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(Thomas Edison) 1250732418 Q * hijacker_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250733787 Q * mib_gpvoin Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client 1250735520 J * Elton05605 ~Delphi@189.82.255.16 1250735535 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-255-1.netcologne.de 1250735953 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250743522 Q * pmenier_off Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250743545 J * pmenier_off ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-8-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1250743589 J * doener_ ~doener@i59F57AFB.versanet.de 1250743692 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250744471 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.172.41.50 1250745944 J * Evet_ ~root@88.230.104.47 1250746056 Q * Evet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250746356 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-49-95.oke2-bras6.adsl.tele2.no 1250746418 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180195006.adsl.alicedsl.de 1250747134 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.66.197 1250747219 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250747634 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250748254 J * FireEgl FireEgl@173-16-9-10.client.mchsi.com 1250749234 J * mxs_ mxs@p4FCCAB24.dip.t-dialin.net 1250749263 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250749533 Q * mxs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250750228 Q * geb Quit: / 1250751515 J * scientes__ ~scientes@174-21-111-124.tukw.qwest.net 1250752277 J * BWare ~itsme@ip-80-113-1-198.ip.prioritytelecom.net 1250752465 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1250752559 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1250752577 J * sharkjaw ~gab@149-49-95.oke2-bras6.adsl.tele2.no 1250755101 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@139.12.1.252 1250756246 M * MooingLemur mornin 1250756870 M * nkukard daniel_hozac, sorry to bother, can util-vserver-0.30.215 be used with the experimental patch for 2.9.29.6? 1250757941 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1250758265 M * derjohn_mob nkukard, yes, i do so. (with 2.6.29.4). Did you compile yourself? Check kernel options for vserver, there is legacy api IIRC, which need to be on. 1250758404 M * nkukard darn 1250758410 M * nkukard thanks derjohn 1250758949 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1250759066 Q * nkukard Quit: Leaving 1250761531 Q * bzed Quit: leaving 1250761543 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1250764080 J * xdr ~xdr@h-239-29.A219.priv.bahnhof.se 1250764081 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1250764134 N * Evet_ Evet 1250767530 J * vServer_User ~vServer_U@host90-152-0-28.ipv4.regusnet.com 1250768464 M * daniel_hozac no, you want 0.30.216 for recent patches. otherwise things will not work as they should. 1250768908 Q * uva Read error: Connection reset by peer 1250772138 M * derjohn_mob daniel_hozac, really? I use devel2.3.0.36.14 with debians util-vserver, which is a 215 ... 1250772470 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1250774120 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1250774125 M * maharaja derjohn_mob: maybe you do not need any features that are broken with 215 ? :) 1250774125 M * Bertl morning folks! 1250774161 M * derjohn_mob maharaja, unlikely but possible ;) ! 1250774161 M * maharaja "broken" as in "not implemented in regards to the recent patches" 1250774161 M * Bertl derjohn_mob: and, are you happy that you can change the host's hostname from inside the guest? 1250774192 M * maharaja derjohn_mob: i for example had an issue with bind-mounting stuff and using vnamespaces when using older utils - afairc 1250774229 M * maharaja Bertl: how to do that :D 1250774360 M * Bertl a simple 'hostname foo' should be enough 1250774364 M * derjohn_mob Bertl, sounds more like a bug than a feature :) But currently users could do that with wunderbar_emporium, too, as i have heared. time to upgrade .... but I wonder if debian lenny's utils might have fixed the hostname-bug ? 1250774426 M * Bertl the 'hostname-bug' is just a side-effect of older util-vserver not setting up namespace isolation properly 1250774448 M * Bertl and yes, it is fixed by 'updating' to a recent util-vserver :) 1250774498 M * derjohn_mob hm, the lenny utils with 2.3.0.36.14 dont show that effect 1250774515 M * Bertl the beforementioned exploit will not work on a reasonably configured system, and IMHO it doesn't work inside a guest ... 1250774517 M * derjohn_mob and lenny claims to have 0.30.215 1250774530 M * daniel_hozac lenny doesn't have 0.30.215. 1250774581 M * derjohn_mob Bertl, I dint try the wonderbra exploit,,but yesterday we had a reporter here who claimed, it works within a guest (the kernel autoloaded ppppo or such) 1250774614 M * derjohn_mob daniel_hozac, sry - squeeze, not lenny (i have to upgrade my brain, too) 1250774622 M * derjohn_mob *pppoe 1250774642 M * Bertl well, nice, but module loading from inside a guest is blocked 1250774675 M * daniel_hozac derjohn_mob: squeeze much less so. squeeze has a recent util-vserver version. 1250774714 M * derjohn_mob I didnt reproduce it inside a guest, I just tell that s.o. reported it. 1250774736 M * derjohn_mob # vserver --version 1250774736 M * derjohn_mob vserver 0.30.215 -- manages the state of vservers 1250774775 M * derjohn_mob util-vserver 0.30.216~r2842- 1250774808 M * derjohn_mob ahhh, daniel_hozac the version string in the "vserver" cmdline tool tells wrong facts! 1250774816 M * Bertl yeah folks report a lot of things ... but feel free to prove me wrong and recreate the exploit on a recent mainline kernel + util-vserver patch, managed with recent util-vserver and a sane default config (i.e. without dubious protocols compiled into the kernel etc) 1250774845 M * Bertl derjohn_mob: you probably just have two different util-vserver versions installed 1250774888 M * derjohn_mob /usr/sbin/vserver --version --> This program is part of util-vserver 0.30.215 1250774908 M * derjohn_mob I doubt I have two version on the notebook. let me check on the servers 1250774930 M * daniel_hozac might want to ask micah to use an official snapshot, since they have the right version number... 1250775024 M * derjohn_mob on lenny it reports correctly. before asking micah let me find another squeezy machjne 1250775040 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: not sure, but I think he does, at least for the recent snapshots 1250775166 M * derjohn_mob I just debootstrap a fresh squeeze to check ... 1250776035 M * derjohn_mob micah, on a freshly installed squeezy # vserver --version reports "..util-vserver 0.30.215". 1250776076 M * derjohn_mob micah, but dpkg reports 0.30.216~r2842-2 for the package.... 1250776195 M * micah derjohn_mob: you do not have the squeeze version installed 1250776318 M * derjohn_mob havn't ? I just debootstrapped a fresh squeeze and installed util vserver into it, just to check. arch is amd64, if that matters. on lenny it is ok. I got the package from deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian squeeze main. 1250776384 J * ghislainocfs21 ~Ghislain@LPuteaux-151-41-11-129.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr 1250776448 M * derjohn_mob or does util-vserver get it's --version from the host instead of the guest? 1250776650 Q * ghislainocfs2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250776777 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@189.155.66.197 1250776802 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1250777254 M * Bertl derjohn_mob: check that your guest's 'sources' are setup properly 1250777339 M * derjohn_mob I did post the soures line above. That was the only one and it was created by debootstrap itself. 1250777396 M * Bertl okay, was just an idea, because I remember that at some point, the host sources were copied into the guest 1250777432 J * ktwilight ~keliew@74.78-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1250777470 M * derjohn_mob was that done from debootstrap or or util-vserver ? 1250777482 M * Bertl no idea 1250777562 M * daniel_hozac util-vserver never did anything like that. 1250777586 Q * Elton05605 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1250777633 Q * imcsk8 Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1250777844 Q * gnuk Remote host closed the connection 1250778041 M * derjohn_mob micah, the 'configure' might be the cause 1250778044 M * derjohn_mob util-vserver-0.30.216~r2842# grep PACKAGE_VERSION configure 1250778044 M * derjohn_mob PACKAGE_VERSION='0.30.215' 1250778123 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1250778171 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1250778383 Q * gnuk Remote host closed the connection 1250778522 J * gnuk ~F404ror@pla93-3-82-240-11-251.fbx.proxad.net 1250779210 Q * balbir_ Remote host closed the connection 1250779307 M * micah derjohn_mob: ah! how did you get the version? --version? 1250779343 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250779410 M * tudenbart http://tar.gzipped.org/heiss.jpg :] 1250779410 M * derjohn_mob well, I observed it by "vserver --version". I d/l the package sources with apt-get source util-vserver from a squeeze repo, then I found the "215" in the configure script.. 1250779464 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-250-104.netcologne.de 1250779892 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250781478 Q * xdr Remote host closed the connection 1250781649 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1250781806 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1250781825 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1250782055 Q * geb Quit: / 1250782119 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1250782278 N * pmenier_off pmenier 1250782485 Q * scientes__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250782573 M * derjohn_mob micah, should I file a bug @ debian ? 1250783038 M * vServer_User mr bertl - you cabout 1250783398 M * maharaja derjohn_mob: filing bugreports is fun 1250783414 M * maharaja i today filed 2 for debian and 4 for pacemaker :) 1250783469 M * derjohn_mob maharaja, it's more fun to get them resolved. I stopped to use ubuntu 1-2 years ago and from time to time by bugs get reopened or even resolved :) 1250783476 M * derjohn_mob pacemaker ? 1250783536 M * maharaja www.clusterlabs.org 1250783545 M * maharaja basically the sucessor to linux-ha/heartbeat 1250783792 Q * BWare Quit: *p00f* 1250783836 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1250784028 J * Evet_ ~root@88.230.104.47 1250784088 M * derjohn_mob maharaja, oh I wasnt aware that linux-ha is on hold ... (I use keepalived, *thumbs* that developemt wont stall) 1250784130 Q * Evet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250784235 M * sid3windr keepalived is nice 1250784240 M * sid3windr heartbeat was stopped? 1250784241 M * sid3windr damn 1250784245 M * sid3windr stonith was such a great acronym 1250784255 M * maharaja stonith is till there 1250784257 M * sid3windr ;) 1250784261 M * maharaja :) 1250784286 M * maharaja heartbeat will only be maintained to incorporate critical bugfixes 1250784303 M * maharaja further development is done as pacemaker where heartbeat *may* serve as a communication layer 1250784328 M * sid3windr yeah I'm justg reading the site now 1250784330 M * maharaja but openais is prefered since a couple of months and has proved to be faster/more reliable than heartbeat 1250784359 M * derjohn_mob does any of you know WACKAMOLE ? 1250784542 M * Bertl vServer_User: I'm here, yes :) 1250784569 M * maharaja derjohn_mob: not me, sorry 1250785065 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1250785275 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.197.132 1250785350 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1250786003 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250786143 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1250786160 M * nkukard back! 1250786163 M * nkukard damn meetings 1250786181 M * nkukard derjohn, still around bud? 1250786235 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl 1250786239 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1250786352 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1250787289 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fe60:79d4 1250787430 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1250787774 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1250788547 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1250788552 M * Bertl back again ... 1250789122 M * nkukard hi Bertl , quick question can util-vserver-0.30.215 be used with the experimental patch patch-2.6.29.6-vs2.3.0.36.14.diff? 1250789130 M * nkukard i can't find a legacy option in the kernel config 1250789386 M * Bertl it can be used, but it will not work properly 1250789399 Q * ghislainocfs21 Quit: Leaving. 1250789544 M * nkukard you suggest latest prerelease? 1250789715 M * Bertl yep 1250789719 M * Bertl off again .. bbl 1250789724 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1250789810 M * yang derjohn: around ? 1250789831 P * dothebart bye... 1250789920 M * yang or bonbons ? 1250790403 M * bonbons yang: eventually 1250790443 M * yang bonbons: may I ask a couple of questions regarding IPv6 in a query? 1250790469 Q * geb Quit: / 1250790497 M * bonbons yang: ask, whoever knows will answer 1250790527 M * bonbons asking to ask is rather very slow 1250790557 M * yang bonbons: the IPv6 guide, which I can find on the website is here - http://linux-vserver.org/IPv6 , it doesn't contain enough informations to be able to successfully mount addresse on my guest (on host it allready works) 1250790609 M * yang I am wondering if editing "so you just need to put the address in /etc/vservers//interfaces/X/ip and start the guest to get it an IPv6 address. 1250790620 M * yang editing that entry works without guest restart? 1250790679 M * bonbons you have two options, either restart guest after adjusting /interfaces//{ip,prefix,dev} (easier) 1250790698 M * daniel_hozac see http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_assign_a_new_IP_address_to_a_running_guest.3F 1250790723 M * bonbons otherwise setup the ip addresses on the host and then "configure" the guest (daniel_hozac: thanks for the link :)) 1250790856 M * yang for example my address is 2a01:198:200:3a6::2/64 on the host , so I need to add ip addr add 2a01:198:200:3a6::5/64 dev eth0 ? 1250790867 M * yang then use naddress 1250790868 Q * tokkee Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250790900 M * yang Do I need to run any sort of address routing from the host to be able to use adresses on guests? 1250790949 A * nkukard hacks around ionice 1250790974 M * bonbons yang: you can use the address from the guest as soon as naddress did make it visible 1250791022 M * bonbons the only case you might want to do something on the host is if the guest's traffic shall be routed differently than host traffic using the same address 1250791092 M * bonbons (the host must have the address configure for the address to be available to the guest as all what naddress does is tell the kernel that the guest may use a given address once host knows about it (same for IPv4 as for IPv6)) 1250791099 M * yang bonbons: well IPv6 range on my host is not defined within eth0 (which is where the guest interfaces go) its on another interface 1250791182 J * BenG ~bengreen@94-169-110-10.cable.ubr22.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk 1250791186 M * bonbons so you want to have 2a01:198:200:3a6::2/64 on eth0 and 2a01:198:200:3a6::5/64 on eth1? 1250791215 M * yang well no 1250791226 M * yang I have interface called "sixxs" which handles the IPv6 range 1250791229 M * bonbons then the answer is the same as for 1.2.3.4/24 on eth0 and 1.2.3.5/24 on eth1 1250791331 M * bonbons well, forget about vserver and solve the issue with just the host in mind, vserver does not change anything on the routing area, it only restricts the permitted source/local addresses 1250791423 M * bonbons so on vanilla linux if you bind a socket to some local address (e.g. the one you plan for your guest) you will have the same result as for a socket inside of the guest that is not bound 1250791435 M * daniel_hozac yang: so, put the address on sixxs. it's not hard. 1250791498 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1250791518 M * bonbons yang: I don't know how it will work with sixxs if you only have a tunnel without subnet... might be that the other end of the tunnel will not pass anything else than ::2/64 to you 1250791688 M * bonbons especially if you have another system on the network connected to eth0 who would like to use IPv6 you are definitely encouraged to request a subnet from sixxs and configure that on eth0, enable ipv6 forwarding and all will work 1250791756 Q * vServer_User 1250791850 M * bonbons (playing with host-routes will be a pain at best if the aim is to use the tunnel /64 on your lan) 1250791865 A * bonbons out to lunch 1250791973 Q * gnuk Remote host closed the connection 1250792283 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250792466 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1250792473 M * Bertl and back again ... 1250792832 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1250792859 M * nkukard w/b Bertl 1250794336 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1250795564 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@f051174138.adsl.alicedsl.de 1250795581 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1250795660 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1250796883 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1250796943 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1250797760 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1250797765 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1250799780 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1250801604 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx 1250801682 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250802114 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1250802126 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@nat.ti.uach.mx 1250802240 J * geb ~geb@earth.gebura.eu.org 1250802772 J * FireEgl Proteus@Sebastian.Atlantica.CJB.Net 1250803130 J * uva bno@118-160-168-185.dynamic.hinet.net 1250803688 Q * SauLus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1250803726 J * scientes__ ~scientes@174-21-106-167.tukw.qwest.net 1250803891 J * saulus ~saulus@d003101.adsl.hansenet.de 1250805032 J * tokkee tokkee@osprey.tokkee.org 1250805642 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1250805771 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1250809211 Q * mEDI_S Remote host closed the connection 1250809279 J * mEDI_S ~medi@255.255.255.255.li 1250811017 Q * imcsk8 Remote host closed the connection 1250811586 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1250811829 J * Piet ~piet@659AABYFN.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net