense ;-) thanks
1255539870 M * Bertl the only characters not allowed for filenames are / and \0 .. where I'm not sure about the \0 :)
1255539974 M * _Shiva_ i like ^H or ^W being allowed ;-)
1255540036 M * _Shiva_ .. or \r .. 
1255540038 M * fback Bertl: I'm sure / is allowed in filename
1255540061 M * fback Bertl: afair the only disallowed character (in unix filenames) is \0
1255540072 M * daniel_hozac no, / is not allowed.
1255540097 M * _Shiva_ fback: not in FILEname - read: $(basename file)
1255540128 M * _Shiva_ maybe in "full-qualified-filename" ;-)
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1255540307 M * fback daniel_hozac: ok, so / was not allowed, while \0 was allowed
1255540731 M * _Shiva_ ;-) for completeness: "Unix-like systems are an exception, as the only control character forbidden in file names is the null character, as that's the end-of-string indicator in C. Trivially, Unix also excludes the path separator / from appearing in filenames." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename
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1255542128 M * fback _Shiva_: and long time ago even \0 was allowed :)
1255543465 M * _Shiva_ fback: those days... i've been using SLIP and (NCSA-)telnet to interface a shell prompt.. :-)
1255544355 M * fback _Shiva_: we had a terminal server running on some HP / HP-UX
1255544383 M * fback _Shiva_: and wyse serial terminals 8)
1255544516 M * fback and uplikk connection was 14400 modem-based DECnet ;]
1255544645 M * fback _Shiva_: and I remember myself wondering (it was 1995 or so) who the hell needs this html... those images, such a bandwith waste! ;)
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1255547472 M * Bertl back now ...
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