1251072067 J * morrigan morrigan@213.145.232.42 1251073490 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.3.0.36|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1251073490 T * ChanServ - 1251073626 J * scientes ~scientes@174-21-108-121.tukw.qwest.net 1251073989 J * morrigan morrigan@IRC.13thfloor.at 1251074056 J * Bertl_ herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at 1251074169 N * bertl Guest19 1251074170 N * Bertl_ Bertl 1251074204 Q * Guest19 Quit: leaving 1251074286 M * Bertl so, hopefully the routing issues are resolved now ... 1251074287 J * BobR_oO odie@IRC.13thfloor.at 1251074744 J * FireEgl Proteus@WTF.4.1.0.c.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1251075572 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1251075577 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1251075690 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1251075865 J * FireEgl Proteus@WTF.4.1.0.c.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1251079234 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@e180193141.adsl.alicedsl.de 1251079663 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251080526 Q * docelic Quit: http://www.spinlocksolutions.com/ 1251082794 J * saulus_ ~saulus@c150040.adsl.hansenet.de 1251083204 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251083209 N * saulus_ SauLus 1251087941 Q * DreamerC Quit: leaving 1251088294 J * DreamerC ~DreamerC@122-116-181-118.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1251089208 J * doener_ ~doener@i59F55681.versanet.de 1251089310 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251089835 Q * balbir_ Read error: Operation timed out 1251091199 Q * faheem Read error: Operation timed out 1251091207 J * faheem ~faheem@rrcs-70-63-128-198.midsouth.biz.rr.com 1251092457 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.77.34 1251092861 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1251093407 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-49-95.oke2-bras6.adsl.tele2.no 1251093645 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251094289 Q * geb Quit: / 1251094923 N * ensc Guest51 1251094932 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.160.26 1251094965 J * mxs_ mxs@p4FCC951D.dip.t-dialin.net 1251095018 Q * Guest51 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251095264 Q * mxs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251095995 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1251095995 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1251096012 J * Evet ~root@88.226.141.0 1251096016 M * Evet morning 1251096254 J * davidkarban ~david@193.85.217.71 1251096832 J * FireEgl Proteus@WTF.4.1.0.c.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1251096954 J * em179 ~em179@203-59-116-27.dyn.iinet.net.au 1251097013 P * em179 1251097043 J * em179 ~em179@203-59-116-27.dyn.iinet.net.au 1251097095 P * em179 1251097313 P * sharkjaw Leaving 1251097376 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1251097821 Q * nenolod Quit: Leaving 1251098064 J * nenolod ~nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org 1251098301 J * FireEgl Proteus@Sebastian.Atlantica.CJB.Net 1251099115 J * BWare ~itsme@ip-80-113-1-198.ip.prioritytelecom.net 1251101176 M * Evet hey BWare 1251101216 J * dogol ~dekil@125.161.206.49 1251101318 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1251101657 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@195.243.216.22 1251101678 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1251101761 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1251103739 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1251104862 N * kardan_ kardan 1251106667 J * Bertl_zZ_ herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at 1251106677 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1251106678 J * C14r_ ~C14r@mail.cipworx.de 1251106682 J * mrfree_ ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1251106685 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1251106742 J * BobR_oO_ odie@IRC.13thfloor.at 1251106748 J * davidkarban_ ~david@193.85.217.71 1251106756 J * morrigan_ morrigan@IRC.13thfloor.at 1251106759 Q * mrfree joule.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net 1251106759 Q * davidkarban joule.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net 1251106759 Q * doener_ joule.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net 1251106759 Q * BobR_oO joule.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net 1251106759 Q * Bertl_zZ joule.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net 1251106759 Q * morrigan joule.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net 1251106759 Q * sid4windr joule.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net 1251106759 Q * hijacker joule.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net 1251106759 Q * C14r joule.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net 1251106983 J * doener ~doener@i59F55681.versanet.de 1251107330 Q * scientes Quit: scientes 1251107342 J * scientes ~scientes@174-21-108-121.tukw.qwest.net 1251107929 J * SHINSAKU ~Shinsaku@chello089076140236.chello.pl 1251108587 Q * kir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251108734 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1251108985 Q * Pazzo Remote host closed the connection 1251109093 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1251110354 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19 1251110876 M * Evet Anyone using cpanel or linux? 1251110910 M * pmjdebruijn cpanel or linux 1251110916 M * JonB i use linux 1251110932 M * pmjdebruijn Evet: that's like asking anybody, are you using tractors or vegetables 1251110951 M * pmjdebruijn Evet: please ask your question... 1251110980 M * Evet oh. lol 1251110986 M * Evet i meant cpanel or plesk 1251111226 M * pmjdebruijn :) 1251111232 M * pmjdebruijn we run plesk, but it's not in a vserver 1251111252 M * pmjdebruijn with proprietary software, we tried to run as much as specified by the vendor 1251111571 Q * doener Quit: leaving 1251111885 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251112101 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-49-95.oke2-bras6.adsl.tele2.no 1251112314 J * datacompboy ~datacomp@213.187.251.250 1251112399 M * datacompboy Hi all! How to make /proc/asound visible to some guest? I have added /proc/asound into /vprocunhide/files, runned vprocunhide, but in guest visible only /proc/asound/Dummy link, and nothing more 1251112411 M * datacompboy should i add into files all tree to make it visible? 1251112452 M * JonB i have never played with making stuff available into guests 1251112479 M * JonB you might need to give the guest some capabilities too 1251112507 M * Evet pmjdebruijn: in fact, i dont trust cpanel, plesk etc. 1251112536 M * Evet but i need 1251112542 M * Evet im going to install in a vserver 1251112581 M * Evet a security vulnerability of these softwares can be risk of whole server? 1251112659 M * datacompboy ahh, i should add /proc/asound/ into and it works :) 1251113510 M * JonB can i make aliases/2. names for vservers? so i can enter them by using 2 or more names 1251113528 M * datacompboy JonB: yes, make symlink in /etc/vservers 1251113547 M * datacompboy but after you get in, you will see its main name only 1251113935 M * pmjdebruijn Evet: erhm 1251113944 M * pmjdebruijn Evet: why share a server at all with plesk, etc... 1251114121 M * Evet pmjdebruijn: im going to provide hosting 1251114134 M * JonB datacompboy: thank you 1251115009 Q * datacompboy Quit: Õðÿï 1251115229 Q * transacid Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251115363 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1251115398 Q * transacid 1251115478 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1251116703 Q * Pazzo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251116856 J * mib_k167tchb 5391bd7a@webchat.mibbit.com 1251116872 Q * mib_k167tchb 1251116973 M * pmjdebruijn Evet: so? 1251117113 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1251117221 N * Bertl_zZ_ Bertl 1251117225 M * Bertl morning folks! 1251117335 M * hijacker_ afternoon Bertl 1251117339 M * ktwilight__ mornin' Bertl 1251117356 M * hijacker_ it is approaching 4pm in europe... 1251117359 M * ktwilight__ just upgraded the kernel to .27.31, works fine so far :) 1251117486 M * Bertl good! 1251117580 M * Evet morning 1251117600 Q * Pazzo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251117701 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:290:96ff:fe50:40fa 1251117888 M * pmjdebruijn ktwilight__: we've been testing as well, we're happy with it as well, thus far 1251117904 M * ktwilight__ :) 1251118262 J * awk ~awk@gw1.security.web.za 1251118273 M * awk good day anyone mind looking at http://pastebin.com/d6cd47012 ? many thanks 1251118507 J * Net147 Net147@c211-30-18-226.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au 1251118523 M * Bertl looks like a resource limit hit, check /proc/virtual//limits 1251118595 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1251118692 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1251118719 Q * ghislainocfs2 Quit: Leaving. 1251118746 J * ghislainocfs2 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1251118771 M * Net147 Bertl: I emailed you an updated patch to put in the ARCH folder. did you receive it? 1251118807 M * Bertl the pacman stuff, yes? 1251118813 M * Net147 yes 1251118837 M * Bertl I guess daniel_hozac will take a look at it (did he get a copy too, don't remember) 1251118845 M * Net147 yes he did 1251118852 M * Net147 did we want to put it in the ARCH folder in the meantime? 1251118862 M * Net147 it replaces the old one 1251118881 M * Bertl k, will do 1251118882 M * awk Bertl: hmm, not sure what to do with this info http://pastebin.com/d4bfe1c4c 1251118977 M * Bertl the last column shows that there was not Linux-VServer limit hit 1251118993 M * awk Bertl: any idea how to resolve this? 1251119005 M * Bertl still leaves the ulimits (check them manually) and host global limits 1251119066 M * Bertl specificall look for #process limits, as it would be the most obvious one for a failing fork() 1251119085 J * doener ~doener@i59F55681.versanet.de 1251119126 M * awk what would you suggest changing the value to? 1251119280 M * Bertl depends, what is the current soft/hard limit? 1251119326 M * Bertl the guest limits recorded a max of 70 processes 1251119652 M * awk hrm, not sure whats up... 1251119652 M * awk if I reboot it works fine... why would it not free up the recources? 1251119822 M * Bertl reboot means? 1251119851 M * awk restart parent 1251119864 M * awk \ host 1251119973 M * Bertl it could be shared memory, which doesn't get freed up by itself 1251120037 M * Bertl I'd really check your ulimits inside the guest, for obvious limitations 1251120045 M * Bertl also, what kernel/patch do you use? 1251120192 M * awk its an old vserver, just don't want to upgrade due to a remote box and don't want to break something.... 1251120192 M * awk patch-2.6.26.7-vs2.3.0.35.6-grsec2.1.12-2008103101.diff 1251120314 M * Bertl well, all kind of limits from grsec might hit there, besides that 2.6.26 is known broken ... so I'd suggest to upgrade ASAP 1251120337 M * awk known broken ? eg: exploitable? 1251120385 M * Bertl since the last kernel exploit, definitely that too 1251120390 M * Net147 time to verify the md5 1251120463 M * awk Bertl: eeeeek.... 1251120476 M * awk Bertl: I just hate south african bandwidth :( 1251120482 M * Net147 Bertl: wrong permissions on file 1251120490 M * awk to try do anything on a remote box is as slow as a 56k dial up 1251120539 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1251120546 M * Bertl really? well, I do most things on a remote machine ... 1251120553 M * Bertl Net147: should be fine now 1251120564 M * Net147 Bertl: yea, everything checks out. thanks 1251120568 M * Bertl np 1251120569 M * awk Bertl: don't count on it in south africa :) 1251120595 M * awk hrm, let me see if I can not break my system by installing this new kernel 1251120813 M * awk Bertl the vserver site recomends 2.6.22.19 kernel? 1251120820 M * awk is this correct or outdated? 1251120915 M * Bertl for stable, yes, for 'almost' development, go for 2.6.27.x 1251120973 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251121720 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1251121813 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1251121910 Q * awk Remote host closed the connection 1251121917 M * Bertl got some work to do in the basement ... bbl 1251121921 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1251121942 J * awk ~awk@gw1.security.web.za 1251121942 Q * awk 1251122195 M * FIChTe anyone knows if its possible to do a debootstrap inside a vserver? 1251122469 M * hijacker_ FIChTe, why not? 1251122474 M * hijacker_ you can debootstrap anywhere... 1251122527 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1251122550 M * FIChTe hmm 1251122579 M * FIChTe http://paste.linux-vserver.org/13397 1251122585 M * FIChTe for me it does not work 1251123044 Q * Net147 Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client 1251123450 M * hijacker_ how is /data/idevsrc/live/livei386/chroot mounted? 1251123547 M * hijacker_ how do you run debootstrap ? 1251123556 M * FIChTe got it, i tried it on a rbind 1251123558 M * hijacker_ main # cd / ; mkdir /sid-root 1251123558 M * hijacker_ main # debootstrap sid /sid-root http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ 1251123558 M * hijacker_ [ ... watch it download the whole system ] 1251123621 M * hijacker_ so does it work now ? 1251123631 M * FIChTe yes 1251123643 N * hijacker_ hijacker 1251123655 M * hijacker excellent 1251123670 M * hijacker it might give errors when it comes to creating devices thou ... 1251123701 M * FIChTe mknod something on a rbind works 1251123725 M * FIChTe but "echo something > created dev" does not work on an rbind 1251123765 M * hijacker well, that should be expected i'd reckon ? 1251123800 M * FIChTe should be normal behaviour i think 1251124055 Q * SHINSAKU 1251124400 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1251124734 Q * mstrobert_ Read error: Operation timed out 1251124756 J * mstrobert_ ~mstrobert@wkstn.wycliffe.ca 1251124820 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.77.34 1251124992 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.10.130 1251125031 Q * davidkarban_ Quit: Ex-Chat 1251125101 Q * Evet Read error: Operation timed out 1251125136 J * Evet ~root@88.226.141.0 1251125450 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1251125450 J * kardan_ ~kardan@p54BE2C3D.dip.t-dialin.net 1251125760 J * zogthegreat ~bill@bas4-montreal28-1279578431.dsl.bell.ca 1251125890 Q * kardan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251126001 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1251126064 M * Evet why there is no any doc about installation centos guest on debian host 1251126151 M * BWare probaly 'cause no one bothered to write it ;) 1251126302 Q * mrfree_ Quit: Leaving 1251127196 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1251127237 Q * scientes Read error: Operation timed out 1251127341 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx 1251127405 M * geb hi 1251127417 M * Evet hi 1251127744 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1251127778 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1251127788 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx 1251128384 J * zogthegreat_ ~bill@bas4-montreal28-1279778840.dsl.bell.ca 1251128424 Q * zogthegreat Read error: Operation timed out 1251128434 Q * tokkee Quit: Sagt mir Bescheid, wenn ihr euch ausgesponnen habt. 1251128480 J * tokkee tokkee@osprey.tokkee.org 1251129650 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1251129757 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1251130213 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B45F1.dip.t-dialin.net 1251130302 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1251131264 M * Evet there isn't centos's debootstrap file? 1251131310 M * Bertl_oO Evet: I doubt anybody has a repository to debootstrap centos :) 1251131476 M * Bertl_oO Evet: did you check the wiki (specifically building guest systems)? 1251131480 M * Bertl_oO http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems#Building_guests_using_the_yum_build_method 1251131735 M * Evet Bertl_oO: good idea :D 1251131823 J * dna ~dna@p54BC9435.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1251132300 M * thermoman Bertl_oO: remember the "ps aux" / forest issue on debian lenny? 1251132320 M * thermoman Bertl_oO: only happens with init style plain 1251132333 M * thermoman sysvc = works like a charm, no problems 1251132366 M * Bertl_oO try with a recent mainline kernel, if you see the very same problems, we'll investigate 1251132384 M * Bertl_oO (make sure to use recent util-vserver as well) 1251132732 M * Bertl_oO nap attack ... bbl 1251132737 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1251133172 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251133570 M * Evet yum doesnt work 1251133576 M * Evet its really pain in the ass 1251134179 J * doener_ ~doener@ip170-6.vpn.uni-bielefeld.de 1251134282 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251135262 Q * gnuk Quit: NoFeature 1251135651 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1251137058 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1251137066 Q * JonB 1251138029 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@c-98-246-156-85.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1251138993 Q * Wonka Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251139751 Q * geb Quit: / 1251141075 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251141142 Q * dogol Remote host closed the connection 1251141283 Q * ghislainocfs2 Quit: Leaving. 1251141304 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1251141309 M * Bertl back now ... 1251141316 M * Bertl Evet: what doesn't work? 1251142048 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251142393 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1251142445 J * Piet ~piet@659AAB1CV.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1251143266 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-109-163.customers.d1-online.com 1251143721 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection timed out 1251145519 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251145784 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1251146410 N * morrigan_ morrigan 1251146986 Q * Evet Quit: Lost terminal 1251148949 Q * imcsk8 Remote host closed the connection 1251150139 Q * zogthegreat_ Remote host closed the connection 1251150145 J * ViRUS_ ~mp@p579B585D.dip.t-dialin.net 1251150380 Q * nenolod Quit: Leaving 1251150398 J * nenolod ~nenolod@petrie.dereferenced.org 1251150572 Q * ViRUS Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251151766 M * Wonka had a funny thing today... vserver host crashed because of broken iscsi. 1251151777 M * Wonka did fsck on /var/lib/vservers filesystem, some errors repaired... but then, one guest did not come back up. 1251151789 M * Wonka behaved like it's normal /sbin/init was started with PID != 1 in spite of vattribute's --flag fakeinit... 1251151843 M * Bertl 1251151921 M * Wonka after "echo sysv > /etc/vservers//apps/init/style" it came up. 1251151926 M * Wonka was "plain" before 1251151935 M * Wonka any ideas? 1251151969 M * Bertl well, strcitly speaking the 'fakeinit' flag does not exist anymore 1251151997 M * Wonka mhmh 1251152001 M * Bertl we have a flag which gives you a fake blendthrough init (which is used in sysv style) 1251152026 M * Bertl and we have a state, which allows you to designate a process as init (becoming pid==1) 1251152061 M * Wonka and why did just that one vserver fail and no other? 1251152072 M * Wonka they're all mostly the same... 1251152097 M * Bertl no idea, could be that the guest's config or init process was messed up 1251152134 M * Wonka i compared the config with a working one - only some caps were different 1251152159 M * Wonka i tried "vserver start --rescue /bin/sh" and typed "echo $$" - that produced some PID in the 22xxx area 1251152187 M * Bertl what about running the vserver x start with --debug? 1251152240 M * Wonka muuuuch text. somewhere a looong commandline with vcontext, vspace, vattribute and many others, ending in /sbin/init 1251152253 M * Wonka and /sbin/init told me how it liked to be called 1251152274 M * Bertl could you upload that output somewhere? 1251152286 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@f054222045.adsl.alicedsl.de 1251152297 M * Wonka not at the moment - i'm IRCing out of the culprit 1251152299 M * Bertl also, what kernel/patch and util-vserver version? 1251152315 M * Wonka 2.6.22.9-vs2.3.0.26.4 1251152327 M * Wonka current debian testing 1251152358 M * Wonka (yeah, decades old, but it worked before...) 1251152396 M * Wonka util-vserver 0.30.216~r2842-2 1251152445 M * Wonka in about 20h, I could possibly be able to look into it 1251152468 M * Wonka but now i have to go to bed, need to rise in about 5:40 :/ 1251152469 M * Bertl well, if it is reproduceable, it's unlikely to be a kernel issue, I'd opt for a configuration change/fs anomaly 1251152510 M * Wonka yeah, fs anomaly is plausible after that crash and fsck fixing things, but I don't know what... 1251152554 M * Wonka config was not damaged, that's on the vserver host itself on raid1, and that fs was untouched. 1251152569 M * Bertl well, if you can provide the startup output, we'll be able to look into it 1251152579 M * Bertl (the debug one mentioned before) 1251152584 M * Wonka yep 1251152590 M * Wonka tomorrow... 1251152593 M * Bertl np 1251152597 M * Wonka have a good night :) 1251152607 J * zogthegreat ~bill@bas4-montreal28-1279778840.dsl.bell.ca 1251152633 M * Wonka by the way, before i forget again... any chance on running vservers with 2.6.30? 1251152650 M * Bertl sure, patches are available for some time now 1251152694 M * Wonka mh... experimental... 1251152715 M * Wonka when will all that have been merged into vanilla? ;) 1251152728 M * Bertl probably in a few years :) 1251152754 M * Wonka hrmf:/ 1251152760 M * Wonka anyway. gotta go. 1251152787 M * daniel_hozac i doubt it ever will. 1251154954 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1251155116 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-76-105-242-186.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1251155155 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1251155497 J * doener ~doener@i59F55681.versanet.de 1251155602 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251156050 Q * geb Quit: / 1251156680 Q * opuk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1251156904 J * opuk ~kupo@pipe.intertubez.net 1251157843 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.202.224