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1253071306 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1253071311 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1253083341 M * ruskie hmmm am I right in assuming that the skeleton build method would allow me to use whatever command to build the system(even if I wanted for example debootstrap instead of using the debootstrap method)?
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1253088696 M * arekm Bertl_zZ: do you use DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP=y in your kernels?
1253088803 M * arekm Bertl_zZ: I'm checking a theory where this is a suspect of being guilty of kernel oopses in pick..next_task
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1253096596 M * otaku42 what options do i have to control whether and how vservers on the same host may connect to each other via network?
1253096693 M * otaku42 currently all vservers use dummy0 as network device and get a separate ip. thus they all can talk to each other.
1253096805 M * otaku42 i could make them all use their "own" dummy interface, let the host act as router and apply iptables rules. but i wonder if there are other options available.
1253096885 M * otaku42 the host runs on debian lenny with the vserver kernel that comes with it. not sure which vserver-version that is, vserver-info says "VS-API: 0x00020303"
1253097320 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1253097338 M * otaku42 ah, found a hint that the kernel is patched with v2.3.0.35
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1253098976 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1253098981 M * Bertl morning folks!
1253099000 M * otaku42 hey Bertl 
1253099025 M * Bertl otaku42: you cannot make the host act as router easily (at least not with your kernel :)
1253099057 M * Bertl otaku42: and the dummy0 isn't used at all for your guest to guest traffic, so no point in using more than one either
1253099078 M * Bertl nevertheless, iptables is the way to go if you want to block network traffic
1253099119 M * otaku42 Bertl: what kind of traffic is the guest-to-guest traffic? in which of the default tables (input or forward) would it occur?
1253099261 M * Bertl it will be 'local' traffic using 'lo' and it will appear on input and output, but not on forward, as nothing is forwarded
1253099410 M * arekm Bertl: see q above
1253099412 M * Bertl ruskie: kind of, it basically gives you an empty guest with the proper /dev entries and /proc, /tmp mountpoints, and a config entry nothing more, nothing less
1253099436 M * ruskie hmm
1253099449 M * Bertl arekm: I disabled it some time ago, as it constantly gave false positives on my hardware (with or without Linux-VServer)
1253099458 M * ruskie well wouldn't the debootstrap mode to the same only that after that it would populate it with debootstrap?
1253099483 M * otaku42 Bertl: ok, thanks for your help, i'll give that a try
1253099571 M * Bertl ruskie: the sequence is slightly different, i.e. a -m debootstrap build will create the config, run the debootstrap process, clean up the guest and that's it, an -m skeleton + manual debootstrap will have the config and dev entries first, then the debootstrap command but no cleanup
1253099600 M * ruskie that's what I wanted to know really ;)
1253099607 M * ruskie means need to have a command to populate and to clean
1253099612 M * ruskie not a big deal really
1253099625 M * Bertl why not use the -m debootstrap instead?
1253099708 M * Bertl arekm: do you have any properly annotated panic yet?
1253100147 M * ruskie because I don't want to bootstrap debian but another distro and I want to make a script for it ;)
1253100197 M * ruskie and yes there is no mode for that distro yet ;)
1253100236 M * ruskie but thanks for all the info it helped me a lot on how to plan this
1253100262 M * Bertl well, then adding a debian like distro description would be the way to go
1253100277 M * ruskie erm
1253100284 M * ruskie it's a source based distro ;)
1253100293 M * ruskie and no not gentoo
1253100293 M * Bertl via debootstrap?
1253100296 M * ruskie no
1253100305 M * ruskie just wanted to know the process
1253100319 M * ruskie I plan to write a bootstrap script for it
1253100331 M * ruskie just wanted to know all the steps that are involved
1253100352 M * Bertl i.c. well, you should talk to daniel_hozac then and make it in way that it integrates in util-vserver
1253100431 M * ruskie first need to see if it can even be effectively done... since there are multiple methods of doing it(use existing binary caches, build everything into it, use a chroot etc...)
1253100449 M * ruskie need to see what our installer team has for the available functions etc...
1253100498 M * Bertl k, fair enough
1253100529 M * ruskie and after I get something I can use I'll definately try to integrate it better
1253100738 M * arekm Bertl: not yet
1253100886 M * Bertl arekm: keep in mind, it's probably the key to nailing that down ... so I'd invest some time on that :)
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1253101398 M * fback Hello Bertl!
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1253111519 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1253111524 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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