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1255060638 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1255060643 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1255062847 J * takeru ~takeru@nttkyo940214.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp
1255070024 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
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1255072172 J * todo HydraIRC@89.72.37.91
1255073798 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.85.196.112
1255074442 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B5B79.dip.t-dialin.net
1255074673 J * davidkarban ~david@199.123.broadband11.iol.cz
1255075440 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1255075454 M * Bertl morning folks ...
1255075587 J * BenG_ ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1255075590 Q * BenG_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1255075600 M * ghislainocfs2 morning
1255075605 M * BenG morning
1255075627 M * BenG Bertl, I'm compiling against the latest patch here, 2.6.31.3
1255075633 M * Bertl ghislainocfs2: ocfs2 and gfs2 could benefit from some testing ... :)
1255075634 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: if i have a 32 host, and i install a 64bits kernel wioth 32bit compatibility
1255075648 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: will the host work and this allow me to setup 64bits guests ?
1255075654 M * Bertl yes
1255075665 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: thanks !
1255075687 M * ghislainocfs2 for the ocfs2 i do not have anymore my labs (they run now live)
1255075697 M * Bertl but you might encounter some issues, as your tools need to be 64bit too
1255075704 M * ghislainocfs2 but i can try to find some old hardware
1255075706 M * ghislainocfs2 ah...
1255075728 M * Bertl well, they might just work, never tried that ...
1255075732 M * ghislainocfs2 but has the host is 32bits i cannot run 64bits tools on it no ?
1255075755 M * Bertl with a 64bit kernel, you can run 64bit userspace apps, no problem there
1255075777 M * BenG Bertl, I get a new kernel option involving hard limiting and CFS and hard sched, is this part of patch or part of upstream kernel?
1255075779 M * ghislainocfs2 lol i just add bunch of memory to an host so i wanted to migrate the guest to 64bits but i dont thionk you can upgrade a host to 64 bits like that
1255075792 M * Bertl BenG: both
1255075799 M * BenG cool
1255075827 M * Bertl BenG: it replaces the TBS with an upcoming CFS hard limit feature
1255075844 M * BenG excellent
1255075845 M * Bertl BenG: note, you also need to configure it differently
1255075853 M * BenG right
1255075860 M * BenG is that documented at all?
1255075878 M * Bertl yep, both in the kernel and on our wiki :)
1255075889 M * BenG do you mean I need to amend the .config?
1255075913 M * BenG or that the userland config is different?
1255075921 M * Bertl you need to move hard cpu settings to cgroup config, if you need/want hard cpu limits at all
1255075993 M * _Shiva_ ghislainocfs2: i migrated one of my hosts from 32bit (AMD Duron) to 64Bit (Athlon64 X2) recently by installing a new 64Bit distro on the new host and keeoing the old disks containing the original 32bit host
1255076028 M * BenG _Shiva_, yeah done that a number of times too
1255076055 M * _Shiva_ ghislainocfs2: the old "host" had been started as a 32bit guest on the new host and the applications were replaced one by one
1255076066 M * BenG actually the majority of the guests on the 64-bit systems I maintain are 32-bit
1255076093 M * _Shiva_ the other guests were started on the new host like usual
1255076248 M * _Shiva_ BenG: one of my asterisk servers had to be migrated to 64bit, though... it has been using the zaptel/dahdi kernel module from the host kernel.. and you can not interface a 64bit kernel module from a 32bit guest (at least not zaptel/dahdi)
1255076248 J * Piet_ ~piet@04ZAABCVN.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
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1255076290 M * BenG _Shiva_, we have an * server too, I'll just look what arch is at play
1255076327 M * BenG yeah, same situation here
1255076778 M * Bertl got to grab some groceries, bbl
1255076784 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1255077584 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
1255077749 M * ghislainocfs2 _Shiva_: i dont know how to upgrade the host to 64bit. I cannot reinstall the system as the guest can oinly be switched off for a few minutes
1255078011 J * lau ~laurent@AToulouse-157-1-54-148.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr
1255078018 M * lau hello
1255078045 M * lau i want to create a copy of a stopped vserver
1255078065 M * _Shiva_ ghislainocfs2: there's no "*upgrade* to 64Bit"
1255078076 M * lau i plan to use /usr/sbin/vserver-copy -i 192.168.5.100 web62 template
1255078084 M * lau but how can i set the context to 100 ?
1255078146 M * _Shiva_ ghislainocfs2: you may install the (new) 64Bit distro on a separate partition/drive via debootstrap or Gentoo Stage3/4 (<- depending on your choice of distro ;-))
1255078189 M * _Shiva_ ghislainocfs2: then reboot into the new installation (and cross your fingers that your setup is complete ;-)
1255078208 M * _Shiva_ that would minimize your downtime
1255078350 M * _Shiva_ ghislainocfs2: or set up a new 64bit host system on a separate harddisk on a separate host, then shut down your 32bit host, switch harddisks and boot into your new 64bit system
1255078381 M * _Shiva_ ("your mileage will vary" (tm)) ;-)
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1255078944 M * ghislainocfs2 _Shiva_: humm ok so boot 64bits kernel, debootstrap in a directory, change to boot on this directory..humm i would need to boot on a bind mount ! lol
1255078978 M * ghislainocfs2 as i have no spare partition (or play with the swap and pray)
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1255081761 P * Alteisen ( $foo )
1255081999 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
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1255083401 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1255083409 M * Bertl back now ...
1255083493 M * Bertl ghislainocfs2: should be no big deal with grub and serial console ... you have a serial console, no?
1255083601 M * Bertl time for a short nap ... bbl
1255083608 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1255083989 M * ghislainocfs2 bertl: the issue is that i do not have a console :p
1255084024 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
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1255094907 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
1255094999 M * lau hello is there any vserver way to clone a vserver except rsync ?
1255095255 M * Guy- has anyone tried the bfs scheduler with vserver?
1255095336 M * Guy- I see it was mentioned yesterday
1255095344 M * Guy- well, I'll try it if no one else has
1255095386 J * vServer_User_offhomeskis ~vServer_U@host90-152-0-28.ipv4.regusnet.com
1255095398 N * vServer_User_offhomeskis vServer_User
1255095409 M * pmjdebruijn Guy-: bfs as in ck?
1255095411 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1255095415 M * Bertl back now ...
1255095434 M * Bertl lau: hmm, the 'clone' build method?
1255095485 M * Bertl Guy-: let me know how it goes ... should be fine with 2.6.31.x
1255095603 M * Guy- Bertl: the patch seems to conflict with vserver 
1255095632 M * Guy- it tries to remove struct sched_class from include/linux/sched.h
1255095642 M * Guy- pmjdebruijn: yes
1255095669 M * lau hello Bertl: I am using 8.04 and when I vserver clone start I got the util-vserver bug :(
1255095701 M * Guy- but the kernel has int (*enqueue_task) (struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int wakeup); where the patch expects void (*enqueue_task) (struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int wakeup);
1255095717 M * Guy- this hints at a difference in underlying semantics that I'm not sure is safe to ignore
1255095747 M * Bertl Guy-: probably an upstream change, we included the hard cfs limits
1255095764 M * Bertl lau: util-vserver bug? what util-vserver version?
1255095808 M * Guy- Bertl: yes, I'm trying with 2.6.31.3
1255095817 M * Bertl Guy-: you can remove the entire hard CFS limits before, if you replace the scheduler anyways
1255095817 M * Guy- well, I'll wait until ck updates his patch
1255095843 M * pmjdebruijn Guy-: why would it be that interesting?
1255095857 M * pmjdebruijn Guy-: do you actually have problems with the mainline scheduler?
1255095893 M * Guy- pmjdebruijn: the bfs scheduler supposedly scales better when you have few processors; I have a box that is doing a lot with four cores, and I wanted to see if the bfs scheduler made a noticeable difference
1255095931 M * Bertl pmjdebruijn: the mainline scheduler got better, but it still is quite bad on desktop interactivity
1255095966 M * Bertl I wouldn't suggest to go for anything else than mainline for a server, but for a workstation ....
1255095990 M * lau 0.30.214-6build1 Bertl 
1255096004 M * Bertl get one which isn't three years old :)
1255096358 M * lau hum i see, you are suggesting me to build me own packet from util-vserver sources
1255096362 M * lau is it safe on prod ?
1255096381 M * lau I prefer to use distribution packager manager ...
1255096450 M * arekm switch to more recent distribution? ;>
1255096471 M * Bertl lau: or get a distro package which is newer
1255096687 J * ksn ~kuben@81.199.130.2
1255096832 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: even on a desktop it's not _that_ bad
1255096840 M * pmjdebruijn assuming you're into lowlatency audio or something
1255096850 M * pmjdebruijn but it could be better indeed
1255096946 M * Bertl even for 'normal' movie playback, you can easily hit one of the cornercases where the playback simply stops despite the fact that I/O and task priority is almost maxed out
1255096978 M * Bertl (just for a fraction of a second usually, but sometimes even for longer)
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1255098460 J * ksn ~kuben@81.199.130.2
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1255098506 M * ghislainocfs2 lau: i should provide some help for a package (debian) of util vserver soon if i can borrow some time
1255098537 M * ghislainocfs2 lau: i will make them available on a debian repo of a list member
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1255099235 J * Hunger ~Hunger@Hunger.hu
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1255100749 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: I added an explicit section regarding HW 'donations' to the wiki, I also added http://linux-vserver.org/Make_Bertl_Happy_Hardware_List ... you might consider doing similar ....
1255100753 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255101099 J * mog ~mog@c-68-62-169-247.hsd1.al.comcast.net
1255101109 M * mog hello
1255101134 M * mog what is the way to tell a vserver guest to use dhcp other than the older IPROOT=dhcp
1255101171 Q * Shinsaku 
1255101179 M * Bertl a guest cannot use DHCP, as the guest operates on the IP layer, and DHCP is below that
1255101214 M * mog there is a note in changelog as of 0.4.0 stating otherwise...
1255101216 M * Bertl but there are mechanisms to acquire an IP via DHCP _for_ the guest, and assign that very IP to the guest
1255101225 M * mog fine
1255101238 M * mog how would i  go about having that, i cant seem to find any examples etc
1255101259 M * Bertl hmm, let's see, sec ... morrigan: ping?
1255101377 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255101411 M * Bertl yeah, documentation seems to be almost non-existant on this topic, maybe because it is actually quite simple (but of course, it would help to write up a wiki page for that *hint*)
1255101452 M * Bertl basically you need a dhcp client, which can be run without messing with the interfaces (actually most of the existing ones allow that with a simple option)
1255101533 M * Bertl you also need to be able to provide/specify a client identifier, as the dhcp server will not provide more than one IP per ethernet/MAC without it
1255101559 M * Bertl (there are workarounds for that with virtual ethernet/mac setups)
1255101618 M * Bertl then you simply extract the necessary information either before guest startup or at runtime and feed it into the guest config/setup
1255101661 M * Bertl once the IP has been provided to the guest, everything works as expected
1255101888 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255101952 M * Bertl mog: btw, just curious, where did you find that 0.4.0 changelog?
1255102006 M * mog googled vserver and dhcp
1255102026 M * mog googled vserver and dhcp client *
1255102120 M * Bertl yeah, funny stuff, I see it .. is about 6-7 years old
1255102146 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: did any dhcp-client implementation make it into util-vserver (yet)?
1255102440 M * mog hmm i think i follow you Bertl thanks for advice
1255102459 M * Bertl np, let me know if you encounter any issues
1255102694 M * mog ya, i will.  its gonna take some experimenting.  fortunately i can use static ips at home so can work around for now
1255102886 M * Bertl depending on your actual needs, you might be fine with a single routed IP and several private (local) IPs for the guests (and S/DNAT of course)
1255103016 M * mog that could work too, this is for my laptop so i can dev on clean environments. but didnt want to go through hassel of setting that up.  and prefer them having dhcp addresses, and i think i can just write script that will pull a different dhcp lease and then just assign it to the vm 
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1255104766 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-108-48.customers.d1-online.com
1255105030 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1255105052 J * mmouse ~mmouse@office.haefft.de
1255105053 M * raceme_ hello Bertl , i am trying to access vserver informations from python via /proc/virtual; is there a better way to do this like accessing directly a kernel api ? i am not sure i can do that from python ?
1255105343 J * ksn ~kuben@81.199.130.2
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1255105388 M * Bertl raceme_: yes, there is, and IIRC, util-vserver provides python bindings for this purpose
1255105422 M * fback good evening!
1255105447 M * Bertl evening!
1255105472 M * fback Bertl: good to hear about the progress constantly going on :)
1255105509 M * fback Bertl: I finally managed to sell my old car, now it's the time for your house :-D
1255105548 M * raceme_ Bertl: perhaps it is not included in the debian package... i'm looking for that
1255105596 M * Bertl fback: let me know when you've sold it :)
1255106288 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255106435 M * raceme_ Bertl: i don't find any python bindings in the released version of util-vserver... is it only in svn version ?
1255106509 M * Bertl nope, should be fine in recent -pre snapshots, sec
1255107135 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11
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1255107662 M * Bertl raceme_: util-vserver-python-0.30.216-0.pre2833.x86_64.rpm so it's part of at least pre2833, but IIRC, it has been for some while
1255107662 J * opuk ~kupo@pipe.intertubez.net
1255107822 M * raceme_ Bertl: i just found that it is part of the debian squeeze package but i have to backport it because python is not compiled in it and i use lenny
1255107856 M * Bertl interesting ... maybe contact/inform the maintainer (or file a bug report/feature request)
1255107924 M * raceme_ Bertl: that's a good idea... i'll see that once i've compiled the new package and tested it :)
1255108317 Q * vServer_User 
1255108320 M * raceme_ Bertl: this is weird... configure detects python and decide to not compile python bindings :(
1255108400 M * raceme_ ok found it... ctags is missing
1255108406 M * Bertl ah :)
1255108686 M * raceme_ Bertl: is suppose that having /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/_libvserver.so in the package is a good thing ? :)
1255108727 M * Bertl guess so, at least it looks like it should be :)
1255108789 M * raceme_ Bertl: do you think i can upgrade util-vserver from 0.30.216~r2772-6 (regular lenny package) to 0.30.216~r2842-2 (squeeze backported) without crashing all my running vservers ?
1255108831 M * Bertl no idea about the debian packages in detail, but from the util-vserver PoV nothing bad is supposed to happen
1255108854 M * raceme_ Bertl: perhaps it will restart vservers this is what scares me...
1255108856 M * Bertl i.e. updating util-vserver will not affect your (running) guests at all
1255108879 M * Bertl check the distro specific scripts, it works fine on Mandriva :)
1255108977 J * Shinsaku ~Shinsaku@chello089076140236.chello.pl
1255108996 M * raceme_ Bertl: you're right... it works fine on Debian too :)
1255109217 M * Bertl \o/
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1255109399 M * mog Bertl, got it going with local nat now, dont know why i didnt think of that first.  thanks for advice
1255109493 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1255109531 M * mog vserver is working great for me on 2.6.30 as well
1255109648 M * geb raceme_, i think that it will restart the guests (calling /etc/init.d/util-vserver stop|start)
1255109720 M * Bertl mog: 2.6.31.x will be even better .. that's where the current work (stabilization/features) is
1255109733 M * mog cool
1255109738 M * Bertl (and of course, 2.6.32 once it is out)
1255109744 M * mog trying to stick as close to debian stock as well
1255109750 M * mog so just took patches to their kernel
1255109820 Q * Shinsaku 
1255109844 Q * mmouse 
1255109970 M * Bertl whatever floats your boat ...
1255109997 M * mog heh
1255110031 Q * Mr_Smoke Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1255110064 M * pmjdebruijn mog consider 2.6.27.36(+) :)
1255110078 M * mog i need 2.6.30 for the lappy
1255110096 M * mog i run stock deb packages on my server that i run vserver on
1255110110 M * pmjdebruijn we do as well... except for the kernel
1255110115 M * pmjdebruijn and util-vserver :)
1255110121 M * mog i just like vserver for working on projects on the go now
1255110133 M * mog tired of ending up with crappy packages all over my machine
1255110154 M * pmjdebruijn mog: that's a disciplinary problem :p
1255110162 M * mog very much so
1255110166 M * Bertl yeah, consider using unification, it will save you disk space and memory (given that the guests share similarities)
1255110166 M * pmjdebruijn I nicely backport squeeze's util-vserver
1255110181 M * mog so now ill just do all crazy stuff in a vserver 
1255110184 M * pmjdebruijn and kernels don't cruft anyway
1255110217 M * mog Bertl, is there anything special i need to do that or if i just use the util to clone my server it does that for me?
1255110255 J * Mr_Smoke ~smokey@layla.lecoyote.org
1255110274 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_manage_a_multi-guest_setup_with_vhashify.3F
1255110292 M * mog thanks
1255110308 M * Bertl np
1255111045 M * raceme_ Bertl: playing with python for a while... do you know if there is a one-liner help about it ?
1255111115 M * Bertl hmm?
1255111222 M * raceme_ Bertl: if I do import _libvserver I can call _libvserver.vc_get_version() for example; but i don't find constants for exemple
1255111346 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/apidoc/refman.pdf maybe?
1255111455 M * raceme_ Bertl: oh yes I found that... but my problem is only python-related in fact... i don't find how to fully use the libvserver python bindings...
1255111579 M * Bertl using 'strings' on _libvserver.so shows that all the symbols/constants are there?!
1255111747 M * raceme_ Bertl: Yes all seems to be there. But if I do for example: _libvserver.vc_virt_stat(11) I get (0L, 718389017345713L, 7, 0, 0, 0, 1839, 0, 0, 0). I thought that i'd get more verbose things like a nice dict as libvserver seems to declare some structs like struct_virt_stat _fields_ = ["offset", "uptime", "nr_threads", "nr_running", ...
1255111827 M * Bertl ah, well, I haven't checked/used the python bindings for some time now, so I have no idea how detailed/verbose they are 
1255111866 M * Bertl nevertheless, they should provide similar interfaces to the C library interface, which should allow you to gather all necessary info directly from the kernel
1255111924 M * raceme_ Bertl: yes it seems to work from the tests i've done... but i am not sure that i am doing the right way :)
1255111926 M * Bertl IIRC, you could use parameter lists to do that
1255111972 M * Bertl I don't know of any howto or examples for those bindings, so maybe have a chat with daniel_hozac and/or create a wiki page with simple examples (after playing around a bit)?
1255111987 M * raceme_ Bertl: do you know if someone is using these bindings here ? i was not lucky with google
1255112036 M * Bertl I think PlanetLab uses them, but not 100% sure
1255112036 M * raceme_ Bertl: ok i definitively should ask daniel_hozac about that :)
1255112102 N * C14r_ C14r
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1255112233 J * Mr_Smoke ~smokey@layla.lecoyote.org
1255112328 M * raceme_ Bertl: thanks for your help, time to go
1255112502 M * Bertl no problem, have fun!
1255112537 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-100-178.customers.d1-online.com
1255112966 A * arekm wonders if it's possible to switch xid from python bindings inside of app and go back to xid 0?
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1255113918 M * Bertl swithing to a context is possible, back not
1255114183 J * Shinsaku ~Shinsaku@chello089076140236.chello.pl
1255114594 Q * mog Quit: Coyote finally caught me
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1255118422 M * fback arekm: it is, that's what threads are for ;-D
1255118751 J * jyce ~jyce@eth0.fw-cl01-01.gva.safehost.net
1255118766 M * jyce Hi guys !
1255118846 M * jyce Can someone please confirm that it's NOT possible to run VServer and LustreFS together ?
1255118970 M * Bertl I don't see why it shouldn't work ...
1255119147 M * jyce Patching Vanilla kernel with lustre then vserver works, but fails on installing lustre tool
1255119158 M * jyce which sound weird to me :)
1255119189 M * jyce Also found a thread on Lustre ML (pretty old).
1255119201 M * Bertl okay, and the same kernel, without Linux-VServer works fine on the same hardware?
1255119227 M * jyce Yep Kernel with Lustre works fine
1255119287 M * Bertl any rejects when you patch Linux-VServer ontop of that?
1255119310 M * jyce No, not a the patching level
1255119350 M * Bertl if not, please prepare two kernels, the one which 'works' and the other which doesn't (make sure to configure DEBUG_INFO in, and do a test run with your tool (on both kernels) with strace -fF
1255119393 M * Bertl upload the output somewhere (e.g. paste.linux-vserver.org), and I'll have a look
1255119406 M * jyce Ok thx, i'll be back when i got some news.
1255119417 M * Bertl feel free to hang around
1255119425 J * derjohn_mob aj@80.187.214.20
1255119454 Q * Shinsaku 
1255119760 M * manana I have 2 ips and 2 VE on it. Can I do on first VE iptables DNAT -d 127.0.0.1 to destination of second ip?
1255119787 N * manana krushik
1255119829 M * Bertl what you call VE, we call Guest, and yes, you could DNAT traffic to lback (inside the guest) to a different guest, but I guess it will get confusing :)
1255119860 M * krushik actually the question is a little deeper. can I use iptables on guest with lo iface
1255119889 M * krushik atm I see # iptables -L
1255119889 M * krushik iptables v1.4.2: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
1255119890 M * Bertl you can use iptables on lo, but the iptable setup happens on the host
1255120008 M * krushik oh. if I'll make iptables rule concern lo, then it will be applied to all guests?
1255120071 M * Bertl correct, but as all your guests can do lback remapping, each guest has it's own 'localhost' ip
1255120094 M * Bertl (by default, 127.x.y.1, where x.y is the context id)
1255120137 M * krushik how can I find out it?
1255120171 M * krushik there is no lo interface on my guests
1255120185 M * derjohn_mob krushik, that like a quiz ;) VE=Virtual Enviroment ? You have to set iptables rules on the host, not the VE.
1255120196 M * Bertl krushik: first, what kernel/patch version do you use?
1255120216 M * krushik derjohn_mob, I already understood this, thanks)
1255120236 M * krushik  2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0
1255120237 M * Bertl derjohn is a little slow, since he works for the mafia :)
1255120246 M * derjohn_mob krushik, sry my client is a little laggy (gsm in train)
1255120297 M * derjohn_mob Bertl, do you refer to ip-mafia.org oder my suffix in the nick :) ?
1255120309 M * Bertl krushik: okay, so you want to update to a vs2.3 release to have this feature (lback remapping) http://linux-vserver.org/Feature_Matrix
1255120344 M * Bertl derjohn_mob: the nick suffix ...
1255120377 M * derjohn_mob because both would be right ;)
1255120444 M * derjohn_mob BTW: thx for experimental .17 release ... my kernel bakery just finished it's for variants ..let's see if they work ;) 
1255120746 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1255121205 M * fback hmh
1255121238 M * fback 2.6.30.4-vs2.3.0.36.14-pre4 worked for me quite well
1255121248 M * fback seems it's time to upgrade, no?
1255121255 M * Hollow Bertl: i can do some btrfs testing, i've already built it into my kernel and have done some raid10 testing (it was rather slow, unfortnately)
1255121274 M * Hollow is there a btrfs enabled testfs.sh already?
1255121316 M * Bertl yep, the 0.21 version should work (maybe needs a minor change for fsck)
1255121335 M * Bertl -xy tests are fine, -z is expected to fail
1255121336 M * Hollow ok, i'll give it a try
1255121355 M * Bertl but it actually needs real world testing now :)
1255121380 M * Hollow yeah, well ... i'd not want to bring btrfs anythin near like 'real world' yet ;)
1255121425 M * Bertl what I mean is, testfs.sh is known to work, so no point in testing that ... everything else is considered 'real world' here :)
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1255125970 M * Bertl Hollow, daniel_hozac, et al: I'd appreciate your opinion on the following:
1255126085 M * Bertl with disklimits, I see two general options (after the vfs changes), we could a) implement them as we had, returning ENOSPC on limit, or we could hook into the vfs helpers (less patching) but we would also return EQUOTA
1255126146 M * daniel_hozac we can't get the helpers to return something other than EQUOTA? EQUOTA for disk limits seems inappropriate to me.
1255126181 M * Bertl nope, as they are 'just' returning true or false, and the EQUOT is produced in the originating functions
1255126191 M * daniel_hozac okay.
1255126197 M * daniel_hozac that sucks, heh.
1255126205 M * Bertl i.e. changing that, would complicate things and end up with the same work than patching in the 'original' way
1255126210 M * daniel_hozac right.
1255126247 M * Bertl I don't see a big problem with the both ...
1255126398 M * daniel_hozac i would personally prefer ENOSPC, but i suppose it doesn't really make a difference.
1255126489 M * daniel_hozac hooking in to the helpers seems better.
1255127010 Q * todo Read error: Connection reset by peer
1255128146 M * fback good night
1255128236 M * raceme_ hello daniel_hozac may i bother you with 2 or 3 questions about libvserver and python bindings ?
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1255129569 M * Bertl raceme_: I'd say, better simply ask them and wait, then asking to ask and never get to the actual question :)
1255129577 M * Bertl *than
1255129745 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya!
1255129750 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1255129830 M * raceme_ Bertl: I just found an example of python script: http://daniel.hozac.com/tmp/vserver-snmp.py and my question is: it it the correct way to use python bindings ? all calls have to be prefixed by _libvserver. ? looping over /proc/virtual and /proc/virtnet is the way to determine running vservers ?
1255129883 M * raceme_ by seeing the url i suppose this is the correct way :)
1255129893 M * raceme_ good night !
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