1254442020 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1254443197 Q * Mr_Smoke Read error: Connection reset by peer 1254443272 J * Mr_Smoke ~smokey@layla.lecoyote.org 1254443726 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa 1254443807 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.144 1254443850 Q * manana 1254443868 J * manana mayday_252@84.17.25.144 1254450416 J * Mr_Smoke_ ~smokey@layla.lecoyote.org 1254450429 Q * Mr_Smoke Read error: Connection reset by peer 1254451810 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving 1254451827 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-76-105-242-186.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1254452347 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c192231.adsl.hansenet.de 1254452758 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254452769 N * saulus_ SauLus 1254453672 Q * Guest2746 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254453690 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1254453694 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1254458474 J * blues_ ~blues@bit208.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 1254458593 Q * blues Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254458972 J * blues ~blues@acsq127.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 1254459092 Q * blues_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254459821 J * sharkjaw ~gab@90.149.121.45 1254464366 M * arekm Bertl_zZ: yeah, oops at work 1254464646 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254464972 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@c195246.adsl.hansenet.de 1254466741 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254466961 J * davidkarban ~david@199.123.broadband11.iol.cz 1254467700 J * thierryp ~thierry@re-srfnt-7.wireless.uva.nl 1254469300 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.85.196.112 1254471283 M * ncopa i have a love/hate relation to linux-vserver 1254471289 M * ncopa i love the concept 1254471294 M * ncopa the kernel stuff 1254471332 M * ncopa but i util-vserver is the worst package i have been up to 1254471348 M * ncopa not becuase it is not "just works" 1254471371 M * ncopa but because when trying to fix broken things, it seems like its meant to not work 1254471381 M * ncopa designed that way on purpose 1254471394 M * ncopa + all the gnusim 1254471575 M * arekm Bertl_zZ: 2.6.31.1 traces - http://pastebin.ca/1589124 1254471960 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1254473486 M * blues Bertl_zZ: sched_hard is guilty, for sure. My machine lives :) 1254473579 M * arekm and we now can reproduce in minutes 1254473621 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254474138 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1254474190 Q * geb Remote host closed the connection 1254474581 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1254475967 Q * wibble Quit: Lost terminal 1254476707 Q * BenG Remote host closed the connection 1254476719 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1254477526 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1254478023 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1254479746 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254479802 J * emcepe ~mcp@wolk-project.de 1254479842 Q * mcp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254479842 N * emcepe mcp 1254479943 Q * karasz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1254479957 J * karasz ~karasz@shell.opensde.net 1254479957 Q * mnemoc Read error: Connection reset by peer 1254480258 J * mnemoc ~amery@shell.opensde.net 1254480642 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1254481294 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1254481818 Q * Chlorek Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254481828 J * Chlorek ~cokolwiek@c.sed.pl 1254481948 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254482353 Q * Chlorek Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254482431 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1254482437 M * Bertl morning folks! 1254482465 M * arachnist moin 1254482531 M * Bertl arekm: good! 1254482544 M * Bertl arekm, blues: what about the suspected mainline change? 1254483166 J * Chlorek ~cokolwiek@c.sed.pl 1254484543 M * Bertl ncopa: what's your problem with util-vserver? 1254484563 M * ncopa it just dont play well with busybox 1254484572 J * doener ~doener@i59F562B6.versanet.de 1254484584 M * Bertl ncopa: ever thought about blaming busybox for that? 1254484596 M * ncopa both 1254484609 M * ncopa there are some things that should be fixed in bb 1254484622 M * Bertl well, it works quite well with many bash versions, so ... 1254484635 M * ncopa but util-vserver uses every gnu extention out there 1254484643 M * ncopa bb tries to be posix 1254484649 M * ncopa also 1254484660 M * ncopa the util-vserver configure script resolves all symlinks 1254484661 M * Bertl we are on GNU/Linux :) 1254484678 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254484680 M * ncopa and ignores the $PATH 1254484693 M * Bertl the symlink resolving is quite necessary, we had a lot of issues before that was done 1254484712 M * ncopa well... it causes problems on busybox 1254484719 M * Bertl how so? 1254484720 M * ncopa cp -r ends up as /bin/busybox -r 1254484743 M * ncopa cp is a link to busybox 1254484749 M * Bertl you could simply use hardlinks instead of softlinks there 1254484766 M * ncopa i have to go now, might be back later 1254484769 M * Bertl (which busybox supports btw) 1254484796 M * ncopa and gives you pain if your /usr is on separate partition 1254484811 M * ncopa would be ok if util-vserver was the only app my distro wants support 1254484816 M * Bertl see, and that's where the symlink resolving is required 1254484819 M * ncopa bbl 1254485043 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: is there some 'config' file which stores the found executeables, or are they hard-coded into the binaries/scripts? would it be hard to use such a file? 1254485893 N * karasz KGB-9 1254486037 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1254486049 N * KGB-9 karasz 1254487263 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1254487267 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1254488436 J * BenG_ ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1254488438 Q * BenG_ 1254488629 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1254488636 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1254489412 M * raceme_ is there some management cli or web that can handle all the vserver configuration (like capabilities and limits) for vserver ? I only found dead projects... 1254490888 M * gerrit raceme_: openvcp can handle limits and some other things, no capabilities though... 1254491182 J * Genghis ~Genghis@ph34r.my.d-n-s.org.uk 1254491206 N * Genghis Guest491 1254491371 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1254492168 M * raceme_ gerrit: i'm installing openvcp to test; thanks... 1254492380 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1254493832 Q * Chlorek Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254494395 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1254495311 M * ncopa back 1254495363 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254495363 M * ncopa the found executables are stored in a vars include file 1254495389 M * ncopa i cannot use hardlinks for busybox, its just not possible 1254495431 M * ncopa i am kinda interested in what kind of problems they got when they used symlinks 1254496687 M * arekm Bertl_oO: nothing, what about it? 1254497146 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA] 1254497863 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx 1254499337 Q * _nono_ Quit: Leaving 1254499757 M * daniel_hozac ncopa: symlinks are resolved using the wrong root directory. 1254499843 M * ncopa so there is no way to get symlinks work? 1254499889 M * daniel_hozac no. 1254499914 M * daniel_hozac use a bind mount and hardlinks. 1254500080 Q * ncopa Quit: Ex-Chat 1254500886 Q * badiane Read error: Operation timed out 1254501205 J * badiane ~badiane@pool-72-68-164-228.nycmny.east.verizon.net 1254501227 P * badiane 1254501772 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1254501911 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1254503166 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1254503292 J * ncopa ~ncopa@90.149.48.245 1254503339 M * ncopa daniel_hozac: you got me really curious on this sylink business 1254503342 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1254503347 M * Bertl back now ... 1254503356 M * ncopa i just dont get how that can be a problem 1254503388 M * ncopa and not the dynamically linked libs, which are loaded after the main binary is read 1254503463 M * daniel_hozac the problem is with relative symlinks. 1254503472 M * Bertl arekm: what I mean is, with that patch removed, does everything work? 1254503487 M * daniel_hozac e.g. /bin/env -> ../usr/bin/env 1254503507 M * daniel_hozac will resolve differently than /bin/env -> /usr/bin/env 1254503551 M * ncopa dynamic libs are always symlinks 1254503557 M * ncopa and relative 1254503566 M * ncopa not with ../ though 1254503566 M * daniel_hozac not past the root directory. 1254503572 M * ncopa ok 1254503575 M * ncopa hum... 1254503590 M * ncopa so its the .. in links that are the problem 1254503594 M * daniel_hozac no. 1254503613 M * daniel_hozac it's hitting the root directory by means of .. that's the problem. 1254503636 M * Bertl why btw ? 1254503649 M * daniel_hozac because there are mounts there. 1254503655 M * daniel_hozac and .. will follow the mount hierarchy. 1254503670 M * daniel_hozac whereas / will use the fs_struct for the root directory. 1254503671 A * mnemoc puzzled 1254503843 M * ncopa hum... 1254503870 M * ncopa that could happen with dynamic libs too? 1254503875 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1254503884 M * daniel_hozac but that case hasn't been encountered yet. 1254503894 M * ncopa naturally enough 1254503921 M * ncopa so /bin/cp -> /bin/busybox should be no problem 1254503945 M * daniel_hozac right. 1254503948 M * ncopa but /bin/cp -> ../bin/busybox is 1254503967 M * mnemoc and /bin/cp -> busybox ? 1254503979 M * ncopa i guess not 1254503999 M * ncopa same as with dynamic libs 1254504010 M * mnemoc so only those that go back to the root without going explicitely to the root 1254504076 M * ncopa ok, i might have a patch idea 1254504550 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1254504555 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1254504652 N * morrigan morrigan_zZ 1254504663 M * ncopa daniel_hozac: if i have understood correctly this might work: http://pastebin.com/m4b647549 1254505073 Q * davidkarban Quit: Ex-Chat 1254507241 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-109-163.customers.d1-online.com 1254511378 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1254512079 Q * geb Quit: / 1254513124 Q * jrdnyquist Quit: brb 1254513650 J * saulus ~saulus@c189162.adsl.hansenet.de 1254513721 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1254514170 J * Alteisen alteisen@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de 1254514183 M * Alteisen hiho 1254514257 Q * saulus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254514609 M * Alteisen i have made a script for simple vserver guest setup for small/home networks. anyone there who likes to review it? -> http://a.ctdo.de/wiki/doku.php?id=linux-vserver 1254514645 M * Alteisen i am running it on a debian lenny host 1254514659 M * Alteisen to create lenny guests as well 1254515166 Q * thierryp Quit: ciao folks 1254516347 P * ghislainocfs2 1254517073 J * scientes ~scientes@174-21-220-129.tukw.qwest.net 1254517573 Q * ncopa Quit: Leaving 1254517989 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1254518021 M * Bertl back now ... 1254518361 M * Bertl Alteisen: most of this script should go into the distro specific config sections ... e.g. initpost, pkgs, etc 1254518486 M * fback time to catch some sleep 1254518491 M * fback see you 1254518694 M * Bertl sleep well 1254519703 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1254520059 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1254521071 Q * manana Read error: Connection reset by peer 1254522575 J * manana mayday_937@84.17.25.144 1254524146 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180192052.adsl.alicedsl.de 1254525376 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1254526992 Q * manana Read error: Connection reset by peer 1254527179 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection