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1251607280 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1251607287 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1251638015 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1251638018 M * Bertl morning folks!
1251638274 M * arachnist morning's relative ;>
1251638286 M * arachnist good afternoon, Bertl 
1251638420 M * Bertl Crick, Einstein, Escher .. guess I'm in good company (regarding relative :)
1251640624 J * stefanBA ~Stefan@dslb-084-060-150-148.pools.arcor-ip.net
1251640655 M * stefanBA Hello everybody.
1251640664 M * Bertl welcome stefanBA!
1251640717 M * stefanBA I'm experiencing a strange change in behaviour regarding UTS namespace separation among VServers wehn upgrading from linux-2.6.28-vs2.3.0.36.4 to linux-2.6.30.5-vs2.3.0.36.14-pre7
1251640734 M * stefanBA and I wonder what I might be doing wrong...
1251640742 M * Bertl okay, what kind of change?
1251640768 M * stefanBA with ne new version, a "hostname foo" in a VServer will change the hostname in all VSerers and the host
1251640785 M * Bertl you are using too old util-vserver then
1251640802 M * stefanBA util-vserver-0.30.215
1251640809 M * Bertl which is too old :)
1251640831 M * stefanBA ah, thanks!
1251640969 M * stefanBA is util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2841 a good version to try?
1251640975 M * Bertl yep, should work
1251640996 M * stefanBA should it also work with the linux-2.6.28-vs2.3.0.36.4 version?
1251641016 M * stefanBA then I could upgrade and test in two steps...
1251641137 M * arekm new util-vserver and old broken vserver patches (pivot root thing) don't work well. Can't say exactly which one are broken.
1251641145 M * Bertl yes, it is backwards compatible back to the 2.4 kernels
1251641165 M * stefanBA okay, I'll try
1251641191 M * stefanBA Thank you already for your help.
1251641343 M * stefanBA If you want to have some background about me: I'm operating a rented server at hetzner.de, which is running blinkenarea.org (and some more) in a vserver. I'm using vserver since 2003 and really like it. It is a lot more efficient than vmware or user mode linux.
1251641602 Q * ruskie Quit: Disconnecting from stoned server.
1251641630 M * Bertl great! maybe you want to add yourself to the list of Happy Linux-VServer Users?
1251641647 M * Bertl or even donate something to the project, and get an entry in the Hallo'o'Fame :)
1251641790 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net
1251641797 M * stefanBA Yeah I'll add myself to the list, once I've finished with my server. :-)
1251644469 M * Hollow Bertl: i have started 2.3 testing ... preliminary results are here: http://bb.xnull.de/pub/2.3-testing some fs tests failed ... i'm working on the feature list now, the ones with OK have been tested and seem to work
1251644503 M * Bertl excellent!
1251644560 M * Hollow Bertl: i will probably bug for some things on this list, since i have no idea how to test it properly
1251644564 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1251644570 M * Hollow *bug you
1251644576 M * Bertl no problem
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1251648796 M * stefanBA Bertl: Everything works now for me, thank you again! I've also added myself to the Happy VServer Users list in wiki. :-)
1251649483 M * Bertl great!
1251651726 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl
1251651738 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1251653971 N * DLange Guest812
1251653971 Q * Guest812 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1251653983 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net
1251654997 N * DLange Guest813
1251655001 Q * Guest813 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1251655009 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net
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1251655450 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
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1251664571 J * lau ~lau@AToulouse-157-1-146-224.w86-221.abo.wanadoo.fr
1251664766 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1251664770 M * Bertl back now ...
1251664822 M * lau :)
1251664867 M * lau I am still compiling my own kernel 
1251664870 M * lau http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.22.19.tar.bz2
1251664883 M * lau http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=e694958388c50148389b0e9b9e9e8945cf0f1b98
1251664887 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines)
1251664892 M * lau and http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/kernel/vs2.2/patch-2.6.22.19-vs2.2.0.7.diff
1251664901 M * lau ok
1251665076 M * lau in order to apply the zero exploit patch (git) can I directly vi the file in the kernel sources ? or do I have to patch it ?
1251665142 M * Bertl whatever you prefer .. patch usually simplifies the automation/reproduceability
1251665143 M * Marillion the best way, take the images from your distri
1251665150 Q * jklblerf Quit: shutting down
1251665161 M * Bertl Marillion: not necessarily
1251665212 M * Marillion Bertl: ok, if the distri Debian, because the images are broken
1251665247 M * Bertl there are various reasons to avoid distro kernels in general even distro sources
1251665360 M * Bertl for one, you avoid distro specific features (bugs), and you are basically going for a better tested kernel (at least with Linux-VServer)
1251665564 M * lau yes that was my intention "you are basically going for a better tested kernel (at least with Linux-VServer)"
1251665574 M * Marillion Bertl: is 2.6.22 to much better than 2.6.27.31?
1251665589 M * lau I think it is more tested
1251665628 M * Bertl the stable branch is definitely more tested
1251665663 M * Marillion  lau: for enterprise reason, but not for privat person!
1251665871 J * tanjix tanjix@77.37.0.150
1251665881 M * tanjix good evening @ll
1251665901 M * tanjix Bertl, you around?
1251665922 M * Bertl nope, why do you think so? :)
1251665951 M * tanjix don't know ;) Can you remember the bug i reported relating the ssh-ing to the guests?
1251665969 M * tanjix that i was put to a wrong guest?
1251665978 M * Bertl not really, but I suspect it was a configuration issue on your side :)
1251665989 M * tanjix no, it was a bug in the kernel ;)
1251666000 M * tanjix but however; i seem to have anything similar again
1251666024 M * tanjix i installed a new kernel on to an existing system. now, when i ssh to the host system, it shows the hostname of one of the guests on it
1251666045 M * Bertl too old util-vserver on too new kernel
1251666156 M * tanjix is 0.30.214 too old?
1251666180 M * Bertl for the kernel you are using, probably yes, otherwise you wouldn't have the described issue :)
1251666230 M * tanjix mh but strange is, that other servers with the same kernel / util-vserver version don't show that scenario
1251666250 M * tanjix i'll update utils anyway and see what happens
1251666326 M * Bertl is is a known bug that specific util-vserver versions (0.30.213-0.30.216-pre2772) do not handle the namespace creation properly on recent kernels (2.6.28.x+)
1251666364 M * Bertl i.e. the guests will be created without proper namespace isolation, and thus, a 'hostname' issued inside a guest (for example) will change the hostname of the host
1251666462 M * tanjix mh i rebooted the affected host again, now it is ok... (with no changes on util-vserver)
1251666494 M * Bertl enter a guest, issue 'hostname  hansi', ssh to the host, execute 'hostname' see what it gives
1251666514 M * Bertl maybe your kernel isn't affected (I still don't know the version :) 
1251666524 M * tanjix vs10207:~# vserver vs10208 enter
1251666525 M * tanjix vs5903:/#
1251666528 M * tanjix what's that?
1251666559 M * tanjix strange, let's see what the util-vserver upgrade shows up ;)
1251666763 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180194077.adsl.alicedsl.de
1251667184 M * tanjix ok, the 0.30.216-pre2772 does not have this issue
1251667192 M * tanjix so i think: problem solved ;)
1251667201 M * tanjix thanks!
1251667206 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1251667235 M * Marillion tanjix: for me :) which kernel version use you?
1251667287 M * tanjix Marillion: 2.6.30.1-vs2.3.0.36.14-pre4-vserver
1251667304 M * Marillion tanjix: ah thanks
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1251675008 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1251675014 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ