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1251246278 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1251246456 J * Piet ~piet@659AAB2DA.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1251248035 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1251248864 J * mib_oe0i9tpb cb5ebc0f@webchat.mibbit.com
1251248899 M * mib_oe0i9tpb [account]
1251248916 M * mib_oe0i9tpb Hello
1251248923 M * mib_oe0i9tpb anyone here?
1251248942 M * mib_oe0i9tpb SCREW U ALL!!!
1251248943 Q * mib_oe0i9tpb 
1251250691 M * Bertl hmm, the mibbit.com folks usually come here, give a few incoherent comments and then start cursing or swearing .... if nobody has any objections, I'm going to simply ban them in the future ... please let me know what you think :)
1251250837 A * hparker sees nothing wrong with it, has done it in other channels
1251251072 M * agaffney people using mibbit usually don't understand how IRC works anyway
1251251076 M * agaffney no big loss :P
1251251230 Q * geb Quit: /
1251252026 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180192060.adsl.alicedsl.de
1251252457 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1251252506 M * hparker mibbit... nabble... Same problem 
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1251252822 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1251252827 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1251253121 J * DreamerC ~DreamerC@122-116-181-118.HINET-IP.hinet.net
1251255599 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c193159.adsl.hansenet.de
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1251257205 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1251257215 Q * geb 
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1251263237 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-240-82.oke2-bras6.adsl.tele2.no
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1251265653 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1251265830 J * FireEgl Proteus@WTF.4.1.0.c.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
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1251267472 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-104-124.customers.d1-online.com
1251267476 J * mib_lsidyfdf 5b52cd0b@webchat.mibbit.com
1251267491 M * mib_lsidyfdf Sziasztok
1251267541 M * mib_lsidyfdf Hello
1251267574 P * mib_lsidyfdf 
1251267788 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1251267798 J * mxs_ mxs@p4FCCAA35.dip.t-dialin.net
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1251268706 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@151.2-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1251268707 Q * ktwilight Read error: Connection reset by peer
1251269242 J * tokkee tokkee@osprey.tokkee.org
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1251269814 J * skainz ~skainz@zidpc9027.tu-graz.ac.at
1251271114 M * arekm Bertl_zZ: vserver not guilty... managed to reproduce on vanilla
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1251272039 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1251272774 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
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1251273589 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
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1251275843 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1251276290 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net
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1251276730 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74
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1251278149 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-109-179.customers.d1-online.com
1251278244 J * DreamerC ~DreamerC@122-116-181-118.HINET-IP.hinet.net
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1251280271 J * BWare ~itsme@ip-80-113-1-198.ip.prioritytelecom.net
1251280523 J * xdr ~xdr@h-239-29.A219.priv.bahnhof.se
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1251282536 Q * saulus 
1251282548 J * saulus ~saulus@c193159.adsl.hansenet.de
1251282570 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1251282816 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@sadsl-246167.rol.raiffeisen.net
1251282828 J * xdr ~xdr@h-239-29.A219.priv.bahnhof.se
1251283149 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
1251283341 J * Pazzo_ ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
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1251288197 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-105-233.customers.d1-online.com
1251288561 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1251288566 M * Bertl morning folks!
1251289662 Q * xdr Read error: Connection reset by peer
1251289843 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1251289894 M * Bertl arekm: I'd look into the hardware, specifically the nic/bus/cpu interaction
1251289958 M * Bertl despite the fact that intel cards are 'usually' stable and well supported, maybe you end up triggering a watchdog or irq of some kind
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1251293038 J * ard ~ard@shell2.kwaak.net
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1251294883 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.200.85
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1251296298 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1251296556 J * mib_xsevz702 79f61c4a@webchat.mibbit.com
1251296566 M * mib_xsevz702 hai
1251296589 M * mib_xsevz702 u there
1251296630 P * mib_xsevz702 
1251297182 F * ChanServ +o Bertl
1251297186 F * Bertl +b *!*@webchat.mibbit.com
1251297365 M * cehteh hai :)
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1251298144 M * _Shiva_ lol :-)
1251298284 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl
1251298288 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1251299109 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-6c3771d5.08-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
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1251299158 J * daniel_hozac_ ~daniel@c-6c3771d5.08-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
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1251299844 M * zogthegreat does anyone know if you can create SME Server under vserver?
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1251300407 M * cehteh whats SME Server?
1251300458 M * cehteh just an distribution? .. then quite certainly yes, with more or less efforts
1251301057 J * gerrit ~gerrit@ionscale.com
1251301109 J * INTERNATIONAL ~Richti@ip-95-222-78-197.unitymediagroup.de
1251301179 M * INTERNATIONAL Only eng?
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1251301643 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org
1251302913 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
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1251303783 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa
1251303807 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com
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1251304121 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1251304701 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
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1251306181 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1251306184 M * Bertl back now ...
1251306287 M * Bertl zogthegreat: IIRC, SME is 'based' on centos, so yes, if you have a template or a repository to use, no problem there
1251306306 M * Bertl INTERNATIONAL: only english here, yes :)
1251306406 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.10.130
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1251308064 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11
1251308237 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1251308245 J * saulus ~saulus@d046182.adsl.hansenet.de
1251308433 J * urbee ~quote@BSN-142-145-67.dial-up.dsl.siol.net
1251308434 M * urbee yo
1251308666 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1251308686 M * urbee 2.6.20-vs2.2.0-gentoo
1251308691 M * urbee is there a ipv6 patch for this
1251308996 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@c-98-246-156-85.hsd1.or.comcast.net
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1251309527 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.209.245.141
1251309552 Q * geb Quit: /
1251309570 M * Bertl urbee: hmm, why not get a vs2.3 kernel, where ipv6 support is already integrated?
1251310468 Q * docelic Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/
1251311312 M * ensc Bertl: is it known that unshare(CLONE_NEWNS) does not work anymore with 2.6.27 vserver kernel? http://fpaste.org/SOSm/
1251311332 M * ensc in host, it works fine, but not in guest
1251311634 M * Bertl ensc: how does the paste illustrate that the unshare fails?
1251311665 M * ensc the second ls shows that procfs is mounted at /mnt
1251311693 M * ensc but it was mounted within the new ns of x only
1251311703 Q * saulus Quit: =...something weird happened
1251311717 J * saulus ~saulus@d046182.adsl.hansenet.de
1251311756 M * Bertl ensc: well, that could be cause by several things, e.g. older util-vserver which do not correctly unshare the namespaces
1251311761 M * Bertl *caused
1251311778 M * ensc this was executed within a guest
1251311798 M * Bertl yes, so? are you sure your guest is properly separated?
1251311800 M * ensc (which was created by recent utils svn2847)
1251311825 M * Bertl ah, okay, so we can assume it is, recent 2.6.27.x kernel too, I presume?
1251311833 M * ensc yes, 2.6.27.31
1251311912 M * Bertl okay, please check the /proc/<pid>/nsproxy entry in both cases
1251311939 M * Bertl i.e. if you get a separate mnt space from the unshare or not
1251311963 M * Bertl it could still be that the namespace is propagating 
1251312208 M * daniel_hozac we're marking the mounts as shared.
1251312208 Q * urbee Read error: Connection reset by peer
1251312322 M * ensc http://fpaste.org/TkbW/
1251312345 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature
1251312348 M * ensc line 17 is strange
1251312371 M * ensc (or just roken code... )
1251312441 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org
1251312548 M * ensc http://fpaste.org/kpPT/
1251312691 M * Bertl but it shows, you have your own mnt space, no?
1251312704 M * ensc it's an own namespace, yes
1251312719 M * ensc but line 30 (original process) has /mnt mounted
1251312729 M * ensc although it was never be mounted there
1251312782 M * ensc in host context, I get the expected http://fpaste.org/BNyK/
1251312804 M * Bertl http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-mount-namespaces.html
1251312816 M * Bertl check that your mount point is not propagating
1251312962 M * ensc it is created by mount("none", "/mnt", "proc", 0, "");
1251313021 M * Bertl try a different mountpoint for example
1251313046 M * Bertl or better check with daniel_hozac, it might be that the entire guest is propagating now
1251313581 M * daniel_hozac it is.
1251313735 M * ensc daniel_hozac: how can I turn this off?
1251313755 M * daniel_hozac you can't really.
1251313775 M * daniel_hozac i mean, i guess you can by entering the namespace and marking it as private again.
1251313793 M * daniel_hozac but by default, we want to facilitate mount management from the host.
1251313889 M * ensc does the old 'vnamespace -e ... mount ...' not work anymore?
1251313941 M * ensc MS_PRIVATE mount option gives -EPERM in guest :(
1251313961 M * daniel_hozac not without the mounts being shared.
1251314001 M * daniel_hozac you need CAP_SYS_ADMIN for it.
1251314122 M * ensc would it be difficult to disable the default propagating behaviour?  I really do not need mount management by host
1251314148 M * daniel_hozac not really...
1251314155 M * daniel_hozac see line 974 in vserver.functions
1251314699 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1251314708 M * ensc ah... looks good so far... thx
1251314738 M * ensc should be probably made a configuration option. Or is there a reason why it is hardcoded?
1251314822 M * daniel_hozac as i said, to make mount management from the host possible.
1251314830 M * daniel_hozac since guest's don't typically have the capabilities to do it themselves.
1251314857 Q * BenG 
1251314907 M * ensc but it makes use cases impossible where guests are doing mounts themself... (e.g. koji builders)
1251314973 M * daniel_hozac well, only if you're depending on the namespaces.
1251314980 M * daniel_hozac but sure, it should be made configurable.
1251314990 M * Bertl well, I guess this needs to be handled in the future too, since the namespace propagation exists outside of Linux-VServer too
1251315017 M * Bertl so, I could as well make my host mounts 'propagating'
1251315083 Q * larsivi Read error: Connection reset by peer
1251315095 J * larsivi ~larsivi@70.84-48-63.nextgentel.com
1251315119 M * ensc Bertl: would it be possible to make unshare() available within guests without giving full CAP_SYS_ADMIN caps?
1251315218 M * Bertl we could add a capability for that, I guess? daniel_hozac?
1251315253 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1251315262 M * daniel_hozac probably want to add do_change_type to it as well.
1251315802 M * Bertl ensc: hmm, doesn't look to me like unshare() is restricted right now?
1251315904 M * ensc Bertl: it is; I patched my local kernel with http://fpaste.org/w8rW/ but did not tested whether really all four places are needed
1251315914 M * Bertl ah, the various unshare helpers are ... sec
1251316095 M * Bertl I guess we leave out the cgroup checks for now, they have their own logic, and we might add a separate capability for that later
1251316219 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: VXC_NAMESPACE sounds good? I'd place it right after the KTRHEAD
1251316243 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1251316583 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
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1251317421 M * Bertl ensc: this patch should do what you need, please test and let me know whether it works for your purpose: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/ExperimentalT/delta-nscap-feat01.diff
1251317623 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
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1251319804 J * ktwilight ~keliew@151.2-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1251320471 M * ensc Bertl: unshare(CLONE_NEWNS)                    = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
1251320550 M * ensc dmesg shows: Failed to create cgroup 6523: -1
1251320615 M * Bertl so you are using cgroups?
1251320658 M * Bertl in this case, the other checks are probably needed too
1251320682 M * ensc they are enabled in kernel config
1251320723 M * ensc but there is no special handling/enabling
1251320804 M * daniel_hozac you probably have CONFIG_CGROUP_NS
1251320833 M * daniel_hozac which IMHO doesn't make much sense with vservers.
1251321018 M * Bertl we should block it for now, what do you think?
1251321031 M * Bertl or at least default it to off
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1251322200 J * FireEgl Proteus@WTF.4.1.0.c.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1251322646 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
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1251323684 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d025110.adsl.hansenet.de
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1251326966 J * dna ~dna@55-197-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de
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1251327919 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk
1251327968 Q * BenG 
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