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1252198676 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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1252225536 M * geb hi
1252225613 M * hijacker hi
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1252227919 J * dna ~dna@117-201-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
1252227982 M * geb_ bonbons, here ? i have an ipv6 related question (but not vserver related), can i abuse a bit of your time ? :)
1252228223 M * bonbons geb_: maybe, push your question and we will see afterwards :)
1252228478 M * geb_ :)
1252228545 M * geb_ i am trying to use, ip -6 route nexthop ... nexthop , for a sort of poor man load balancing , it seems to works with ipv4 , but with ipv6, ip complains about bad argument or something like
1252228547 M * geb_ http://paste.linux-vserver.org/13411
1252228634 M * geb_ i am unsure if it is a pebcak related problem or a bug/missing functionality in iproute2 or something like
1252228838 M * bonbons what error message is ip giving out?
1252228915 M * geb_ Error: an IP address is expected rather than "fe80::21e:79ff:fe1e:f000"
1252228977 M * geb_ my interpretation: it looks iproute2 only accept ipv4 address here
1252229036 M * bonbons from man ip I would say: ip -6 route add default scope global via fe80::21e:79ff:fe1e:f000 dev eth0 weight 1 nexthop via 2a01:240:fe00:66::1 dev sixxs weight 1
1252229139 M * bonbons but that's a simple guess as I never played with those things (I've no (and never had) linux box with two distinct (equivalent) IPv6 uplinks)
1252229141 M * geb_ http://paste.linux-vserver.org/13412 :(
1252229214 M * geb_ i think the line is right, as it works for ipv4 (and took it from http://www.linux-france.org/prj/inetdoc/guides/lartc/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html#id425588 which is just a (updated) translation of lartc
1252229282 M * geb_ and i am playing with a native ipv6 + sixxs tunnel , just for testing round robin dns
1252229321 M * geb_ i really think that it is simply unimplemented, but i am unsure, and it is difficult to find somebody who ever tryed this
1252229413 M * bonbons yeah, native IPv6 is rare though I'm surprised you can use same local subnet over both of them...
1252229467 M * geb_ i try to use different subnets (the native one, and the sixxs provided one)
1252229539 M * geb_ if you have any pointer or contact to some documentation or somebody who may know ... :) or i'll simply read the code :)
1252229623 M * bonbons geb_ in that case you can't do load balancing anyhow, the choosen route would depend on the local address used
1252229710 M * geb_ yeah, that's what i am doing now , with ip rule show X etc, but i am stick to only one default route
1252229723 M * bonbons (and how you suggest to the kernel which local IPv6 address it shall use for a connection I have not found out yet - routes in main table with "src" tag did not work with IPv6 last time I tried (though they do for IPv4)
1252229874 M * bonbons yeah, one default route per table (I think at least for IPv4 there is a knob that makes it possible to have multiple routes for same subnet going through different interfaces/nexthops)
1252229976 M * geb_ yeah, when looking to ipv6 and things like policy routing it is easy to find unimplemented things , like in quagga where table 0 was used for ipv6 stuffs 
1252230233 M * bonbons not enough people using IPv6... and not enough availability of IPv6 - chicken-egg problem :)
1252230403 M * geb_ i am forced to agree ...
1252230442 M * geb_ unrelated question: is ::1 virtualization implemented in vserver ? how ? just like 127.0.0.1 (172.nid.nid.1) ?
1252230520 M * bonbons huh, don't know... all I remember is that it was discussed... (using localhost-free guests here)
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1252231249 J * Piet ~piet@659AACB2J.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1252231265 M * lau hi is it possible to use ntpd in a vps ?
1252231280 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@cs27002207.pp.htv.fi
1252231311 M * bonbons lau: yes, but you will need to give that VPS extra capabilities to touch kernel's time-keeping...
1252231380 M * lau if i let the host handling ntp and time drift all the hosted vps will be in line with the host, right bonbons ?
1252231406 M * bonbons lau: sure, and that's the recommended way (ntpd on host side)
1252231549 J * Do[k]Ho`n\a ~K@mac33-4-88-163-64-167.fbx.proxad.net
1252231557 M * Do[k]Ho`n\a Hello
1252231563 M * Do[k]Ho`n\a someone speak french ?
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1252232638 M * harry Mr_Smoke: there should not be any problems afaik in using uderef... the things that could give problems are all explained in the readme section on the download page...
1252236168 M * lau how to slave the guest date to the host one ?
1252236193 M * lau cmd date returns different values between host and guest
1252236486 M * geb_ timezone problem ?
1252236540 M * geb_ (timezone is mostly interpreted in userland, on debian guest you have to play with tzconfig or to make links by hand)
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1252236962 P * virtuoso 
1252237810 M * lau geb_: ok
1252237868 M * geb_ lau, should be interesting to add it on the wiki, maybe on the faq
1252238025 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1252238030 M * Bertl morning folks!
1252238062 M * Bertl Do[k]Ho`n\a: I guess so .. but the cannel language is english :)
1252238120 M * arachnist hmm
1252238146 M * arachnist keeping a running sun e420r under bed is not a very good idea. it gets pretty hot :/
1252238161 M * lau geb_: absolutely, with a ubuntu server i used dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, it's working like a charm ! thx again
1252238241 M * lau maybe in item 11 Distribution specific questions ?
1252238279 M * lau something like 11.3 Timezone problem
1252238282 M * Bertl it's definitely distro specific, but you can generalize it by simply making a link or copying the desired timezone file
1252238313 M * Bertl if you build the guest from an installed machine, the proper file will be already in place
1252238342 M * lau do you mean a copy vs ?
1252238360 M * lau oh ok i see
1252238389 M * Bertl it's not really different how the timezones are handled in a guest, compared to a 'real linux' system, only that most distros ask you some questions at install time, and set the timezone accordingly for you
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1252239417 M * geb_ Bertl, daniel_hozac , don't you think util-vserver should guess tz from host and apply it to guest at install time ?
1252239531 M * Bertl personally I'd prefer a --timezone at build time, which can be set to 'copy from host'
1252239552 M * Bertl (but as I know daniel_hozac, that's already somewhere in svn :)
1252239608 M * geb_ :)
1252239636 M * geb_ i agree with the tz, but i think the default should not be UTC, but the host one :)
1252239651 M * geb_ with --tz idea, sorry
1252239763 M * geb_ grr , tired :)
1252239824 M * Bertl probably a personal preference .. for example, I keep my hosts on UTC, but almost all guests on the appropriate local time (which can differ from guest to guest)
1252239900 M * Bertl i.e. could get a default entry somewhere :)
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1252256357 J * Keeper opera@90.151.2.42
1252256629 M * Keeper Bertl: Hi, How are you?
1252256835 M * Keeper Bertl: I wanted to ask whether the added ability to manage swappages for the guest environment?
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1252257111 M * Mr_Smoke harry: oh, thanks for the information :) I eventually left it out, but I'll look into it later 
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